Nov. 7, 2025

Radio Host Turned Wellness Fairy Godmother. Here’s the Story!

Radio Host Turned Wellness Fairy Godmother. Here’s the Story!
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Season 1

What if half the “food” in your pantry is actually just keeping you tired and craving more? Let's unpack that.

From leaving pop radio to starting Culture Apothecary, we share the real-life health wake-up that changed everything, plus the easy swaps that make a difference fast: raw milk, sourdough, beef tallow, and salt that actually has minerals in it.

We talk red light, travel hacks, and why not every wellness trend is made for every body. No fluff, just stuff that works.

Hit follow, share this with a friend ready to ditch seed oils, and leave a review with the one swap you’re trying this week.

00:00 - Welcome, Origins, And The Show’s Name

02:10 - Pandemic Wake-Up And Health Red Pill

05:35 - Radio Career, Censorship, And Turning Point

11:50 - Rebranding To Culture Apothecary

15:50 - Podcast Craft: In-Person Vs Zoom, Field Trips

19:30 - Family Loss, Glioblastoma, And Motivation

25:30 - Alternative Cancer Care And Controversies

30:00 - Hydrogen Water, Red Light, And Hyperbaric

36:30 - Raw Milk, Real Bread, And Seed Oils

43:30 - Food Addiction, “Moderation,” And Label Literacy

48:10 - Eating Out Clean: Restaurants And Hacks

52:00 - Electrolytes, Sauna, Cold Plunge, And Hashimoto’s

56:40 - Stem Cells: Risks, Results, And Referrals

01:03:00 - Integrity In Wellness And Personalization

01:07:20 - Radio Love, Threats, And Free Speech

01:13:00 - Late Night, Bill Maher, And Media Trends

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Okay, so welcome to our podcast.

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This is a little bit different today because this podcast is a spin-off of our radio show.

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So I saw you or I met you.

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I can't remember.

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It was um at the RFK thing.

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Like was that a year and ago, two years ago or whatever.

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Where we held held it at the with Callie Means and Charlie at like some little hotel in Scottsdale.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I spoke at that.

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Yes.

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Okay, so I was there and I remember you walked out on stage.

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I think there were, I think I was standing by a booth you had too, maybe.

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Possibly merch and stuff.

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Yeah.

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And so I was like, what's this?

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Because I was just talking to your assistant or your social media person of how to say the name of your podcast because I find it uh it's hard for me to say.

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Yeah, that's okay.

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Sean Hannity skips it.

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Every single time I go on Hannity now, he just goes, Culture.

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How do you say apothe apothecary?

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Apothecary.

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And what's what is that?

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Okay, so before we had pharmacies, right?

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We had apothecaries.

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Oh yes.

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Yeah.

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And so that was like the original place in a community where you would find natural remedies for healing.

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Right.

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And so the idea behind Culture Apothecary, the podcast, which is my show, is that every guest I have on has their own remedy to heal a sick culture.

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And so we're trying to fix our culture because it's so sick in so many ways.

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We're sick physically, we're sick emotionally, and we're sick spiritually.

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Okay.

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Because now I remember, because I think at one point I had thyroid problems and I got the medicine.

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It's um, everyone knows this medicine from there, from from apocalypse, apocalypse now.

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Um what's it called?

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Armor.

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You ever heard of that armor thyroid?

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No, I haven't.

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Well, it's from I think it's it's uh it's one of those things because they didn't want me taking lavaxothyroxin and all the chemicals and stuff, right?

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Yeah, okay.

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So essentially you're you're pretty much also a hardcore health freak.

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Kind of, yeah.

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Um, newly, I mean, I'm not an expert.

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I just completely transformed my life, like, geez, we're probably going on like three years now.

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Did something happen?

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The pandemic.

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Oh, that's what happened.

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Yeah, it just totally like brainwashed.

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Well, no, I was undoing brainwashing.

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I was brainwashed.

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The pandemic opened my eyes to how brainwashed I was.

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Brainwashed like how?

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Just believing that there was nothing to question in food in our food, uh, you know, in America, that pharmaceutical companies wanted what was best for us, that the health insurance companies wanted us to be healthy.

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Uh, just basically everything that I'd learned about health and nutrition growing up was a lie.

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And I didn't fully understand that until they started mandating the vaccine.

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And then I was like, well, that's weird to me to tell people you have to take any medical product that you're required in order to participate in society, basically.

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And I was super disturbed by that.

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And so that's like what kind of started me down the rabbit hole.

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Is that how you started your podcast?

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No.

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So I had I had come to Turning Point USA with this idea to do a pop culture show in 2019.

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So my background is in morning radio.

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I was doing top 40 CHR for almost a decade.

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I started when I was 18 years old, dropped out of college.

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Yeah.

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Me too.

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Really?

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Okay.

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So yeah, my background is in radio and I loved it, but I was always open about my conservative beliefs.

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And so no, it never mattered until Trump became president.

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When Trump became president, I was working for uh Radio One, and that's you know, a very urban radio company.

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And I was like the only one of the only white employees they had, basically, which was which was kind of interesting.

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And I was also one of the only conservatives.

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And so when I obviously in pop radio, you're not talking politics all the time, but occasionally something would come up.

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I would say something.

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And so I would get in trouble.

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I was starting to get in trouble all the time.

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When once Trump was president, they're like, This is too polarizing, you can't say it.

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And I'm like, what are you talking about?

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My, you know, the social media girl, the producer on the show is going off about toxic masculinity and all this.

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Like, I can't say that I disagree.

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And they're like, no.

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And I was like, well, that's BS.

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Um, they wanted me to host all of these events that I disagreed with, like um, you know, the women's march and all this.

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And I said, This is, you don't want me to be political.

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This is a totally partisan event.

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And they were like, Well, that's not true.

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This is about human rights.

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And I was like, Bet, let's pull up the websites like gun control, abortion, open borders, all this.

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I was like, this is totally a partisan event.

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I'm not, I'm not hosting this.

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It goes against my beliefs.

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So I was always in trouble, and it was like, oh, what's Alex gonna say now?

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And I was just always like going toe to toe.

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And I knew this is right before cancel culture became a term.

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I knew I was gonna be fired for my beliefs, and I really wanted to grow.

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Like my dream was I wanted to go to Kate Craddock, I wanted to do the Burt show.

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Like, this is where I wanted to end up.

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I know.

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And those are my friends.

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I know.

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And so like I had literally I had done everything.

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Like, I I was doing everything I could to grow in market size because I was in, I'd started in Louisville, Kentucky, worked up to Indianapolis.

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I took that show, we took that show from like 16th place to first in in six months.

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What show was it?

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It was so now that they've changed the format, but it was WNOW 100.9 in Indianapolis.

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It's their it was their competitor.

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So we were the first person to finally beat Smiley after like 20 years.

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Yeah.

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So I knew I had to leave, and I only knew radio.

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So I thought it was going to be talk radio, like conservative talk radio.

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And I was, I was had this idea for a pop culture show from a conservative perspective that I would do on air.

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And everybody was like, no one's gonna listen to this.

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Like the audience is very old, male.

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There's not an audience for this, um, for what you're trying to do.

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And so I was just really praying about it, trying to figure out that transition.

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And Turning Point USA reached out to me, which is Charlie Kirk's organization, and they were like, Hey, we love that you're openly conservative, that you're young, that you work in media, we'd love to work together.

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And I was like, perfect.

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This is a sign.

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So I pitched this whole idea for this short format social media show that was pop culture from a conservative perspective.

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I said, My whole background is in pop radio, I do entertainment news for a living, let me do this.

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I want to target young women and kind of introduce them to conservative values in a really like non-threatening way, which was, you know, let's talk about Kylie Jenner and her thoughts on BLM, and then I'll just red pill you.

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That was kind of my idea.

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And so um, they said yes, started doing that show, and then during the pandemic, I think 2021, they said, let's do a long-form podcast, like your backgrounds in radio, this would be better suited for you.

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We you can keep the pop culture show, but let's also start doing interviews.

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So I started a podcast, and then while I was doing that, I started to get red pilled on food and pharma, and I started purposefully picking guests that were experts in this subject.

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And so I'm like, my mind is being blown, learning everything I'm learning, and I'm sharing it with my audience.

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Their mind is being blown, my numbers explode, my analytics are unbelievable.

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I'm like, okay, every time I talk about health and wellness, these women are like eating it up, pun intended.

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And so I said, we have to keep doing this.

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And by 2024, so I'd done that for three years, and I just saw, I saw the trajectory, and I said, this is going to be the biggest driver of women into the conservative movement, is the topic of health and wellness.

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If we start saying that we are the party that agrees with these values, we're going to gain women voters.

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And so 2024, right before the election, I said it's imperative I have to rebrand my show.

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And so Turning Point let me rebrand to calling it culture apothecary, that it was explicitly focused on health and wellness.

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And literally two weeks before I rebranded, RFK comes out and endorses Trump.

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And I was like, I freaking told you.

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So then everyone was talking about health and wellness, conservatism, like who's doing that?

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And it was Alex Clark.

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And then I happened to have the show that was covering this from a conservative perspective.

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And so the show blew up, and and that basically changed my life.

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And um, I had the opportunity to testify at the Senate like a couple weeks after that, and that also blew the show up.

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So overnight the numbers just went crazy.

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And Charlie was like, You need to run these again.

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There's no way this is correct.

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And we were like, we've ran them seven times, and he couldn't believe them either.

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Wow.

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Um, is it weird though?

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Because when you do a radio show, you have instant interaction with your audience, like phones are ringing, but you so you're taping a podcast, right?

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Yes.

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So how do you get the feedback?

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Comments just or there's no call-in, right?

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Right.

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There's no call-in on my show.

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It's not, it's not a daily news show or anything like that.

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So I mean, we could tape with an interviewer and it doesn't come out for two months, you know.

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So it it is totally different than radio.

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I had to relearn a lot of things from radio.

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Did you have a consultant, some sort of podcast consultant, or you just do it all yourself?

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No, no, no.

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Turning point's a nonprofit.

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And especially back in 2019, I was given one camera girl and said, figure it out.

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Like we had no idea what we were doing.

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Turning Point had never done shows before.

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So Charlie really believed in me and was like, I think you can do it.

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But it was like, you're on your own, figure it out, you know?

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And nobody had done a daily Instagram show, which is what I had created with Popolitics, the pop culture show.

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Nobody had done that yet.

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Um, and so we tried that out.

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And it was also the first up and down video format show.

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So, you know, it was it was uh it was formatted in such a weird way.

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It wasn't like side to side like YouTube.

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Um, and so we were just figuring all that out before Instagram reels existed, before TikTok, all of it.

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Okay, so now like I was actually watching some of your podcasts the other day.

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In fact, I was so excited to see the the guy that you were bummed about that you had to zoom with, the uh mental therapist guy.

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I see him all Dr.

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Amon.

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I see that dude everywhere when I saw that you had him on.

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I was so excited.

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And then I was kind of like though, you were like, look, I don't want to zoom, but this guy's kind of a big deal.

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Yeah.

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Right?

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Yeah, I never zoom.

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I know.

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I I we have all my uh my guests either come in person to Phoenix or I'll fly to them.

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Um, and so it's it's just it's totally different being able to be in person.

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So who who have you flown out to to do interviews with?

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Oh, just different like farmers or things like that where it makes sense um that I'm gonna be, you know, on a cool location and get to experience.

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Well, like the the Redmond Sand thing.

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Yeah, like going to the Redmans uh salt farm in Utah uh this upcoming week.

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I'm going to Hawaii to do a podcast swap with Bethany Hamilton, the girl who got her arm bit off by a shark.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So like that makes sense to go to her.

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What island is that Oahu?

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Kawaii.

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Oh, Kawaii?

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Oh wow.

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My son lives there.

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Oh, really?

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Okay, and she's taking me surfing, and I'm terrified.

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I've never surfed, and I'm not athletic at all, so that seems really scary to me.

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And so yeah, she's taking me out there.

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So we're gonna do like a little YouTube vlog as well as um do the pod swap.

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So sometimes it makes sense for social media content to go.

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And she's like a big motivational speaker, too, I think.

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Yeah, she does that, and she's also conservative, and she is she's been very outspoken about men in women's sports, specifically women surfing.

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Right.

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Oh, really?

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I didn't know that.

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Yep.

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So when you said you started with one camera, what do you have now?

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One camera, one person.

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Ooh, now we've got, you know, we've got a three-camera setup.

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I've got a core team of five people, um, you know, different editors, videographers, social media girl assistant.

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Wait, is that part of the five people or five people and you have editors?

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Those are the people.

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So with five people, you're able to edit, book guests, social media, do everything with five people.

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Yes, actually, it might be six now.

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I think it's six.

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That's pretty huge.

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Yeah.

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So wait, where are your parents from?

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Where are your parents right now?

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So my mom lives in Indianapolis.

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My dad passed away a year ago in December from glioblastoma, brain cancer, and heart failure.

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He was addicted to ultra-processed food.

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And I believe that led to all of his issues, health issues that he ended up getting.

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He had multiple heart attacks.

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He was very obese my whole my whole life.

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And then once he started getting super sick and having heart attacks, he dropped a ton of weight.

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He, I mean, he was so frail by the time he passed away.

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But we had been told in January 2024 he had the brain tumor, and that he probably had about 18 months to live in each he didn't make it quite a year.

