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Okay, so welcome to our podcast.
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This is a little bit different today, because this podcast is a spinoff of our radio show.
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This is my podcast.
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Right, this is the John J Van Ness podcast, and this is the first time, before I introduce our guests, that my wife Blake is going to co-host with me.
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Oh right, because we've got Regina and Rick Steele.
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You have a new book out and is it okay to cuss on this podcast?
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Yeah, it's your podcast.
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I wanted to ask that too.
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Because, I mean, the book is called.
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Mother ask that too, because I mean it's.
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The book is called mother fucked, mother fucked the anti-perfectionist guide to surviving and thriving in the chaos of modern motherhood.
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Wow, and it's not a parenting book it is not a parenting book, absolutely not, no.
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When?
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I read the whole thing, what your book was I was like, oh my god, she's gonna, she's gone through this stuff.
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She's gone through this stuff because you're a mother of three girls we have, uh, two girls and one boy, oh, and then my older stepdaughter, who's 24.
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She basically takes care of herself now, but and she is a mother of three boys oh yes, so I know the three.
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Thing and rick.
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So before we get like really get into the meat of the book and stuff, I think there's there's an interesting little connection the four of us have of stuff.
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I think there's there's an interesting little connection the four of us have.
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Right, I met you, rick, not that long ago because I was at jesse itzler's house in rome, georgia, and I was doing saunaing and I was doing and I met this great guy, and this great guy says to me you got to meet my friend rick, and so you and I are connected.
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Uh, you know, jesse, yeah, right, she just got back from jesse's house in Connecticut, just a couple of days ago.
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I did the mastermind.
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Oh, very cool it was the coolest thing ever.
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Like like I came back feeling like I expected it to be like kind of a networking thing, but it was so, not like that.
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We made relationships, we pushed ourselves.
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I did Hell on the Hill 15 times.
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Thank you very much.
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That was amazing.
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And yes, jesse has never met a stranger.
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He's the coolest guy.
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He's just genuine nice, smart.
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I enjoyed him so much.
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I call Jesse the best curator of people I've ever met.
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He is impeccable at just bringing the right people around him, but when you're you're, how many people were there?
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20 or 30?
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It was like 40 people there, wow so but you felt like family when you left right, because that's the way it is with hell in the hill.
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Every year we go and there's 150 people, and all of these people we consider great friends, except for we see them most of them once a year.
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Yeah, once a year.
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But Matt, I think, is who connected yeah you know I've had, I've seen matt seven times in my life.
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Six have been at hell on the hill right yeah, but yeah, it was such a.
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She was telling me how you know it was at the house.
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He just let people in their house walk around oh you, he, there was no rules.
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I mean, he was like people were walking around his house and he's upstairs and people stayed there and he was, you know what, at the end of the day, like he doesn't have to do this, like he can run off into the sunset and go travel and do what he wants to do.
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But I think he genuinely loves connecting people, like you say, and I walked out of there like vibrating on a higher level, so I feel like, oh my gosh, I can go do my business now and I've met some wonderful people that I've been communicating with the last three days and yeah amazing.
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And then also with your book.
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Isn't he somehow tied to it?
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Or does his wife write something in your book?
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Well, no, so I just know Jesse through Rick, because when I went to hell on the hill the first time actually, I'll let you know the funny story that got edited from the social media platforms because of sarah thank god for her but um, the first time I succeeded in a hundred hills, I started getting sick in a trash can and they have it all on hd camera over me with his phone recording it and Sarah comes up to him and says you're going to take that off your phone right now, Jesse, yeah.
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Yeah, wow.
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So yeah, but that, yeah, we all just know each other for hanging out and everything.
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I'm really good friends with Leslie, who's, I mean she was there.
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Oh, she's amazing.
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In fact, I was saying that he needs to have her on.
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Yeah, Leslie's amazing Because.
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I want to eat so that I don't have to wear sunscreen.
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That's my big goal from Leslie.
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Yeah, leslie is the vegan chef.