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So that was a a big fueler for continuing the work that I'm doing and kind of waking up the American people to to the state that we're in with the chronic disease epidemic.

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You know, my mother died with jubilosoma as well.

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Really?

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GBM 4.

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They told her that she had like six months.

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We were able to get her to go 18 months, but it was terrible.

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It's it's such a terrible disease.

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Can I ask you something?

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Sure.

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Did your mom end up having phantom smells at all towards the end?

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Boy, that is a good question.

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I kind of I was talking about this recently on this podcast too, that I had uh, I like blocked all that out.

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It happened and she died in 2011.

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Oh, yeah.

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And it was it was such a like I I was interviewing, I was interviewing a cancer doctor.

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He was sitting right here, and I had two doctors right there that are telling me about this new stuff going on with cancer, which you'll probably love.

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Um, and this doctor right here, he says to me, he goes, You probably don't remember this, but I treated your mom.

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What I was like, what you had no idea?

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And he came on your podcast?

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Yeah, he told me in the middle of the podcast, remember that?

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And I was like, What?

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Because I mean, we were going to um Barrows and we were doing all that stuff there, and then we we were obviously trying the natural, he was a naturopath, and we were going doing that stuff.

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So when we tried the naturopath route, uh, this guy, Dr.

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Ruben, and then he had to remind me.

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And I was like one of those guys, like, oh my god, that's right.

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I remember that.

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Oh my god, oh my god.

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But I don't remember if the smells, but she went through all, it was just terrible.

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It was so my father died of a heart attack, right?

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66 years old, in great shape, just died.

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Wow.

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And my sister and I, we were like, God, that's so terrible.

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Well, is it better to die like that or is it better to have a long death?

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And then two months later, my mom gets a GBM and we go through the 18-month ordeal, which was terrible.

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So you you probably know what I'm talking about.

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Yep.

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It was the worst.

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And now I see, you know, I'm kind of like you where I'm I'm very much into health and fitness and trying to be as healthy as I can, and stuff pops up all the time.

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Now it's like, you can cure GBM with nicotine.

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Oh, yeah, there's a lot of studies on that coming out, which is really interesting.

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Like, really?

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Yeah, it was um that I haven't shared this.

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That was one of the worst, the worst things that happened the last time that I saw my dad was he was unable to sleep.

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He was in the hospital because there was stuff going on with his heart.

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So what ended up actually killing him was his heart stopped.

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He needed a heart transplant after all these heart attacks, but they wouldn't give him one because he had the brain cancer cancer.

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Yeah.

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And so what ended up happening was in his sleep, he died just from his heart stopping.

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And I'm so thankful that it was just when he was asleep.

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Yeah.

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But leading up to that, he had been in the hospital and they'd put him back in there again.

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And um, while he was there, he was like in tears, just insisting, he was like, Do you guys smell that?

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Like it smells like death in here.

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It's so it smells like like rot and flowers.

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It's a mixture of that, and um, no one could smell anything.

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And he was like, It's in my sheets, it's in my pillowcase.

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And I was like, Dad, I believe you.

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I believe you that you smell it, but we can't smell it.

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And I said, I think it has to do with the brain tumor.

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And um sure it does.

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Yeah, so something weird was going on with that.

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Either that or I was like, geez, I mean, this is so morbid.

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But after he passed away, because he passed away like two weeks after that, and I just thought, man, is there something that happens when you're dying where you start to smell your own body dying?

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I don't know, that's super dark.

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But it it's just like those weird things that happen.

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And I guess with glioblastoma patients, that's something that some of them talk about is phantom smells that are extremely excruciatingly painful and and horrific to deal with.

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It's like a terrible side effect of the cancer.

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So he was six months after being diagnosed, but he died of a heart attack.

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Well, he was diagnosed in January and died in December.

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Oh so almost a year, so eleven months.

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Brutal.

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Yeah.

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So these doctors I had, maybe you want to interview them somebody.

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I know, seriously.

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So these doctors that were here, there were three of them, and they have a clinic in Cancun called Immunoscene.

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And I'm gonna use words I'm not allowed to use because you know the doctors get sued, but I'm not a doctor.

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Like they literally cure cancer.

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Like it's I thought I was expecting them to be knocked off pretty soon, right?

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So they go in, it's very expensive, but they go in and they that you go to Cancun to this clinic for six weeks, and they take, they go into the tumor and they make a vaccine from your own tumor specifically for you.

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And it's got like a 75% cure rate.

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It's unbelievable.

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I saw them, okay.

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I don't know if you're into stem cells, but just real quick, yeah.

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I love stem cells.

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I go to Mexico and get stem cells, and I was at a stem cell clinic opening in Cancun, and Gary Breca was there speaking.

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They asked me to MC.

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I was MCing it, and Gary Breca was a speaker, and so were these guys.

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So just so you'll know it's along the lines of that type.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So it's it's legit then.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I trust anything Gary trusts.

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I oh good good.

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Oh, that brings me to the hydrogen water.

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I'm gonna by the way, I'm all over the place, by the way, with this podcast.

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That's fun.

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I love it.

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Okay, good.

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I can keep up.

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Okay, good.

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So it brings me to hydrogen water.

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Have you followed the hydrogen water stuff?

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So a little bit.

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I just started to learn about it because of Gary, and I want to, so I haven't interviewed him yet.

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It's just been really hard with our schedules, but it's on my radar, and his radar, we're trying to make it happen, hopefully, before the end of the year.

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But I want to ask him about it and I want to try his stuff.

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Okay, so he was pushing for once for a while these bottles, these echo bottles, right?

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They were like 400 bucks.

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I bought one and I was doing it every morning.

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I had part of my routine, but it broke, and I was so pissed that it broke.

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And then I emailed them and they didn't get back to me.

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Now I I've heard that they're gonna get back to me.

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So then I don't see him promote those anymore.

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He started promoting these pills that you, these little tablets you drop in the water, and it turns into hydrogen water.

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And I got those pills too.

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But it just, I'm on the move.

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I don't have time to wait for the pill to dissolve.

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Totally, yeah.

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Then I come across something that you cannot get here in the United States, okay?

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But it is your lucky day because I it's right here.

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It's hydrogen water in a can.

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It's right there.

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What?

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Yes.

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Can I open this and drive?

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Well, you can open it.

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It tastes just like water, you can't tell.

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But it's supposed to be really, really it's it's legit.

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I drink one of these every day.

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I found them.

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I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

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I found them in Australia.

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And I'm trying to get them here.

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It tastes like water, yeah.

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I talked to somebody, uh, a buddy of mine that, you, in fact, you know the guy.

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Have you been to Postinos and all that?

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Of course, yeah.

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Postino and LGO Le Grande Orange.

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My friend Craig, who I had on the podcast, he's like, I'm gonna get these in my stores.

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And then he goes, I know the guy at Sprouts, I'm gonna get him in Sprouts.

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And I pitched him to one-stop nutrition to get him in because I want to be able to.

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It's it's hydrogen water and it's just such a nice can.

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Yeah, this is really nice.

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Okay.

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Cool.

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I love this.

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Because now you just crack it open and go.

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I don't have to wait 20 minutes.

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I kind of want Gary Brecker, but Gary Brecker probably come up with his own.

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I know, right?

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Yeah, he probably will.

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Now, this is good stuff.

00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:32.880
Okay, so do you do all the red light stuff?

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Yes, I have a red light therapy device at home and I do it 10 minutes every morning, 10 minutes at night.

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It is probably my number one most recommended.

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Like, look, these little devices and extra things are not required to live a healthy life, right?

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But they are fun extras if you want to spend the money and you have fun money to spend.

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Right.

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And look, we all have fun money to spend in some capacity.

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It's your it's up to your prerogative, you know, and your priorities on what that's on.

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It could be going to the movies, it could be amusement parks, it could be clothes.

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For me, it's health and wellness stuff.

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I enjoy that.

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So I have this device and it is just a game changer for sleep, for skin, um, hair growth.

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If you're a guy especially struggling with hair loss, oh my gosh, red light therapy is like my number one recommendation.

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I have the red light cap that I wear as much as I can.

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I do red light every day for 20 minutes every day.

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I have a place.

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In fact, when I started this podcast, I started with my doctor.

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I was calling it called the Doctor and the DJ.

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Um, and she's amazing.

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You would love her.

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She has do you do a hyperbaric?

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I have before, but I don't do it regularly.

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But have you done real hyperbaric?

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I don't know.

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Have I?

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Have you what do you do the kind where you zip?

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What kind of what kind of hyperbaric have you done?

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I'm just in there.

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But like where?

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Like what do you go to a place in Scottsdale?

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Yeah, it's like a what like a wellness center that has all those things.

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Like you can go, you can sauna, you can do a red light, you do the hyperbaric chamber.

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Yeah, that's not a hyperbaric.

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Where do you go?

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Okay.

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I'm gonna change your life today, Alex Clark, when I tell you about the place I go to.

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Okay.

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In fact, you know what's funny is I tried to get Charlie and Erica to go there, and there was a place that Charlie was going to.

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Are you in North Scottsdale?

00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:06.799
Yeah.

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Okay, it's there's a place up there.

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I don't know the name of it, I don't know if it's still there, but the place I went to.

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No, I think I know where he was going.

00:20:12.799 --> 00:20:16.799
Well, so you have to have a doctor there, and they put you in a chamber and like they lock you in.

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Oh.

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And it's like a giant glass tube.

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And then you go in there for 90 minutes and they take you under, and it's crazy.

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And it pumps your whole body for the lock.

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You don't need a tube.

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You don't need I don't even have to.

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Okay, okay.

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It's it's it's next level.

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Um, and it's off of Lincoln and Scotts Roads called Benissaire.

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So I go there, my doctor's there, she owns the place, and I will go in there and I'll my trainer's there.

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I work out there, and then after my workout, I do a 20-minute red light bed.

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They have the whole bed, like at you know, the kind where you lay down and close it.

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Oh yes.

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I need, okay, what is it called?

00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:48.240
Benissaire.

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Write that down, Ashley.

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Benissaire.

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And then uh, and then on there's and they have physical therapy there, they have uh the vitamin drips and stuff, but I don't do that there.

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And then when I have time, I'll sit in the red, I'll sit in the oxy the hyperbaric oxygen for 20 minutes because that's supposed to heal your body like crazy.

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Oh yeah.

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It's a gauge.

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Well, and Charlie really struggled with severe back pain.

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That was something that was he had to have special chairs at work to sit in and and all that to podcast in.

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That was a huge thing, was back pain for him, because he used to be like an avid runner and he had to stop running.

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I and then he just started being obsessed with taking walks, but it's just his back was hurting him so bad.

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So he started to really get into all the like crunchy health and wellness stuff.

00:21:28.480 --> 00:21:34.240
Although he was very adamant, he thought my raw milk stuff was garbage and he was not on the raw milk train.

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That was one of the first things I saw you talk about when I first met you or saw you at the RFK thing was this raw milk thing.

00:21:39.839 --> 00:21:40.000
Yeah.

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And I'm still trying to figure that out.

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My son, who's in Hawaii, swears by it.

00:21:44.400 --> 00:21:44.799
Oh, yeah.

00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:46.160
Does the raw milk, does the raw chicken?

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This is how our ancestors ate and drank, right?

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It was just it's just ancestral diet.

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Like, let's just get back to basics.

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Let's have real meat, raw food, no pesticides, you know, GMOs.

00:21:57.359 --> 00:22:00.400
I mean, that's just the that's how we were designed to eat as human beings.

00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:01.839
So, where do you get your raw milk?

00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:03.839
You can get it at Sprouts here in the Valley.

00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:04.799
Yeah.

00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:09.839
Um, they deliver it and then it it gets sold out pretty quick, but I think they deliver on Friday mornings.

00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:15.680
I found a farm in um Gilbert that will deliver raw milk right to your house.

00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:16.720
Oh, well, that's even better, yeah.

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Raw milk.

00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:20.799
And they also do um the sourdough tortillas, sourdough bread.

00:22:20.960 --> 00:22:21.759
That's pretty crazy.

00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:23.839
Yeah, I got I got way into it for a long time.

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But then I kept thinking, I keep hearing bread is the enemy.

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You don't want to eat bread.

00:22:27.759 --> 00:22:28.960
So kind of true.

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Kind of true, kind of false.

00:22:31.279 --> 00:22:37.839
The differentiating factor there is you want to avoid bread if it is conventional flour.

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What we're doing to flour in America, like all the flour that you can buy at the grocery store is trash.

00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:45.359
I would stop buying it, even the organic ones.

00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:51.279
What you really want to do is get a flour mill and you want to get wheat berries and you want to grind them.

00:22:51.359 --> 00:22:54.240
This sounds so complicated and like it's gonna take you 40 minutes.

00:22:54.319 --> 00:22:54.720
It doesn't.

00:22:54.799 --> 00:22:55.680
It takes three seconds.

00:22:55.839 --> 00:22:56.880
You make your own bread.

00:22:57.119 --> 00:23:00.079
So I don't yet, but it is on my radar.

00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:03.599
So I had to get through a move and all this, and I had no counter space at my last apartment.

00:23:03.680 --> 00:23:08.079
I was like, I'm getting this new apartment, bigger kitchen, and then I'm gonna like get all I'm gonna get the bread machine, do all this.

00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:17.279
So the problem is my dumbass interviewed the woman who was like the leading person on this, and then sold out all of the flour mills.

00:23:17.839 --> 00:23:20.319
Like it's people have been on back order for months.

00:23:20.559 --> 00:23:21.920
So this is my own fault.

00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:28.720
Um, but anyway, so I interviewed this woman, Sue Becker, who's like a powerhouse genius on all things bread.

00:23:28.880 --> 00:23:31.759
And this episode went so freaking viral.

00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:40.319
And she talks about that, uh just the food, the science behind why we need to be milling our own flour and how we're taking all the nutrients out of flour.

00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:47.680
And so it's not even the gluten that is causing people problems, it's actually just the enriched, you know, bleached flour crap.

00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:54.160
And they're putting a bunch of preservatives and stuff on there so that it's shelf stable and and it's just not how flour was supposed to be.

00:23:54.319 --> 00:24:05.279
So before you make anything, you're making cinnamon rolls, you're making bread, you're making cookies, you just whatever the amount of wheat berries is that you need, you just dump it in there, and then it comes out, and then it's just fresh flour.

00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:07.200
And you do it, you use it right then and there.

00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:14.079
Right, because like the place I was telling you about that delivers the tortillas from sourdough and sourdough bread, you got about two days before it starts turning into mold.

00:24:14.319 --> 00:24:16.400
And that is a good thing.

00:24:16.480 --> 00:24:16.960
Right.

00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:18.960
People have lost their minds.

00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:25.119
They think, like, oh my gosh, I got this uh case of muffins at Costco and I've had it for eight months and it hasn't gone bad.

00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:25.680
Guess what?

00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:26.559
That's not food.

00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:27.279
Right, right.

00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:28.240
That is not food.

00:24:28.319 --> 00:24:30.400
I don't know what you're eating, but it isn't food.

00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:35.839
Your bread, your cookies, your baked goods, whatever you're buying, it should go bad.

00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:38.400
It should grow mold after a short amount of time.

00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:41.519
That's how you know it's living, breathing, real food that is fueling your body.

00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:51.039
If your food does not get moldy and it's been sitting on your counter for months, even years, people, my chiropractor has a case of muffins that he's had since 2018.

00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:52.480
And there's no mold.

00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:56.000
That's how you know you're eating dead food.

00:24:56.079 --> 00:24:57.759
And so you're like, what is that doing to my body?

00:24:57.839 --> 00:25:01.119
And then everybody's like, I'm so sick, I'm so tired all the time.

00:25:01.279 --> 00:25:04.160
I guess this is normal because everyone in America feels this way.

00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:07.279
No, we weren't supposed to feel this way.

00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:14.319
You're supposed to feel great and have high energy and keep up with your kids and your grandkids, and you're not supposed to feel old until you're dead.

00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:16.799
That's when you're supposed to start feeling old.

00:25:16.880 --> 00:25:18.480
You're supposed to enjoy your retirement.

00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:21.279
You're not supposed to be on 12 different medications in your 50s.

00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:21.839
You're not.

00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:24.160
That is an exclusively American way.

00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:25.279
Right, right.

00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:28.000
Uh, your chiropractor here in Arizona?

00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:28.319
Yep.

00:25:28.480 --> 00:25:29.359
Chandler, Dr.

00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:31.519
Mike Pierce, Empower Family Chiropractic.

00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:35.519
And he's so cool because he will You go all the way to Chandler for a chiropractor?

00:25:35.680 --> 00:25:36.240
Because he's that good.

00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:38.640
And yeah, it is like a 45-minute drive, and I'm always late.

00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:40.000
You can ask their staff.

00:25:40.319 --> 00:25:43.279
Um, I and I'm going there actually right after this.

00:25:43.599 --> 00:25:44.559
I love them.

00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:48.480
Um, and it's because he goes so uh far above and beyond just adjustments.

00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:50.480
So yeah, you can go in there and get cracked.

00:25:50.799 --> 00:25:52.480
Chiropractors hate when you say that word, but I love it.

00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:53.599
I'm a crack addict.

00:25:53.759 --> 00:25:57.759
Um, he will take you grocery shopping and stuff and teach you how to grocery shop.

00:25:57.839 --> 00:25:59.599
He will teach you how to read ingredient labels.

00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:07.920
He will they have a whole case in their office of all these empty prescription bottles of people who have been able to change their life holistically in all these ways.

00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:10.400
And they're able to put the empty bottle there and be like, I'm done.

00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:10.720
It's over.

00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:13.440
Yeah, a lot of chiropractors, like I think Gary Brecca was a chiropractor.

00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:13.920
Yeah.

00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:21.599
Well, because they're the ones that are trained in understanding your whole body, how all these systems work together, you know, being more natural.

00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:31.839
And then you had John Rockefeller came came along and he was like, ooh, let's convince Americans that chiropractors and herbalists and naturopaths and all these people are quacks.

00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:36.000
Midwifery is quackery, midwifery is quackery.

00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:41.279
And then we're gonna just tell them that we all need prescription pills because he had all these oil byproducts he needed to put somewhere.

00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:44.720
So this is like a super sick and twisted whole fiasco.

00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:50.079
Do you try things um that are different and new without knowing about it or researching it?

00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:52.240
Or do you like do you have back pain?

00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:53.599
Is that why you see the chiropractor?

00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:58.319
Um, I just will get like super stiff and everything, and I I think it's just good for you.

00:26:58.400 --> 00:27:02.160
And I also think that it it'll help um when things are misaligned.

00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:06.319
So different areas of your spine and your neck connect to different organs in the body.

00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:10.480
So, like, let's say you're constipated, you probably need an adjustment, and then you'll poop like that.

00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:17.920
It's like incredible because um things are off, and then your body isn't able to communicate to those organs for them to work effectively.

00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:22.960
There's a guy I know, so I I'm I'm into I'm into the anything, I'll try anything.

00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:25.119
And there's a guy I met, this is so crazy.

00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:29.920
He's like one of three people trained in the country to do this, and it's like so illegal, I guess.

00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:35.759
But he has a chiropractor, he has a table, and I've done it, and a buddy of mine does it once a week.

00:27:35.839 --> 00:27:36.000
Uh-huh.

00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:41.279
And you lay down on this table and he straps you in and he cranks his table and he massages your back.

00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:43.119
It takes about an hour and a half of the process, right?

00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:45.599
And you got to put a mouthpiece in, and he puts this thing on.

00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:47.359
I got videos I'll show you because I've done it.

00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:58.559
And then you relax, it's like a I don't know what you would call it, but at some point he relaxes your body and pulls the bottom part, and your whole spine goes, Yeah, it's decompressing your spine.

00:27:58.640 --> 00:27:58.960
It's not a fine.

00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:01.839
And it's basically the the biggest adjustment ever at once.

00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:03.759
It's like for a second you think you're gonna die.

00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:04.160
Totally.

00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:04.400
Yeah.

00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:05.279
You think you're gonna die.

00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:12.000
And the guy, he's a real estate agent and his office is in Chandler, and he has it in his back office, and only his friends know about it.

00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:12.640
Oh my gosh.

00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:14.160
I've taken a couple people there.

00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:17.839
It's a little bit, it's a little different, but you know what?

00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:21.680
I think like those are my people when they're like everything I want to do is illegal.

00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:22.720
Yeah, those are my people.

00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:24.480
Wait, so wait, what was to me?

00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:26.559
I'm like you said, you follow me, I'm all over the place.

00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:29.839
Um, so your dad saw some of your success before he passed.

00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:30.400
Yes.

00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:31.680
So he was pretty excited.

00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:39.599
He was so proud of me, and he was uh like the type of person who would every time he'd be out to eat or something, he'd be like, Do you know who my daughter is?

00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:41.599
So that was super nice.

00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:46.400
But I was like, Dad, why don't you start kind of following some of the stuff I talk about?

00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:51.440
And he just was my dad was, and I get this from him, he is so stubborn, was so stubborn.

00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:53.440
And so he just didn't want to change.

00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:59.200
I mean, leaving the hospital after getting his brain tumor removed, he the first places he wanted to go was Pizza Hut and Chick-fil-A.

00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:00.960
And I was like crying, pleading with him.

00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:08.880
I was like, Dad, I will literally make you pizza, I will make you chicken nuggets, but it's just gonna be made without silly putty and crap ingredients.

00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:12.079
And uh it was like, oh no, just you know, just one time.

00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:18.319
And and so I think that is an important point is that most, you know, he's like, it's just this one time or whatever.

00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:20.160
And I'm like, no, it isn't just this one time.

00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:31.519
Most Americans are eating dead fake food the majority of their meals and multiple times a day and multiple times a week.

00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:38.480
Almost 70% of the standard Americans' diet now is ultra-processed food.

00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:40.799
Okay, it's not real whole food.

00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:43.440
And that is what is causing all of these problems.

00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:47.359
And so my dad was in this mindset of everything in moderation.

00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:48.960
You probably hear that a lot.

00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:50.319
I hate that saying.

00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:52.640
That saying is garbage and it's killing people.

00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:59.839
And I think that if you tell your loved one it's okay, everything in moderation when it comes to their food, you it is a death wish.

00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:05.119
For your loved one, because the truth is in America, there is no such thing.

00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:07.200
There's no, you don't want any poison in moderation.

00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:12.160
If I told you, well, your kid can drink bleach, it's okay in moderation, you'd be like, no, that's poison.

00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:25.279
But if I explained to you that uh, you know, monodiglycerides are basically trans fats and and and le you know, contributing to heart disease and heart attacks in your food, and you're eating those, you you know, would you still want to eat those in moderation?

00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:26.400
No, we stay away.

00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:28.559
Well, it's like with plastic in the water now.

00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:28.799
Yeah.

00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:29.440
Right, right.

00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:31.119
Are you do are you uh one of those people?

00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:32.559
Anti-tap water.

00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:37.599
I'm the person at going out to eat to dinner that I'm like, we have to have bottled, bottled still or bottled sparkling.

00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:38.160
I'm not eating that.

00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:40.160
I carry bottled water with me mostly wherever I go.

00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:41.759
Glass, glass bottles, right?

00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:42.319
Yeah, yeah.

00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:42.880
Okay, right.

00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:52.000
Um, so I was gonna tell you with my mom, uh, we when we look back at everything, because we didn't know in 2011 what was going on, but it was with her, Diet Coke and Sweet and Low.

00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:54.000
She always had Sweet and Low with her.

00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:56.640
Like I'm positive that's and see all that aspartame.

00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:57.920
I think that's I know.

00:30:58.000 --> 00:30:58.160
Yeah.

00:30:58.400 --> 00:30:59.519
There's a guy by the name of Dr.

00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:00.240
Ted Brower.

00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:00.880
You ever heard of him?

00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:01.279
No.

00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:06.480
He I saw him speak in 1989 with the first George Bush.

00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:09.599
And he came out and he's this guy's unbelievable.

00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:11.440
This guy is so far ahead of his game.

00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:14.480
If you could ever talk to this guy, he's a hardcore Christian.

00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:18.799
He comes out, he he he gets on stage, he says, He does the 10 foods you should never eat.

00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:26.079
In 1989, he was like shellfish, aspartame, uh, salami.

00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:32.559
He went, I God, I can't remember what else it was, but he had all this 10 things alcohol, smoking, 10 things never to do.

00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:37.920
And over the course of the year, since 1989, I've seen these things come up, and he was the first one to ever talk about it.

00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:43.920
He has a freaking he's a little crazy, but I mean, everywhere I remember I've had him on my show before, and he walks around with a gun all the time.

00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:46.640
Because he lives here?

00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:47.839
No, he lives in Florida.

00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:48.720
Oh, okay, okay.

00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:51.440
I was gonna say, because you know, you can open carry in Arizona.

00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:58.160
Well, the first time I saw him, he's you know, he parks his bus outside, his motor coach outside, then he comes in, sets his gun down, ready to do an interview, and you're like, whoa.

00:31:58.640 --> 00:31:59.279
You know.

00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:04.480
For you being so public and open about stuff, how do you handle threats?

00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:05.599
Because you must get them.

00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:13.039
Yeah, so after Charlie died, I got more death threats than I've ever gotten in my entire what, I don't know, what am I at now?

00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:13.839
15 year career.

00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:14.880
I started my career in 2012.

00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:15.200
I don't know.

00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:15.680
What am I?

00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:17.119
I I'm horrible at math.

00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:20.960
But um, yeah, so I've been working in media for this long.

00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:23.279
I don't I've maybe gotten like one death threat.

00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:32.480
I and then all of a sudden now I'm getting them I have to check daily and then send those all over to the security team and you know, they do with that, whatever they're doing.

00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:34.240
But does it bother you?

00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:36.799
Or I mean, does it like does it change anything?

00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:38.160
Does it make you want to say anything different?

00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:40.000
Like you're gonna stick to your true values, your beliefs.

00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:42.079
No, I'm s I'm saying the same things.

00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:49.039
That is exactly what Charlie taught all of us that have worked with him, you know, and I've worked with him for over six years.

00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:55.599
And um that was my first, obviously, that was my first human instinct when he got shot later that night.

00:32:55.680 --> 00:33:05.359
I was talking to a bunch of other people in the industry, Brett Cooper, Ali Stuckey, like just different conservative commentators that are my peers, and I was like, I think we're done.

00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:06.319
Like, I think we're done.

00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:07.839
We can't do this, like they're killing us.

00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:11.920
And they tried to kill the president, and that didn't work multiple times.