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Yeah, I want to eat clean enough where I don't have to wear sunscreen.
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Yeah, and she's so great and I've met so many amazing people through them as well just going to Hell on the Hill, and then people will just reach out to us because they know rick has done all the insane things with jesse insane dude.
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I know some they're crazy well, and jesse and i's relationship began the same way.
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Really, it's like the way jesse reaches out to people, or really the way I reach out to people as well, which is, like you know, kind of like a nerdy.
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Hey, do you want to hang out?
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Like you know you remember doing that as a kid but, we don't do that as adults right and you know, you, you, when you lock in on somebody you know you'll be friends with just go for the ask, you know.
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Say yes or no right.
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And it was a yes.
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And then you know, now I find myself every time the phone rings before I have an answer.
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If it says Jesse on it, I look at Regina and I'm like all right, get ready to clear the calendar for something.
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It's always something like that how long have you two been together?
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Four or five years.
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He said you been together five, four or five years.
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He said it right.
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The other I.
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I messed it up on our anniversary.
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That was totally my bad.
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I was a year off where we have been.
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We have been.
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We've been married since 2008, and so that's uh 17 years, and we've known each other now for 21 years yeah, wow, so tell us about mother fucked.
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Oh, what a great title by the way, can I say something real quick here?
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the title's okay.
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Because this morning I had breakfast with, I think, your friend, Kurt Warner.
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Oh yeah.
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And he said tell John Jay.
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I said hey, but as I'm presenting this book to him, somebody across the table says hey, rick, tell Kurt about your book.
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And I'm like I don't think I can say this around Kurt, but we're going to go for it, I'm going for it, right?
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And he immediately locked in and was like I love it, my wife will love that She'll be, all over that I made him buy the book right at the table Did you really yeah, that's awesome, I'm going to get them on the podcast?
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Yes, you do.
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He's a great people, great human being.
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I'm so glad he liked the name of the book.
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Didn't say it, brenda will say it.
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Yeah, he was fun.
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Yeah, so what inspired you to write?
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this book and what's the general consensus.
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So for me it actually was a bunch of nudging from a lot of people, in particular this guy.
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So I've been a health blogger for about five years and that actually started because I went to an integrative health school, got certified, only to help myself with my health issues, because after I had kids, most of us don't really know what the heck is going on inside our bodies.
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We're just told by doctors oh, you need these prescriptions to make yourself more balanced and you know, figure this out.
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And I witnessed my mom and a lot of other women go through like the ups and downs of doses on antidepressants and I was just not really having that.
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So I literally threw a prescription, slip away, went to an integrative naturopathic doctor and I sat in the office with that one person for an hour and 15 minutes and my mind was blown and I said there's a whole other world I had no idea existed.
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So that's kind of where it started.
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And then I got introduced to IIN, which is where I went for school.
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My cousin sent me a link because she knew I was getting really into the research of it and I went through that just to heal my complications, which were a lot of autoimmune conditions and a lot of health issues.
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So it started helping me.
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But then I noticed a lot of autoimmune conditions and a lot of health issues.
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So it started helping me.
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But then I noticed a lot of my family and friends were asking me for advice, which most people don't come to me for advice.
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So I was like, okay, there must be something here.
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So I started, like you know, giving a lot of people advice, helping them out, creating plans for them, and I was like, okay, maybe I should become a coach, cause I didn't want to become a coach.
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I'm like, nope, totally not me Not going to be a coach, not at all.
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But, um, I I eventually became a coach and once I started writing the blog and everything, he was like you have enough blogs to write a book?
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He's like why don't you write a book?
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And I'm like because I don't write books.
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She doesn't have blogs to write.
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I don't write books, ten books.
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Yeah, and is it all based off of your own like was it gut issues, is it?
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It's everything, it's everything.
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It's everything.
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And it was interesting because the amount of moms I discovered I was helping, that's where I was like oh, maybe there is a void here, because I have so many moms asking me for help that you know they're actually coming to someone who's not a doctor, who's not considered an expert in any way, shape or form.