00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:14.480
And then moved on to kill Charlie.

00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:17.680
And you know, Charlie was the best among us by far.

00:33:18.079 --> 00:33:22.640
And so I think all of us were like, we have to be done.

00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:29.359
I mean, they all are married with kids and have families to think about, and then about a day later, we all like text each other again.

00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:31.599
We're like, oh no, we have to keep going.

00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:32.960
Like Charlie would want that.

00:33:33.039 --> 00:33:36.319
He would be so upset and angry if we said we were giving up.

00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:39.119
Do you think you might take over speaking at the colleges?

00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:39.680
No.

00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:40.000
No.

00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:42.319
I mean, I I mean you could hang you could you could totally hang.

00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:43.440
No, I couldn't, I couldn't.

00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:43.920
That's the thing.

00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:44.880
That is such a special talent.

00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:46.559
And actually, when I first think you have it.

00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:49.599
No, I don't because the thing is, debate is not my forte.

00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:57.519
I mean, I have strong beliefs and I'll share my beliefs, but I don't you have to be you would just have to be on another level smart and to go toe-to-toe and like have all these facts like in the back of your mind.

00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:01.920
I'm the type of person that's like, let me answer that, but I'm gonna need a minute to like look some stuff up.

00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:04.799
And that doesn't play well when you're doing like rapid fire Q ⁇ A.

00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:07.440
Um, but I do speak on college campuses.

00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:15.840
So there's like a Rolidex of people that are within the you know, speakers bureau with Turning Point USA, and we do go talk to colleges, but it's like a planned talk, like have a written speech and stuff.

00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:20.800
Um, so I do that, and I right now it's been different because of Charlie dying.

00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:21.760
So I'm talking a lot about that.

00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:26.159
But otherwise, you know, I stick to like health and wellness topics and maha, make America healthy again.

00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:34.639
And then um, we do have people though that are gifted in that that have kind of agreed to take up the torch and help us out by doing different tour stops.

00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:37.519
So, like JD Vance, the vice president, is doing one.

00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:44.320
Uh uh Ali Bestucki, who I mentioned, Glenn Beck, Megan Kelly, Tucker Carlson, so Ben Shapiro, they're all doing different stops.

00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:49.360
Um, and then they're doing QA's to kind of you know pick up the microphone, so to speak.

00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:52.400
But nobody's trying to replace Charlie and nobody will replace Charlie.

00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:55.119
That's he's you know, he's one and only.

00:34:55.519 --> 00:35:04.079
Um, and so now I just think that's probably what it's gonna look like is turning point USA doing campus tours every semester on college campuses and just having different guests kind of fill in and do those.

00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:06.159
What do you do when you want to eat junk food?

00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:07.519
I don't ever want to eat junk food.

00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:09.679
You don't ever crave ice cream or candy bar?

00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:13.599
So, okay, I never eat fast food.

00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:16.880
I will eat those things, but they're real ingredients.

00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:18.480
So I love ice cream.

00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:21.760
There's great brands that it's just real ingredients in there.

00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:25.599
There's no like Xanthem gum, guar gum, you know, like what?

00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:26.079
Like what brand?

00:35:26.159 --> 00:35:26.559
Like graters.

00:35:26.639 --> 00:35:27.519
Have you had greater's ice cream?

00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:28.960
Oh my gosh, so funny you bring that up.

00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:33.199
So where I I grew up in the Midwest, so I am a Graters fanatic.

00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:34.320
I never hear people talk about graters.

00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:35.679
That's Oprah Winfrey's favorite ice cream.

00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:36.800
I lived in Cincinnati for a while.

00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:37.679
We had graters all the time.

00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:38.239
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:39.599
Freaking drive-thru graters.

00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:39.920
Yes.

00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:43.840
Graters is my number one favorite ice cream that nobody knows about, unless you live in the Midwest.

00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:47.760
But I uh I've never I don't know what their ingredients are, so I couldn't tell you.

00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:52.320
But in the grocery store, Strauss organic ice cream is phenomenal.

00:35:52.639 --> 00:36:00.079
Alex A-L E C S ice cream is phenomenal, and ice cream for bears is probably like one of the best.

00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:07.840
Um, and so if you're at like a Sprouts or a Whole Foods or a Fresh Time, depending on where you live, um, you can usually see if they have those brands.

00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:11.039
So you were like this before your dad got sick, before COVID.

00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:19.199
I started in 2022, 2023 is when I started to really like go crazy.

00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:21.599
But have you seen a change in your skin, in your body?

00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:27.119
I if I pull up pictures of me in like 2021, my face looks so inflamed.

00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:28.639
I look like a completely different person.

00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:32.559
Like I look like somebody, like a balloon animal, and somebody just pumped me up full air.

00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:33.440
I look totally different.

00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:38.880
Now I was I've always been thin, I've always been petite, but you can still see the inflammation for sure.

00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:39.599
There's a huge difference.

00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:44.880
So if you're in a restaurant, like you're meeting some friends at a restaurant and they bring out the chips and salsa, how do you say no to that?

00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:49.119
I just say that because that happened to me two days ago, and I'm so pissed I ate the chips and salsa.

00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:51.280
I will have chips, I'll have chips and salsa.

00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:54.079
I'm careful about what my main entree is that I'm ordering.

00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:58.159
You know, I'm not ordering anything fried that's typically going to be seed oils.

00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:00.960
I'm ordering some sort of protein and vegetable side item.

00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:08.559
So if I'm ordering a steak, for example, I'm asking them, and if you're going to a nice restaurant, they will do this.

00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:14.480
Like if you say, Hey, I have an allergy, can you please cook my steak in only olive oil or butter or beef tallow?

00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:15.360
They'll be like, sure.

00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:19.440
Well, I saw you put um, I think it was today in your social media, The Ends.

00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:19.840
Yeah.

00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:20.719
I've eaten there before.

00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:22.480
Oh, the ENS is fantastic.

00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:23.760
Tommy, who's the owner there?

00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:26.159
If you ever visit Scottsdale, you have to go to the ENS.

00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:28.480
Totally seed oil-free, beef tallow french fries.

00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:28.880
Right.

00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:29.920
The French fries are crazy.

00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:30.800
Great food.

00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:31.039
Right.

00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:33.039
Oh my gosh, the biscuits there, insane.

00:37:33.199 --> 00:37:33.360
Right.

00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:34.880
It'll melt your face off so good.

00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:35.599
Yeah, that place.

00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:39.920
Where else do you go to eat around here that's healthy or that you that fault fits in your description?

00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:42.960
Um, obsessed with this place called Amelia's.

00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:43.840
Oh, yeah, I've been there.

00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:44.239
Yep.

00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:52.320
That's really good for whether you want to go work there and have a coffee or something, everything's organic, everything's seed oil free, or you can have lunch or dinner there, and it's so good.

00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:54.880
They also have amazing gluten-free pastries, which are.

00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:56.320
Is that where they have all the charcuterie?

00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:58.079
They bring it out in the yeah, I believe so.

00:37:58.159 --> 00:37:58.400
Yeah, yeah.

00:37:58.480 --> 00:37:58.880
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:04.159
Um, I think Georgian Gather and Chandler, that's a brand new seed oil-free restaurant that's super good.

00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:06.960
They also you can buy raw milk in there and stuff.

00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:08.480
They have all kinds like a little store connection.

00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:10.239
No, there's a butcher shop on the on your way.

00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:11.840
Um, have you been to Arcadia butcher shop?

00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:12.719
Have you heard of it?

00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:18.719
I it's Indian School and 40th Street, and they have organic milk.

00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:20.320
They have all the steaks, all the everything.

00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:24.880
It's a it's a about the size of this place, and it's just full of all the things you as a matter of fact.

00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:27.280
I interviewed, have you met a certified health nut yet?

00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:28.000
Have you talked to him?

00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:29.440
No, but I know who you're talking about.

00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:30.800
He's the one that told me about it.

00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:33.519
And I went in there and it was like, wow, we just bought everything we could find.

00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:34.320
Okay, love that.

00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:35.360
I'm gonna have to check that out.

00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:35.760
Yeah.

00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:38.719
Uh, and then I like uh Aubergine Kitchen.

00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:41.360
We have that now in Mesa.

00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:43.199
Okay, now I haven't been there.

00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:43.679
That's good.

00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:44.800
We obviously we have true food.

00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:46.960
Scottsdale is the flagship True Food.

00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:49.199
So you think True Food is healthy?

00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:50.320
Oh, it's extremely healthy.

00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:51.840
They just went completely seed oil free.

00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:52.639
Oh, did they?

00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:55.840
Okay, because I had somebody tell me that they pretend to be healthy, but they're really not.

00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:56.800
I'm a true food fan.

00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:57.760
True food is excellent.

00:38:57.840 --> 00:38:59.119
True food is seed oil free.

00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:06.079
There are um a lot of organic options, grass-fed, uh grass-finished beef, like sourdough pizza.

00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:06.719
It's great.

00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:07.360
Okay, good.

00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:07.760
Yeah.

00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:14.800
They have or some organic wine options, they have different adrenal mocktail type of drinks and electrolyte drinks and stuff.

00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:16.079
Do you do electrolytes?

00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:16.559
Yes.

00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:17.519
Which ones?

00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:20.639
I so I love my friend Taylor Duke's Wellness.

00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:23.519
She has a company, and so I do the Taylor Duke's Wellness electrolytes.

00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:25.599
I also like the Redmond salt electrolytes a lot.

00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:27.119
Redmond salt, I just did this thing.

00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:28.639
Have you met Jesse Itzler yet?

00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:29.280
Do you know who he is?

00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:30.079
Jesse Itzler?

00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:30.800
You know all these people.

00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:32.639
You need to give me a list of people I need to have on my show.

00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:33.440
I will, I will.

00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:37.599
I I will, because he I'm he I'm he's booked on my show the next time he comes to Phoenix.

00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:39.920
But he is the guy, his wife invented Spanx.

00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:41.199
Oh Spanks?

00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:41.599
Wow.

00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:42.559
And he is this guy.

00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:44.320
Then maybe that uh his name sounds familiar to me.

00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:51.039
Maybe that's why he's got like curly hair and he's always he's got a company where he's running man, he's running, he's he's uh he does saunas.

00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:51.840
Do you do sauna?

00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:52.159
Yes.

00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:52.800
Yeah, I do sauna.

00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:53.840
I did sauna before I came here.

00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:55.280
Do you cold plunge?

00:39:55.599 --> 00:39:55.920
No.

00:39:56.079 --> 00:40:00.480
I so my hot take, my hot take on cold plunges is women shouldn't do it.

00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:01.440
I've heard that before, too.

00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:02.719
I do not think women should do it.

00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:06.000
It is like a very, very small amount of women that should be doing it.

00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:07.199
And I have Hashimoto's.

00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:11.119
I have an autoimmune disease, so I really like I run cold.

00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:16.079
Um, it's really important for me to eat warming foods and be in warm environments, which is great for Phoenix.

00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:18.079
So I do not think cold plunge would be good for me.

00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:18.719
So I won't do it.

00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:20.960
Okay, wait, I want to get to your auto your autoimmune disease.

00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:22.800
So you have Hashimoto's, which means what?

00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:25.199
Like my thyroid is attacking itself or something.

00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:27.360
And you've tried all kinds of stuff.

00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:40.639
Yeah, so like I'm supposed to be gluten-free, um, you know, be being careful about different foods that are coming up as like reactions to me, um, having a lot of rest, ideally staying away from dairy too.

00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:41.519
I'm not great about that.

00:40:41.599 --> 00:40:43.840
I have you researched stem cells.

00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:52.239
I have interviewed somebody, like we briefly talked about it in an interview, but I've been kind of scared because here's the thing about stem cells Dr.

00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:53.760
Hyman and Dr.

00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:56.480
Axe both had like catastrophic, horrific.

00:40:57.119 --> 00:40:57.360
Dr.

00:40:57.440 --> 00:40:58.000
Josh Axe?

00:40:58.239 --> 00:40:58.320
Yeah.

00:40:58.480 --> 00:40:58.960
Stem cells.

00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:00.880
Again, I'm about to change your life.

00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:01.360
Okay.

00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:06.639
So see, I hear people like you and then uh my friend Brigham Bueller, like, these people swear by stem cells.

00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:07.360
But Dr.

00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:08.960
X got fixed by stem cells.

00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:11.360
No, I think he got almost paralyzed, dead.

00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:12.079
He did.

00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:12.960
He went to the wrong clinic.

00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:13.840
And then he went to the right.

00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:19.039
So that place I spoke at where I was the MC and Gary Brecker was there, Josh Axe was speaking there too.

00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:21.519
And he told the whole story, had pictures of everything.

00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:24.239
He was like paralyzed from some horrible thing that happened.

00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:24.880
That's what I'm saying.

00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:29.440
Then he went to the clinic that I went to, that Gary goes to, and he's fixed.

00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:30.960
Oh, well, maybe I should go do that then.

00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:32.239
You should talk to, but let me tell you this.

00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:34.079
So I have a friend of mine, he's 34 years old.

00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:35.599
Great guy, he's actually my trainer.

00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:42.239
He's had um ulcer colitis and pancreatitis since he was 16 years old, which is an autoimmune disease.

00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:47.119
And he he was there's like two times a year, he goes to the hospital for about a week.

00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:50.320
He's got to take he's on all these meds for his whole life since he was 16.

00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:53.199
I talked him into going with me to Cancun.

00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:56.320
So the clinic I'm I'm about to tell you about, and and I get nothing.

00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:58.320
I just I promote uh what I believe in.

00:41:58.559 --> 00:41:59.039
Yeah, sure.

00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:02.000
Um he went they opened one in Cabo.

00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:04.639
That's where I was at at the grand opening of that one where all these speakers were at.

00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:06.639
And they I took him to Cancun.

00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:12.320
He goes to Cancun and he gets it's a IV drip of about 200, 300 million um stem cells.

00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:17.440
And they're umbilical cords that they're mesenchymal stem cells, they're they're not allowed here in the United States.

00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:18.719
You can only get them other places.

00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:20.639
People go to Panama, Columbia, everywhere.

00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:22.239
He does it in Cancun.

00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:26.800
And right after the drip, the doctor says to him, I'm gonna take you down here and get some Mexican food.

00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:29.599
He goes, I can't eat the Mexican food because my stomach.

00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:30.800
The doctor goes, you'll be fine.

00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:32.480
He ate the Mexican food.

00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:33.199
It's been two years.

00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:36.239
The dude has been off meds, totally fine and healthy.

00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:40.719
And I what I found out is the number one thing stem cells are used for is for autoimmune disease.

00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:42.800
Like, I bet you you go down there.

00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:43.920
I need to do this.

00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:44.559
I love this idea.

00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:45.599
It's a game changer.

00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:45.920
Okay.

00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:46.960
It's a game changer.

00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:48.639
I'm gonna introduce you to these people.

00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:49.440
Please, yes.

00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:53.760
I'm gonna in fact, uh these guys have been on Gary's podcast.

00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:54.480
Oh, great.

00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:56.480
Well, maybe I should have them on then to do a stem cell episode.

00:42:56.719 --> 00:42:57.360
You could have them on.

00:42:57.440 --> 00:42:58.079
The guy's amazing.

00:42:58.559 --> 00:42:59.119
Okay, let's do it.

00:42:59.199 --> 00:42:59.840
Let's set that up.

00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:03.360
Yeah, uh Rafael Gonzalez, the company's called Rehealth.

00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:07.039
Uh, he's based in LA, but he owns the clinic in Cabo and in Cancun.

00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:07.679
Great guys.

00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:08.159
I in fact.

00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:10.559
And so when you go, how long do you stay down there?

00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:12.639
Well, it depends on what you like.

00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:15.440
You could go down there and just get a drip and be up and back in two days.

00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:18.159
You probably need two days because they probably do half a drip since your first time.

00:43:18.239 --> 00:43:21.280
You do half of the drip the first day and then the second half the second day.

00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:23.440
But like we were talking about Charlie's back pain.

00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:26.880
I have uh I got an MRI and my L5 is all screwed up.

00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:29.519
My doctor says you need to get stem cells.

00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:35.280
I went down to Cancun and I had to go to the hospital, and they put me under and they injected my spine.

00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:46.320
They put drilled holes into my spine and they put stuff in my membrane and all over the spine, 65 shots, and then I had another drip of IV of uh stem cells, and I'm totally fine.

00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:48.000
What does it feel like when you're getting it done?

00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:50.320
Well, just like an or you ever get an IV drip of vitamins?

00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:50.559
Yeah.

00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:51.280
That's what it feels like.

00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:56.559
But do you feel like energized after you do stem cell therapy or whatever you call it, or do you feel tired?

00:43:57.039 --> 00:44:02.079
I don't feel different, but a couple of my friends that have that have gone with me or done it on their own.

00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:04.400
They one of them like says he just can't stop eating.

00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:04.880
He's eating.

00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:08.400
In fact, he started he started taking a peptide to calm down his eating.

00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:11.840
Uh other people say it doubles and triples their weight when they're lifting weights.

00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:12.079
Whoa.

00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:13.199
They got stronger.

00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:18.239
My doctor, she was like, she goes down there and she does it, and she says that her her body fat goes down.

00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:19.440
I think it's different for everybody.

00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:19.760
Okay.

00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:24.880
But it's like from it again, without doctor terms, it's like it doesn't know what it is yet.

00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:27.760
So it goes into your body and it just starts fixing things.

00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:28.480
I need that.

00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:30.480
It just starts fixing things because it didn't know what it is yet.

00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:34.000
Yeah, I hope it, I hope it does something to my mental brain.

00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:35.599
Save this tape.

00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:38.000
I'm gonna play it back for a year from now when she's healed.

00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:38.960
Yeah, I'd love that.

00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:41.679
I'm telling you, this place is it's it's amazing.

00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:50.960
And in fact, one of the things I've I've seen, there's these speakers in the biohacking world that go on and they say, drink this water, do this red light, get sunlight.

00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:55.440
The one thing they don't talk about is that almost all of them go against stem cells.

00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:56.719
That's some tea right there.

00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:57.599
I know it is.

00:44:57.760 --> 00:44:58.239
I know.

00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:09.599
There's things I can't say because of a HIPAA, or I don't know, I don't think you betray people's trust, but there's so many people I know that go down there that are publicly speaking about health and nutrition, and that's the one thing they don't talk about.

00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:10.400
Well, why not?

00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:16.000
I don't I don't know, maybe because it's illegal, or maybe because because then they can't sell the product that they're pushing.

00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:17.519
Because it fixes everything.

00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:18.639
I think it's the miracle.

00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:26.960
No, see, I'm all about, you know, it's important to have integrity in this space because we're going up against a behemoth, right?

00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:33.760
With just the current medical complex and what we've been dealt for the last 50 years, which is we've we're we've never been sicker.

00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:35.199
So we're going up against that.

00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:37.599
We're trying to gain people's trust back.

00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:47.119
So I'm like, look, if you're in this space and you're doing stem cells, you're doing whatever, uh let's talk about all the things that we're doing if we're if it's working for us and it's serving us and we're feeling well.

00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:55.920
And also, you know, on the other side of that is I think it's important to let the public know you have to do what's best for you.

00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:58.800
And it's most important to listen to your own body.

00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:08.800
So, you know, you drinking dairy might make you feel super sick and your stomach hurt because you've got a severe dairy allergy, even though like raw milk makes somebody else feel like a million bucks.

00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:10.239
You have to listen to your own body.

00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:15.119
You can't just say Alex Clark does this or or Gary Brecker or John Jay does this.

00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:17.840
Like, you can't do that and then just expect it's going to work for you.

00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:20.239
Because people always want to know like the supplements I take.

00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:26.159
I'm like, I'm not telling you because I know you're gonna go out, you're gonna buy every single supplement I'm taking, and then you're gonna end up like effed up.

00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:29.119
And I don't want to be blamed for that because this is real stuff.

00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:36.000
I mean, this is this is medicine and healing medicine that works if you have the exact same problems as me, which you don't.

00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:43.280
So you've gotta go meet with somebody, not just a social media influencer, a a trusted functional medicine doctor, and get on a plan for you.

00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:44.159
That's what I do.

00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:46.559
If I hear about a celebrity taking something, I go get it.

00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:50.719
Like, in fact, you know that guy, that Brian Johnson guy who's trying to live to be a billionaire.

00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:53.280
No, that guy is like so interesting to me.

00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:53.920
Me too.

00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:55.039
I'd love to interview him.

00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:56.239
In fact, check this out.

00:46:56.320 --> 00:47:04.880
So he I saw this interview with him where he said if he could only do one thing, one thing, it would be drink extra virgin olive oil.

00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:05.599
Have you heard this yet?

00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:06.079
Yeah.

00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:06.639
Right?

00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:09.360
So the doctor that was sitting here that I was telling you about Dr.

00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:10.880
Rubin, he said he did the same thing.

00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:11.679
He does it too.

00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:13.039
And he told me about this brand.

00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:18.880
And I can't remember the numbers, but he's like, the brand I have is 250 polyphenols or something, right?

00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:19.840
And I'm like, oh, is that good?

00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:21.199
He goes, Yeah, that's the highest you can get.

00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:22.719
And I go, well, let me tell you about.

00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:24.960
I buy the guy's product, the Brian Johnson.

00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:29.840
He sells his own, it's called snake oil, and it's it's uh extra virgin olive oil.

00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:34.559
And I gave him a bottle and he goes, Oh my god, this has like a thousand polyphenols.

00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:39.280
And I'm like, Yes, I don't know what any of that means, but I take a shot glass of it every night.

00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:47.760
Yeah, I have this teeny tiny olive oil shot glass, and I haven't actually done it yet, but I've heard of people saying that in the morning and with a little uh splash of lemon juice in it.

00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:49.039
Oh, I don't do the lemon juice.

00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:49.679
Are you supposed to?

00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:56.159
Well, a lot of people do just I don't know, maybe for taste or the benefits, but they just do that and then they that's down the hatch first thing.

00:47:56.320 --> 00:47:58.719
Um, and I haven't started doing that, but now maybe I will.

00:47:58.800 --> 00:47:59.599
Maybe I'll add that in.

00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:03.039
It's supposed to be the why is this guy who's trying to live to be a thousand years old?

00:48:03.119 --> 00:48:04.079
This is the one thing he would do.

00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:04.719
Yeah, yeah.

00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:05.039
Right?

00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:07.599
He also does the red light therapy, all those, all that stuff.

00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:12.239
I I do I do everything I can because I got three boys and I'm trying to be around as long as I can.

00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:12.639
Yeah.

00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:13.039
Right?

00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:15.679
By the way, also, I'm gonna jump back to your mom and dad for a second.

00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:17.199
Your mom, she's still around.

00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:17.599
Yep.

00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:20.400
She must be uh so proud of you and your success.

00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:21.039
Thank you.

00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:22.320
I think she is.

00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:30.159
I uh, you know, her my mom and dad were high school sweethearts, and she's never known a life without him.

00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:36.400
So she just sold their house and just got her own house by herself, you know, smaller that makes sense for being alone.

00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:42.880
And um, I'm gonna be seeing that for the first time on Thanksgiving because I haven't gotten to go visit and see the new house yet.

00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:44.960
So yeah, she's just she's ain't in there.

00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:46.400
I think, you know, she's lonely.

00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:48.159
Um you have brothers and sisters?

00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:56.239
I have a brother who lives like five minutes down the road from her, so he's been a great help in helping her out with everything, but it's hard for me because I live on the other side of the country and she's in Indiana.

00:48:56.400 --> 00:48:58.559
But yeah, I I mean both my parents are proud.

00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:01.119
They're Christians, conservatives.

00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:02.000
That's how I grew up.

00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:06.880
So ever all the work that I'm doing, I think is really beyond any of our wildest dreams.

00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:26.480
I mean, last week I went to New York to the Fox News headquarters and was doing Fox News Live, and that was the weirdest thing for me as a kid who grew up on Hannity and Combs and Megan Kelly and Bill O'Reilly, and then to be there in person was like really tripping me out and be like, I'm on here.

00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:29.840
And that's just it's it's weird for my mom too.

00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:33.199
Because like that was on every we watch that as a family every day.

00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:41.760
No, I remember at the at the radio station, I uh, you know, I work for iHeart Media, do a radio show, and there's like eight radio stations in our building, and you know, I know some of them.

00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:47.199
There's like a conservative talk show and radio station, and I was going to the bathroom, I had to go pee.

00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:51.199
And I remember there was a guy, uh like a security guy at the door to the bathroom.

00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:52.480
And I was like, that's weird.

00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:55.760
And I walk in, I'm peeing at the urinal, and it's Sean Hannity right next to me.

00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:56.239
No way.

00:49:56.400 --> 00:49:58.079
And I'm like, oh my god, no way.

00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:01.280
You got to pee with Sean Hannity.

00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:02.639
No way, what are you doing?

00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:04.960
Well, oh, that's why the security guard's out here.

00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:08.639
It was like, so to actually be there doing the stuff with him is different.

00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:08.800
Yeah.

00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:10.000
Oh, you got to pee next to him.

00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:11.840
Yeah, you got to cross you got to cross dreams.

00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:12.800
So, I mean, that's pretty big.

00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:14.159
We didn't cross dreams.

00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:21.360
That's the next thing I'm gonna put down on my bucket list.

00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:25.679
I don't think he ever made me laugh on a podcast.

00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:30.639
That is uh, yeah, that's that's like definitely a dream come true.

00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:46.400
And um, so there's been a lot of opportunities, you know, going to the White House, getting to meet the president, um, just really surreal things and stuff that I never, I mean, when I was starting in radio, like I said, like I just was like, my dream is to be on Kid Craddock show.

00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:49.840
Like, so that was so weird.

00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:58.000
Like, I was like messaging Jeff Dollar from the Burt Show and being like, uh uh, what do I need to do to get to get to be on the Burt Show?

00:50:58.079 --> 00:50:59.039
And like him helping me out.

00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:00.719
And did you get on the Burt Show?

00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:03.360
Uh no, but I it was like that was what I was working towards.

00:51:03.519 --> 00:51:05.440
So Bert like retired yesterday.

00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:07.840
You're joking! I missed this news.

00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:10.000
He just retired, he's done with radio.

00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:10.559
Why?

00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:11.840
He's way too young.

00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:12.320
I know.

00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:14.400
He said he's done literally yesterday.

00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:16.159
It's all over the news and radio world today.

00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:17.440
Oh my gosh, I'm freaking out.