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They just want something simple, something basic, because their life is already full of crazy chaos.
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They don't want a 50,000 step plan.
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You know that's going to cost them ridiculous amounts of supplements.
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They just want something so simple and it's like that's kind of what I've created.
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Something simple so simple.
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What's a?
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What's a?
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A resolution or an answer for somebody that has a problem?
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Well, if they, especially autoimmune conditions.
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I help with a lot of autoimmune conditions.
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We start with nutrition and a lot of BS is thrown out there about nutrition and it's all false.
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It's completely false, like you know.
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Even listening to Leslie talking about food, it's individual, Like.
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The very first thing I learned is bio-individuality is we are all completely different people, like.
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Not any two of us are going to be identical on what our needs and wants are, so you have to figure it out for yourself.
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So I kind of put women through somewhat of an elimination diet, but it's not really an elimination diet, it's just removing processed food from your diet and eating real food.
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It's that simple.
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It's like what is a whole food?
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It's something that doesn't have to have a label, that's a food, that's food, food.
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Try eating that instead of all the stuff that comes in a box or a bag and a lot of people don't believe it because they're like.
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It's so simple, like this too simple it's like no, that's, that's how it is.
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Like try it, and then people expect it to be overnight because we're brainwashed into thinking, oh well, well, pills help you automatically.
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So if this doesn't help me automatically, then whatever, I'm not going to do it anymore.
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But it's like it's taking you how many years to destroy your body.
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Give it six weeks.
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Wow.
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See what happens.
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And it's amazing what happens in six weeks.
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You know my son who's over there he will not put anything bad in his body, Thank God.
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So we just over the weekend.
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He drinks raw milk, right, and he gets it.
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So we found this place that sells raw milk and then I was talking about it on my radio show and so this woman messaged me and she's like did you guys ever get a hold of the raw milk?
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And I said what's up, what do you got?
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And she tells me about a all in and she goes and I can deliver tea for 25.
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I'll do it.
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So saturday morning and I stay away from bread.
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I'm trying to, because you know, bread's the enemy, my sister's always told me, and I'm trying to stay in shape, lose weight.
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But they brought uh, we bought this bread bagels and english muffins that were made that morning with just the basic raw ingredients, like starter and whatever I don't know how to make five ingredients.
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Yeah, whatever, yeah and and they brought the milk raw milk in bottles, like from like back in the old days, oh yeah and uh, and some yogurt and some cheeses and some jellies and peanut butter homemade peanut butter.
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So it's 8 am and I usually fast, I don't eat till one but I was scarfing down this bread and I was just ready for the bloat and to feel terrible and I didn't.
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It was bizarre.
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Then we went to a wedding that night and I ate bread and I felt that book.
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I was like I've been eating bread like crazy, I'm gonna feel good and but you know the difference.
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It was a totally different experience and I didn't get congested like when I drink normal milk.
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I can't breathe.
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This raw milk stuff was just fine well and it's funny like it's like when people go to europe I eat all the bread and eat all the cheese that I want and I don't feel horrible at all.
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And it's like if I eat it here, forget about it.
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Because you look at the ingredients list and it's completely bonkers.
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Like I always tell people rule of thumb when there's a label under seven ingredients and if they have ingredients on there that look like it came from a chemistry lab, chances are it was made in a lab, so don't eat it.
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Like it has to be a whole food ingredient.
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So it's like if you know where the flour is sourced, that's even better.
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It's like we buy local noble bread.
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Like he loves the sourdough.
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They're so good, so good.
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Same thing those are farmer's markets Same thing.
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Yeah, same farmer's market, same thing same thing.
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It's a few ingredients, very few ingredients.
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They're on.
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They have like a simple ingredient list on their packaging and it's, they tell you exactly what's in it and it's funny.
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That's why, like, so many people are like homemade is better, it's like yeah, because you know exactly what's going to go bad in like four or five days which is what you want to do, right?