00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:17.840
I miss this.

00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:20.800
I've been in like meetings all day and doing other interviews, and I have not seen this.

00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:23.519
You're telling this is like Trump, you're telling me for the first time.

00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:26.239
Yeah, he retired, he's done.

00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:27.360
He's in San Diego right now.

00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:32.079
He's going to he's going to like Thailand and he's gonna just travel the world for about a year.

00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:34.239
And then he's gonna get so bored and he's gonna be back.

00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:35.119
That's what I think.

00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:37.840
There's no way this man lives and breathes radio.

00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:38.559
Why?

00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:40.559
He just got this new young hot wife.

00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:40.960
That's why.

00:51:41.199 --> 00:51:42.400
That's part of it, yeah.

00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:43.119
Yeah.

00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:47.760
And in Dollar, it's so funny you bring about Dollar because you know, he used to be called Omelette.

00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:48.559
He's what?

00:51:48.719 --> 00:51:50.639
His radio name was Omelette back in the day.

00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:51.280
Oh, yeah.

00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:56.000
And he was part of a show in Tucson, like in the year 2000.

00:51:56.079 --> 00:51:58.400
And then that show went to Detroit, Mojo.

00:51:58.480 --> 00:51:59.599
I don't know if you heard of Mojo show.

00:51:59.679 --> 00:51:59.920
Uh-huh.

00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:03.679
And Rich, my partner and I, he was the producer of the Krattic show.

00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:06.800
And him and I teamed up and took over for Omelette and Mojo.

00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:07.599
You know what?

00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:10.239
I miss if I freaking love radio.

00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:13.679
And everybody's asked me, like, out of all the things that you've ever done, like, what's your favorite?

00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:15.920
And and I'm like, oh, it's radio by far.

00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:31.760
There is something so intimate and special about the art of radio, and it really pisses me off how we're automating everything, and and we're losing the magic, and there's just nothing like it.

00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:33.679
There's nothing like morning radio.

00:52:33.760 --> 00:52:36.480
It it's it's so unique, it's so special.

00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:42.800
The relationships that you build with those listeners when you're on your way to work with them every single day, or they're on their way to work with you every single day.

00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:43.519
I agree.

00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:44.639
It's very intimate.

00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:45.360
There's nothing like it.

00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:48.559
It's just sad to me that Well, that's not happening everywhere.

00:52:48.719 --> 00:53:02.079
I know it's not happening everywhere, but it's sad to me that a lot of companies are they don't care about unique talent and finding they've finding special talent and keeping it local and unique to markets.

00:53:03.360 --> 00:53:03.920
That's what I'm saying.

00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:05.599
It's one person that's doing 12 stations.

00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:05.840
Right.

00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:07.760
And and I just think that's sad.

00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:14.239
I think it's important when there's something going on in Phoenix to have a local Phoenix person being like Charlie Kirk was shot.

00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:14.480
Right.

00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:15.119
You know what I mean?

00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:20.159
Not somebody from frickin' uh the suburbs of Mankato, Minnesota, right?

00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:22.000
Like talking about, you know what I'm saying?

00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:22.239
Yeah.

00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:23.840
You know what's so weird about the Charlie Kirk?

00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:30.079
I mean, there was a million things, but I when when it happened, so like I've been friends with Erica for a long time.

00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:31.599
When she was Miss Arizona, right?

00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:33.599
She'd come in the studio all the time and stuff.

00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:36.880
And so she did some wonderful things for my family.

00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:40.239
My son, Dutch, when he was a senior in high school, this is so crazy.

00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:43.599
He he wanted to meet the president of the United States, and Erica made that happen.

00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:44.159
Wow.

00:53:44.639 --> 00:53:45.920
And that's when we met Charlie and everything.

00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:46.719
They were so nice.

00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:52.159
And when he got shot, immediately I posted, please pray for my friend's family.

00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:57.760
And oh my God, the backlash I got immediately was insane.

00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:01.840
And I was like, Whoa, I didn't give you my political beliefs.

00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:05.599
All I said was, pray for my friend's family, and it just went sideways.

00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:06.079
Yeah.

00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:08.079
You know, you must experience that kind of stuff a lot.

00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:11.440
Or maybe not you're in a certain place where people know who you are what you get.

00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:18.159
Like with me on the radio, you know, it's like when Michael Jordan used to say, I don't lean politically anyway because both parties buy shoes.

00:54:18.320 --> 00:54:18.480
Yeah.

00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:18.880
Right.

00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:24.079
So it's like being a CHR show, you don't lean a certain way because then you lose half your audience.

00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:31.199
Yeah, but you know what's what's bold to me is that they're all doing that on um like hip hop formats, urban formats.

00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:31.760
They're all political.

00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:34.239
Like Russ Parr in the morning, like shows like Charlemagne.

00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:34.719
Yeah.

00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:36.000
They're all political, right?

00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:38.079
But for some reason, CHR can't go another way.

00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:42.880
You can't reveal what you what who you vote for when you're in CHR, which I don't understand.

00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:45.039
Um, I feel like that's a total double standard.

00:54:45.119 --> 00:54:45.679
I don't get it.

00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:55.679
I think it's important to have people on one show with different beliefs, like have a producer or somebody that's gonna, you know, represent a different view so that it's interesting conversation, it's not an echo chamber.

00:54:55.760 --> 00:55:03.440
And then somewhat everyone in the audience is like, oh, I relate to to John, I I relate to you know Jessica, like there's somebody for them to relate to.

00:55:03.840 --> 00:55:08.880
You should be able to work together, you should also be able to be friends with different political views, and apparently all hell breaks loose if you're gonna be able to do it.

00:55:09.039 --> 00:55:22.000
Well, and that's what like I was at dinner the other night, and somebody at this dinner said, you know, I just here's the thing like I just want to I want everybody to get back to like what we were after 9-11, like kind of kumbaya, and like we're all Americans type of a thing.

00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:27.920
And and I was like, I I wish that that was the case.

00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:32.159
Unfortunately, you have one side that wants the other side dead.

00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:37.760
So, how do you do that when they're killing us?

00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:42.079
So I feel very strongly like that ship is sailed, basically.

00:55:42.159 --> 00:56:03.280
There's like a few people that are kind of like in the middle, maybe they're still a little bit open-minded that you can kind of move over, but you have to come to the reality that there is a certain there is disturbingly enough, a section of America that genuinely believes if you have the wrong political beliefs, it's okay to resort to violence and death.

00:56:03.599 --> 00:56:08.800
What do you think of people in the media like um like the the n the nighttime shows?

00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:10.480
The late night shows.

00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:19.679
And I think that if they were smart, they would put someone like Theo Vaughn at night.

00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:20.159
Right.

00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:26.559
If you want to revive the can't late night comedy, you have to actually get a comedian, you have to actually get somebody funny.

00:56:26.800 --> 00:56:30.239
I think SNL has started to like work their way back.

00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:32.000
Like they're getting a little bit better.

00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:35.599
Like, I I'm actually enjoying some SNL stuff for the first time in years.

00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:37.519
Um, just mean.

00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:38.000
Yeah.

00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:44.719
Well, and just also just like again, they were they got into this cycle in Trump's first term of like all we have to do is just bash conservatives all the time.

00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:48.559
Well, whether you're conservative or not, I don't understand how that's funny or like entertaining.

00:56:48.719 --> 00:56:52.480
Um I'll tell you on the other side, I I actually really like Bill Maher.

00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:53.760
I love Bill Maher.

00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:55.519
I love Bill Maher.

00:56:55.599 --> 00:56:57.199
I'm obsessed with Bill Maher's show.

00:56:57.599 --> 00:57:02.960
Bill Maher, to me, I think is what is one of the best talents that we have left.

00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:04.239
He's the best in talk shows.

00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:07.360
He's the he do you did you ever get a chance to see Johnny Carson?

00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:09.760
He's like, he's he's Johnny Carson.

00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:10.000
Yeah.

00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:10.800
Except politics.

00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:12.079
I mean, I've seen videos and I know who is.

00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:13.119
Johnny Carson's a legend.

00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:13.519
He's the best.

00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:14.480
Nobody's like Johnny Carson.

00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:18.480
Bill Maher is the closest thing to Johnny Carson, but he's on a political show and he's so damn funny.

00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:21.199
And he did you watch the uh podcast he did with Charlie Kirk?

00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:21.920
I did, yeah.

00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:22.719
It was fantastic.

00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:22.960
Yeah.

00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:24.000
That was fantastic.

00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:25.679
I'm just obsessed with him.

00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:27.360
And uh you should be on that show.

00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:28.400
Yeah, I don't know.

00:57:28.639 --> 00:57:29.360
You haven't been invited.

00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:31.360
You should, that's that I bet you that's coming.

00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:32.400
I guarantee you that's it.

00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:32.960
That would be wild.

00:57:33.039 --> 00:57:35.280
Well, if it does, then we'll know that you predicted it first.

00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:37.199
But I I think Bill's doing it right.

00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:39.599
You know, yeah, I think Bill would be would be great.

00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:40.960
Like, put him put him on there.

00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:46.559
But um, I don't understand like any basically you or I get more views than these shows.

00:57:46.719 --> 00:57:49.519
Like, I don't understand how they get justify it.

00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:50.559
Your show's huge.

00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:57.599
But I don't understand how you like you've got like any any YouTuber or TikToker is getting more views than these late night shows and they're still paying them millions.

00:57:57.840 --> 00:57:58.480
It's weird.

00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:00.800
Um, getting back to something with your mom and dad.

00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:03.280
So you grew up because are you still very religious?

00:58:03.599 --> 00:58:04.159
Yeah, yep.

00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:07.199
I'm a Christian, and uh, that's super important to me.

00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:16.639
And you know, even always open about that, but with Charlie dying and stuff, even more so, I'm like, oh, this is like so crucially important.

00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:18.559
But what about when your dad was sick?

00:58:18.800 --> 00:58:21.199
Did you go to any like for me?

00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:24.960
Um, I don't know if you know my mom is Mexican and my dad is from the Netherlands.

00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:26.320
I came out looking more like my dad.

00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:29.599
They both came immigrated here from the from Mexico and the Netherlands.

00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:41.519
And my mother, when she got sick, she wanted to go to a little town outside of Paris called Lourdes, which is where uh the Virgin Mary appeared one time and healed all the sick.

00:58:41.760 --> 00:58:43.920
And there's a river that runs through it that is blessed.

00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:44.800
She blessed it.

00:58:44.960 --> 00:58:48.960
And so my sister and I took my mom there and went on this like religious pilgrimage.

00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:52.000
And when we went there, I don't know if you've ever heard it before, but it is fascinating.

00:58:52.079 --> 00:59:01.920
There's thousands of people, nuns, priests, and people that are sick, and they walk every night with candles and they pray and they bathe in this water that's supposed to heal you.

00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:02.880
You ever heard of it?

00:59:03.039 --> 00:59:03.360
Never.

00:59:03.599 --> 00:59:04.000
It's a trip.

00:59:04.159 --> 00:59:07.280
Lourdes, when you get a chance, go get Lourdes on the show.

00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:15.039
So I mean But I didn't know if you when you went through that with your dad, if you went like, oh my god, we gotta go pray, we gotta go do this, eat this, drink this, pray this.

00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:22.400
Yeah, I mean, my faith was a constant throughout that, and and praying, obviously, for him and and my family and my mom.

00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:25.440
But yeah, that hadn't that didn't change.

00:59:25.519 --> 00:59:32.719
I mean, because I I that's how I grew up, so that wasn't new for me, but definitely trying to persuade him to kind of change his life was.

00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:40.079
Um I was really frustrated with just like him wanting to eat apple jacks and stuff like that.

00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:42.719
And then my mom just feels bad because she's like, he's dying of cancer.

00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:44.000
Like, if he wants to eat this, let him eat it.

00:59:44.639 --> 00:59:45.599
Sugar feeds the cancer.

00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:49.599
I know that's what I said, and I was like, I get that, mom, but this is the problem.

00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:51.119
I was like, he's gonna die for sure.

00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:53.360
We know that, but like maybe we can buy an extra three months.

00:59:53.440 --> 00:59:54.800
Like, I that's what I was trying to do.

00:59:54.880 --> 00:59:56.320
I was trying to play the game like that.

00:59:56.719 --> 00:59:59.840
And you know, you you have to be willing, and and it's that's the thing.

01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:03.039
It he was an addict, and addicts are gonna do that.

01:00:03.280 --> 01:00:05.679
It could be food, it could be alcohol, it could be drugs.

01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:08.239
If you have a parent that's an addict, then you understand it.

01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:13.039
Now, no one, I don't think that anyone else in my family is willing to use that language in regards to him.

01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:13.840
I do.

01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:18.239
Um, and I love him, but that is what he was struggling with.

01:00:18.400 --> 01:00:20.239
I mean, it was that's how it was my whole life.

01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:22.719
Like we pass a white castle, oh, we gotta stop, you know.

01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:23.440
It's just constant.

01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:25.199
Did you ever eat white castle in your entire life?

01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:25.679
Oh, yeah.

01:00:26.239 --> 01:00:28.719
I mean, I was I ate and lived just like him.

01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:29.039
Right.

01:00:29.199 --> 01:00:30.239
You know, when I was growing up.

01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:32.960
And then I had a shift and I realized how important it was.

01:00:33.039 --> 01:00:35.920
And I was like, I'm gonna literally gonna die eating like this at night.

01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:37.199
It never clicked for me before.

01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:39.840
I just thought if it's on shelves, this is what most Americans think.

01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:42.000
I think if it's on a grocery shelf, it's safe.

01:00:42.159 --> 01:00:42.480
Right.

01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:43.199
But it isn't.

01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:50.639
And then I had this like crazy mind-blow moment where I realized that almost everything in the grocery store isn't food.

01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:51.119
Right.

01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:53.840
And so I I was like freaked out by that.

01:00:54.000 --> 01:00:57.920
And and so um, yeah, I just started learning how to cook.

01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:02.000
I had no idea how to cook because everything I ate was in like boxes and bags or fast food.

01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:03.760
So I had to learn how to cook during the pandemic.

01:01:03.840 --> 01:01:09.199
And the way I did that, and they're not a sponsor, and I also would not recommend them because they're totally using seed oils and ingredients I wouldn't use now.

01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:14.000
But the way I learned to cook was using um home chef or whatever that was green chef.

01:01:14.239 --> 01:01:14.800
Hello Fresh?

01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:15.840
Yeah, one of those, yeah.

01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:16.639
One of those, yeah, yeah.

01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:22.400
And so I was getting one of those meal subscription services because they have uh they have pictures with the steps of what you do.

01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:29.199
And so I learned how to cook like that, and then I gained confidence, and then I was able to, you know, get a recipe book out and start actually cooking with recipes without pictures.

01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:30.960
So what have you eaten today?

01:01:31.360 --> 01:01:36.239
Today I have had a pro of like a 50 gram protein smoothie, and that is it so far.

01:01:36.320 --> 01:01:38.000
So I've been really bad, but I've been really busy.

01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:40.239
Do you count how many grams of protein you have a day?

01:01:40.320 --> 01:01:40.480
Yeah.

01:01:40.960 --> 01:01:41.599
So what do you have?

01:01:41.840 --> 01:01:47.760
I need to be eating probably like 100 to 120 grams of protein.

01:01:48.239 --> 01:01:49.280
What about exercise?

01:01:49.519 --> 01:01:51.599
So I were I have a personal trainer.

01:01:51.840 --> 01:01:53.519
I also do Pilates.

01:01:54.079 --> 01:01:54.639
Every day?

01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:59.760
No, I try to go like twice a week if I can.

01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:03.519
What's crazy is I am gone constantly.

01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:05.679
Like I'm almost in a new city every week.

01:02:05.840 --> 01:02:08.800
But when I'm home, I try to work out two, three times a week.

01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:10.480
Do you take food with you?

01:02:11.199 --> 01:02:11.760
Yes.

01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:18.880
Initially, when I'm going on the plane, I will try to pack something or like one of the best hacks is I pack snacks for sure.

01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:19.840
I love tin fish.

01:02:19.920 --> 01:02:21.760
I always bring tin fish with me everywhere I go.

01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:23.599
Just like fish in a tin.

01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:25.119
Oh, you mean fish?

01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:25.760
Real fish?

01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:30.320
Yeah, like lemon or yeah, like mackerel or sardines or something.

01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:31.920
It's so good for you.

01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:33.519
Um, and it's and it tastes really good.

01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:37.039
I'm obsessed, and they're not a sponsor either, but says of this brand Fishwife.

01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:38.639
It's like super cute packaging.

01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:40.159
So I'm like a sucker for that.

01:02:40.239 --> 01:02:41.440
And then do they do tuna?

01:02:41.519 --> 01:02:42.480
It's like tuna fish too.

01:02:42.559 --> 01:02:43.280
Yeah, anything.

01:02:43.360 --> 01:02:44.800
It's but it's called Fishwife.

01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:45.360
Fish wife.

01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:47.920
And yeah, you it'll tell you on the box, you know, what type of fish.

01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:51.599
Yeah, and it's an olive oil, and they've do like chili flakes, and it's really good.

01:02:51.760 --> 01:03:00.159
Um, but I love that, or I'll do uh just ground beef, so just like hamburger patties, plain no bun or anything, with just a bunch of Redmond salt on it.

01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:00.880
I'll do that.

01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:01.440
Wow.

01:03:01.599 --> 01:03:01.840
Yeah.

01:03:02.079 --> 01:03:04.639
Okay, so now let me ask you this Taylor Swift.

01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:05.760
Obsessed.

01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:10.880
So one of the greatest perks of working in radio was that I got to meet her twice.

01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:11.119
Yeah.

01:03:11.519 --> 01:03:13.360
And my audience like cannot believe that.

01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:15.440
My audience hates Taylor Swift because they're all conservative.

01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:17.599
So they think it's like they think I'm like disloyal.

01:03:17.679 --> 01:03:20.559
I'm a traitor for loving her the way that I do, but she's the background of my phone.

01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:22.880
I've gone to every tour multiple times.

01:03:23.039 --> 01:03:26.159
Um, became a Swifty during the Speak Now tour.

01:03:26.239 --> 01:03:28.480
And I am a diehard Taylor fan.

01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:36.400
I just did a Patreon special podcast, and I it was uh behind a paywall, and you had to pay to to listen to it.

01:03:36.480 --> 01:03:47.599
But it was like an eight-episode special series where a friend and I, that's also a Swifty, we went like deep into the lore of every single era, reacted to the life of a showgirl, and did our predictions for TS13 and what the wedding will be like.

01:03:47.760 --> 01:03:50.880
And we made people pay for it, and then all that money was gifted to Erica.

01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:51.360
Wow.

01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:58.800
Yeah, so um that was like a fun little special thing that I did, but I could talk Taylor, I could totally talk Taylor all day, every day.

01:03:59.280 --> 01:03:59.920
She's fascinating.

01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:01.599
Yeah, I I'm obsessed with her.

01:04:01.679 --> 01:04:08.400
I think that she's a brilliant uh artist, businesswoman, songwriter, just person and celebrity in general.

01:04:08.639 --> 01:04:11.840
So you can put away her political beliefs, lock that up.

01:04:12.079 --> 01:04:13.280
I just do not care.

01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:20.400
And I think that it's so retarded when people come at me for liking her for being a leftist.

01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:22.719
And I'm like, okay, do you subscribe to Netflix?

01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:24.079
Do you scroll on Twitter?

01:04:24.159 --> 01:04:25.039
Do you watch TV?

01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:26.880
Do you listen to any music that's secular?

01:04:27.119 --> 01:04:31.679
Because if you do, you're consuming people that are totally liberal because most of them are.

01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:33.840
So why is it her that she's got like this?

01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:38.320
There people are obsessed with like she is this purity test.

01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:42.079
If I like Taylor Swift, then you know it's like the end all be all for me.

01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:44.639
People literally are like, I'm unfollowing you because you like Taylor Swift.

01:04:44.719 --> 01:04:45.760
And I'm like, goodbye.

01:04:45.920 --> 01:04:46.800
You're already blocked.

01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:48.559
So what about when you have Trump posts?

01:04:48.719 --> 01:04:49.519
I hate Taylor Swift.

01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:51.840
Does that you get stop?

01:04:52.159 --> 01:04:54.159
I'm like, my mom and Jen are fighting.

01:04:54.320 --> 01:04:55.920
Um I love her.

01:04:56.079 --> 01:04:58.639
So I hate when he does that because I think it's super dumb.

01:04:58.719 --> 01:05:00.239
And I'm like, why are you doing this?

01:05:00.400 --> 01:05:03.119
Like she she's so beloved.

01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:03.440
Right.

01:05:03.679 --> 01:05:05.360
Besides conservative, she is beloved.

01:05:05.599 --> 01:05:07.199
And I'm like, so why are you attacking her?

01:05:07.360 --> 01:05:10.800
Because it's just, and especially with young women, it's like you already struggle with young women.

01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:11.519
Like, can we not?

01:05:11.599 --> 01:05:13.039
So that's my weird.

01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:15.760
Like when she got engaged, I was so happy for her.

01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:16.559
I know.

01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:17.280
Everybody was.

01:05:17.440 --> 01:05:18.239
People were crying.

01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:19.280
I thought it was so weird.

01:05:19.679 --> 01:05:20.800
Stock market like went crazy.

01:05:20.960 --> 01:05:21.599
No, I'm just joking.

01:05:21.679 --> 01:05:23.519
But she's just she's just different, right?

01:05:23.599 --> 01:05:24.320
There's nothing like her.

01:05:24.559 --> 01:05:26.400
Well, we've all been rooting for her to find love.

01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:29.360
We've gone through this whole journey with her since she was literally a kid.

01:05:29.519 --> 01:05:34.880
And so it feels like your sister or your friend or whatever has like finally found true love, and you're just so excited.

01:05:35.119 --> 01:05:38.079
You know, since you have the radio background, we did a game.

01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:42.960
Uh uh, we were given away a car or something, and we played a game, and it was called uh Who Do You Know?

01:05:43.039 --> 01:05:45.039
where you have the biggest celebrity call in for you.

01:05:45.119 --> 01:05:49.119
Whoever can have the biggest celebrity call in, um, that person will win the car.

01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:54.239
This is in uh God, 2006, 2000, or you might even know the date when I tell you what happened.

01:05:54.400 --> 01:05:59.519
I get a phone call from a girl, and she's like, Hi, um, my name's Taylor Swift.

01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:02.880
Uh, somebody left a message on my MySpace to call in.

01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:04.159
Uh, I'm 16.

01:06:04.320 --> 01:06:06.159
She was 16, and she called into our show.

01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:06.960
No way.

01:06:07.119 --> 01:06:08.000
Yeah, no wow.

01:06:08.159 --> 01:06:10.400
That person didn't win the car, but they would today.

01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:11.280
Right, yeah.

01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:12.239
Can you believe that?

01:06:13.199 --> 01:06:15.039
Oh, that is so crazy.

01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:16.960
What some what's that's some good lore?

01:06:17.119 --> 01:06:17.599
That was crazy.

01:06:17.679 --> 01:06:18.320
Yeah, it was amazing.

01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:21.280
And when we play the audio every once in a while, and it's so cute because she's so young.

01:06:21.360 --> 01:06:24.800
And we've had her on our show several times since then, but that was the first time.

01:06:25.039 --> 01:06:27.599
Um, so when you did, you said you met her, did you get pictures with her?

01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:39.599
Yep, we got pictures, and the first time I met her was during the Red Tour, and uh I asked her about her cats, and she told me she loved my dress, and I'd picked this dress out at Anthropology that I knew she would like.

01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:41.039
I was like, I know Taylor would like this dress.

01:06:41.119 --> 01:06:42.880
And she that was one of the first things she said, Oh, I love this.

01:06:42.960 --> 01:06:43.920
Where did you get this?

01:06:44.079 --> 01:06:49.039
Uh, which she might just say to everybody to be nice, but I'm gonna pretend like you know, I picked something she would pick.

01:06:49.280 --> 01:06:58.400
And uh my I was with a friend, and my friend was pregnant that I worked with a coworker at the radio station, and she was asking like the about the baby immediately, like, what what's the nursery decorations gonna be like?

01:06:58.559 --> 01:07:06.639
I mean, she's so thoughtful and always making it about the person that's in the meet and greet room, not about her, which I'm sure you've met her.

01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:06.800
Yeah.

01:07:06.960 --> 01:07:09.920
Yeah, she's always like that with everybody and so kind to radio people.

01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:18.079
And then the second time, I like my fangirling had reached like another crazy level.

01:07:18.159 --> 01:07:19.519
This is during 1989.

01:07:19.679 --> 01:07:27.119
And so when she finally worked her way through the room to me, I just burst into tears and I was like, and then like I couldn't like compose myself.

01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:30.400
And I've been in radio for like so long, and all my coworkers are so embarrassed.

01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:31.760
I'm like, I'm so sorry.

01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:36.000
And then I said, Um, I'm just so happy for you because she was dating Calvin Harris at the time.

01:07:36.159 --> 01:07:39.440
And so I said, uh, I'm so happy for you that you're dating Calvin.

01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:41.280
We just love him or think he's great or something.

01:07:41.360 --> 01:07:44.239
And she said, Isn't he great or something?

01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:48.480
And um uh yeah, and she was like, It's okay that you're crying.

01:07:48.719 --> 01:07:54.960
And then I asked her uh what her favorite chicken nuggets are because I was the chicken nugget fast food queen, and so I asked her that.

01:07:55.039 --> 01:07:59.519
And when she wrote a little, she wrote me a little card after thanking me for coming and meeting me.

01:07:59.760 --> 01:08:01.199
And was she a handwritten card?

01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:04.639
And when I got that in the mail, it said, you know, I never get asked about chicken nuggets.

01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:05.440
Wow.

01:08:06.239 --> 01:08:07.519
And now you don't eat chicken nuggets.

01:08:07.599 --> 01:08:09.119
And now I don't eat chicken nuggets, yeah.

01:08:09.280 --> 01:08:16.239
Wow, you and she wouldn't talk to me now because I'm conservative and you know You don't think there'd be any way that she would eat it up to come sit down and talk to you?

01:08:16.399 --> 01:08:17.039
I mean, you never know.

01:08:17.279 --> 01:08:17.840
No, no way.

01:08:17.920 --> 01:08:21.359
She's you know how she is, she's so particular about who she's gonna let interview her now and stuff.

01:08:21.439 --> 01:08:23.039
She's not coming on a turning point USA podcast.

01:08:23.279 --> 01:08:34.319
I was so bummed the last the when she announced her album, she was gonna do she did like six radio stations in in you know BBC New L or London and then of course Z100 New York and not us.

01:08:34.399 --> 01:08:39.680
And I was so bummed because she used to we used to be part of that, and now but she's yeah, she's something else.

01:08:39.840 --> 01:08:41.279
So you happy with Travis Kelsey?

01:08:41.359 --> 01:08:43.279
Do you have you caught yourself watching a football game?

01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:44.720
Oh, all the time, yeah.

01:08:44.880 --> 01:08:49.199
Yeah, watching watching the games, looking for Taylor, and so happy for them.

01:08:49.359 --> 01:08:50.960
I think that he's perfect for her.

01:08:51.119 --> 01:08:54.720
I think she there might be a little bit down the line.

01:08:54.880 --> 01:09:06.640
I could see her struggling with like just wanting to have kind of like a creative person to uh, you know, what she had with Maddie Healy.

01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:08.479
I think that's why she felt like they were soulmates.

01:09:08.640 --> 01:09:11.199
And so obviously she's like, she felt her and Maddie Healy were soulmates.

01:09:11.359 --> 01:09:11.600
Oh yeah.

01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:14.000
This is what the oh, this is what Torture Poets Department is all about.

01:09:14.239 --> 01:09:16.560
Oh, I thought it was about the other guy, the Alwyn guy.

01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:19.520
No, this is that's what's shocking about this album.

01:09:19.680 --> 01:09:29.680
There's like a handful of songs that are about Joe, but all most of that album is about Maddie Healy, that he was she he was who she wanted to be with the entire time she was with Joe secretly.

01:09:29.920 --> 01:09:30.319
Whoa.

01:09:31.359 --> 01:09:34.000
So what do you think you said you you did so you did this Patreon thing.

01:09:34.159 --> 01:09:35.359
So where do you think the wedding is?

01:09:35.439 --> 01:09:36.720
What's your what's your theory on the wedding?

01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:47.119
Well, right now, and I mean this is uh other people who are reporting this, but the rumors that are swirling are that it's gonna be in Rhode Island and not at her place at a venue there, like maybe the breakers or something.

01:09:47.520 --> 01:09:58.000
Um and rumors, again, who knows, but that she had paid off some brides that she really wants the date of June 13th in Rhode Island, and so she uh was paying off brides that had their weddings.

01:09:58.079 --> 01:10:03.119
They're like, hey, I'll pay whatever wedding you want, anywhere you want, and your honeymoon, all covered by me.

01:10:03.279 --> 01:10:05.439
Just pick a different venue in a different day.

01:10:05.680 --> 01:10:07.119
Um, don't know if that's true.

01:10:07.199 --> 01:10:10.239
But if she ends up getting married at like The Breakers Rhode Island, then we'll know it was true.

01:10:10.479 --> 01:10:13.199
Who's your favorite interview you've done so far on your podcast?

01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:14.640
Oh, that's so hard.

01:10:14.880 --> 01:10:15.600
I know, I know, I know.

01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:16.560
I hate that question.

01:10:16.880 --> 01:10:22.159
I because every uh like year that I've podcasted, it's different.

01:10:22.800 --> 01:10:24.159
Which one's left an impact on you?

01:10:26.079 --> 01:10:28.399
Since so should we stick with Since I've Rebranded?

01:10:28.560 --> 01:10:28.720
Sure.

01:10:29.119 --> 01:10:30.319
To health and wellness?

01:10:31.279 --> 01:10:35.760
I think I mean one of the best is Callie Means.

01:10:35.920 --> 01:10:36.479
Oh yeah.

01:10:37.279 --> 01:10:39.039
Every time you interview him, he's so good.

01:10:39.119 --> 01:10:40.479
You've got to talk to him if you haven't.

01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:44.399
He is just so good at breaking down all of this corruption.

01:10:44.720 --> 01:10:48.560
Um, and you're like on the edge of your seat the whole time, and he says stuff, you're like, you're you're kidding.

01:10:48.640 --> 01:10:48.800
Yeah.

01:10:49.119 --> 01:10:51.039
Um, so I love him.

01:10:51.199 --> 01:10:59.680
And then I would say I interviewed one of the first episodes I did in the rebrand was uh actually a local raw milk farmer.

01:10:59.920 --> 01:11:02.319
And that interview is still one of my most popular.

01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:02.880
Wow.

01:11:03.039 --> 01:11:14.720
Um, he was just so good at explaining, you know, what's wrong with the dairy industry and and the benefits of raw milk, and he cried at the end talking about how much he loves his daughters and Jesus, and like people just like loved this man.

01:11:14.880 --> 01:11:17.600
I mean, he was like the perfect American farmer to interview, I guess.

01:11:17.680 --> 01:11:20.720
So um that interview did really well, and then my Dr.

01:11:20.880 --> 01:11:23.760
Bryan artist nicotine episode went crazy viral.

01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:24.960
People are obsessed with that.

01:11:25.279 --> 01:11:26.800
With it, so what's your take on that?

01:11:26.880 --> 01:11:28.880
Have you seen the zins, the thing people chew?

01:11:29.279 --> 01:11:34.159
Yeah, I mean, he swears by patches and and pouches and all of that.

01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:36.800
Um it's kind of supposed to be good for you, right?

01:11:37.119 --> 01:11:38.560
Nicotine to a certain degree.

01:11:38.880 --> 01:11:39.760
That's what he says.

01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:41.600
Now, different people say different things.

01:11:41.760 --> 01:11:44.239
Max Lugavere, if you know who that is, he disagrees.

01:11:44.479 --> 01:11:49.600
He's a big health and wellness podcast and does a lot with the brain and dementia and Alzheimer's and stuff.

01:11:49.840 --> 01:11:51.199
He says, like, this is garbage.

01:11:51.359 --> 01:11:53.600
And then you have people like Brian that are like adamant.

01:11:53.680 --> 01:12:07.199
And I mean, when I did this interview talking about the benefits of nicotine, I I had thousands of people in my audience that are like, I have been dealing with debilitating pain or or I had no smell since COVID, all of it's back, or my you know, my pain is gone.

01:12:07.439 --> 01:12:11.039
Things like that, that they've tried everything and nothing would work until they did the nicotine patch.

01:12:11.359 --> 01:12:11.680
Wow.

01:12:11.920 --> 01:12:13.279
Have you interviewed Hyman?

01:12:13.439 --> 01:12:14.479
Uh not yet.

01:12:14.640 --> 01:12:17.119
He's also on the list of we're trying to work out a date.

01:12:17.199 --> 01:12:18.720
So hopefully, because I'm obsessed with him.

01:12:18.960 --> 01:12:20.880
Well, you work on a date for him coming here?

01:12:21.039 --> 01:12:21.199
Yeah.

01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:23.119
Uh oh, I like to work on that date together.

01:12:23.199 --> 01:12:24.560
Maybe you do my podcast yours.

01:12:24.640 --> 01:12:33.119
I was walking through the airport one time, and that dude, he's coming up the stairs and he's on, he's wearing like Jesus sandals, he's got a scruffy beard, and he's on his phone.

01:12:33.359 --> 01:12:35.680
And I walk up to his go, oh my god, a diamond.

01:12:35.840 --> 01:12:37.760
And he looks at me and goes, Yeah, I go, I'm a big fan.

01:12:37.920 --> 01:12:39.279
I want to have you on my radio show.

01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:40.880
And he gives me his cell phone number.

01:12:41.039 --> 01:12:41.199
Nice!

01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:44.000
He goes, I'm on the phone with my wife right now, and he goes, Hold on, here, call me.

01:12:44.079 --> 01:12:44.880
And he gives me his number.

01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:45.760
He goes, Text me.

01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:47.359
And I text him right there in front of him.

01:12:47.439 --> 01:12:48.479
And I go, I just text you.

01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:51.439
And I get on the plane, text you back, and he goes, Okay, great, we'll plan on it.

01:12:51.520 --> 01:12:52.560
And I haven't followed up yet.

01:12:52.720 --> 01:12:53.600
Yeah, you need to do that.

01:12:53.680 --> 01:12:54.800
He's really, really cool.

01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:58.880
And um uh I would say he was a really neat person to meet.

01:12:58.960 --> 01:12:59.439
I love Dr.

01:12:59.520 --> 01:13:02.159
Will Cole, he's one of my favorite people in the space.

01:13:02.239 --> 01:13:02.399
Dr.

01:13:02.479 --> 01:13:06.079
Josh Axe is so nice, and I love, love, love Gary Breca.

01:13:06.239 --> 01:13:08.880
Yeah, um, just probably one of my favorite personalities I've met.

01:13:09.039 --> 01:13:12.960
I'm surprised Josh Axe didn't talk about how the stem cells fixed the problem.

01:13:13.439 --> 01:13:15.760
I need to have him back on and and then ask him about that.

01:13:16.319 --> 01:13:17.119
When did you talk to him?

01:13:17.199 --> 01:13:19.520
Because I mean, there was a point where the dude was last January.

01:13:19.680 --> 01:13:21.920
This last this January, January 2025.

01:13:22.319 --> 01:13:25.760
That's when he did the speaking tour in Cabo when I was there with him.

01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:26.960
I'm gonna have to ask him about this.

01:13:27.039 --> 01:13:28.720
I'll text him and I'll be like, what's the deal with this?

01:13:28.960 --> 01:13:29.680
Should I be doing it?

01:13:29.920 --> 01:13:30.960
Yeah, totally.

01:13:31.119 --> 01:13:32.239
Um, what about Peter Atia?

01:13:32.479 --> 01:13:33.279
Are you familiar with that guy?

01:13:33.439 --> 01:13:33.600
Yes.

01:13:33.760 --> 01:13:35.520
Have anyone he was just on 60 Minutes?

01:13:35.680 --> 01:13:37.920
I think he's him and I are supposed to be doing a podcast swap.

01:13:38.159 --> 01:13:39.680
Wow, that's huge.

01:13:39.840 --> 01:13:40.720
That guy's awesome.

01:13:40.880 --> 01:13:41.199
Yeah.

01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:42.800
That guy's awesome, man.

01:13:42.960 --> 01:13:44.159
Wow, that's gonna be big.

01:13:44.319 --> 01:13:45.920
He was just on 60 Minutes yesterday.

01:13:46.640 --> 01:13:48.000
Oh, I'm gonna have to watch that.

01:13:48.399 --> 01:13:48.880
It's great.

01:13:49.119 --> 01:13:49.600
It's great.

01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:51.199
He's so fascinating.

01:13:51.600 --> 01:13:54.079
Well, anyway, listen, thank you for being on my podcast.

01:13:54.479 --> 01:13:55.439
Thank you for having me.

01:13:55.520 --> 01:13:56.159
This is so fun.

01:13:56.319 --> 01:14:01.920
I love that you know, we have so many interests in common that you're in radio, and um, I love what you're doing.

01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:04.239
And I obviously have known about you my entire career.

01:14:04.319 --> 01:14:08.479
So it was like when you had asked, I was like, told my team we have to make this happen.

01:14:08.640 --> 01:14:09.520
Like, I really want to do this.

01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:10.800
Thank you.

01:14:10.960 --> 01:14:12.640
You know, it's funny you bring up Kid Craddock.

01:14:12.720 --> 01:14:17.039
I I feel weird saying this, but we my Rich, my partner, and I, we actually just won.

01:14:17.119 --> 01:14:18.319
So Kid Craddock died.

01:14:18.399 --> 01:14:18.720
Yep.

01:14:18.880 --> 01:14:25.680
And they created an award uh for the the all the morning shows vote for what they think is a favorite morning show, and we just won the most recent Kid Craddock Award.

01:14:25.840 --> 01:14:26.319
Congratulations!

01:14:26.960 --> 01:14:28.399
Won it last year, of course.

01:14:28.640 --> 01:14:30.399
Mojo won it the year before that, and we won it this year.

01:14:30.720 --> 01:14:31.920
Yeah, Mojo's a legend too.

01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:32.479
So cool.

01:14:32.800 --> 01:14:33.520
This is like so cool.

01:14:33.600 --> 01:14:36.720
It just feels like another lifetime that I got to do all this and I was in the world.

01:14:36.880 --> 01:14:37.600
And I'm such a fan of yours.

01:14:37.680 --> 01:14:38.399
It's so cool that you can't.

01:14:38.479 --> 01:14:40.319
I couldn't believe it when you when they they said you were coming out.

01:14:40.880 --> 01:14:41.520
For real?

01:14:41.680 --> 01:14:42.079
Yes.

01:14:42.239 --> 01:14:42.560
Wow.

01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:44.000
Anytime, I'd love to come back.

01:14:44.159 --> 01:14:44.560
You would?

01:14:44.640 --> 01:14:44.880
Yes.

01:14:45.039 --> 01:14:45.680
Oh, good, good.

01:14:45.760 --> 01:14:46.720
Well, we'll have to do an update.

01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:47.920
Well, thank you, Alex Clark.

01:14:48.079 --> 01:14:48.319
Thank you.

01:14:48.479 --> 01:14:49.600
Take a hydrogen water.

01:14:49.680 --> 01:14:57.520
I will okay, so welcome to our podcast.

01:14:57.760 --> 01:15:04.159
This is a little bit different today because this podcast is a spin-off of our radio show.