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yeah such a good point yeah well it.
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It's funny because John Jay's dad came over from Holland and he said one of the biggest surprises for him when he came from Holland was that you go to a supermarket and you buy groceries, because his family would buy groceries every two to three days, exactly what they needed for those days.
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So they had.
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The eggs weren't ever in the refrigerator and the bread and everything we're talking about it was just fresh, yeah, easy.
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So did you cure your problems.
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Almost all of them.
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The only one I still have to work on is Hashimoto's, and that one's pretty tough.
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That's thyroid right.
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Yeah Well, actually, no, hashimoto's is just autoimmune, so it attacks your thyroid, but it is part of your immune system.
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Autoimmune, so it attacks your thyroid, but it is part of your immune system.
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It does impact your thyroid to where it can trigger hypothyroidism, which a lot of women don't.
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Just they don't know about that.
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Um, so I actually figured that one out because I did my own research on it you diagnosed yourself I.
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I kind of diagnosed myself, because even my first naturopath didn't directly diagnose it.
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She found my thyroid issues but I was like, yeah, there's something else going on here.
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So I actually picked up the book by Isabella Weintz which was Hashimoto's protocol, and I was like this is exactly what I have.
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I knew it like right when I started reading it and once I started in like integrating her protocols, I started to feel way better.
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So I only had to do hormone therapy for probably two years and then I weaned off of it and then I haven't gone on it since.
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I had my explant surgery, which was pretty awesome.
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Wait.
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So hormone therapy, is that testosterone, estrogen?
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No, I just did HRTs, so it was just the replacement therapies.
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So I was doing armor thyroid.
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Oh, armor thyroid.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, besides the food, what other things do you suggest for women to do?
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Like I, I, I, um, I feel like we're exhausted all the time.
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Yeah, like from when the kids were really little, even now, like they're older and they're self-sufficient, but I feel like I'm so tired from the things that they require of me now at their age.
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Yeah Well, the biggest problem I would say that women don't really want to confront is that we are alone, and that's one of the biggest problems that so many women hate to confront about themselves is that when we are alone, we don't have those communities.
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Like.
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I grew up in a multi-generational house, so my mom had the help of my grandmother.
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She was part of a church, so the church helped out.
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We were part of a youth group.
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We were doing things to where my mom was not the organizer of my entertainment, my sports, my like.
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My mom did not take care of a lot of that stuff.
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She was there, but she had the help of so many women that were also helping her.
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They were her village.
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And that's one of the biggest things I talk about in my book is that we are such a neglected and isolated demographic of moms in today's society because we have this brainwash effect that we have to do it all alone.
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And if you don't do it alone, you're a weak mom.
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And that's kind of what I've gained from just talking to a lot of moms is it's like you have to show this macho-ness about yourself as a mother that you can handle it.
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You can handle the pressure.
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You can handle the stress, even though what kids do nowadays.
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When I think back to what we used to do as kids, it's like my parents were hardly involved in any of my extracurricular activities.
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And now it's like and you come home and it gets dark.
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Yeah, we weren't allowed to come in until it got dark.
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Yeah, there was no, and they never knew where we were Like, where we were like, we have that 360 app.
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We're tracking our kids all the time.
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Right, you know what I mean.
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Like I know when they they're in college and I know when they go to bed at night because I can see oh kemp's on emerson, oh jake's in his apartment.
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It's so terrible, but I'm like I have peace when I know that they're yeah, same for me with our kids ride their bikes and, like our kids, we're gonna go to target and I'm like they'll ride their bikes.
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You know, go through four intersections and bikes and everything, but I'm always on, like my fine mile, like right, they made it.
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They made it to target we're not in the news.
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I love it when you say you're multi-gen.
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What nationality are you?
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Italian okay, see, I'm half also half mexican.
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Yeah, it's very mexican very family, yeah, yeah, hey, I I'm gonna make a a weird statement, but I feel that I can cure your autoimmune issues.
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Give it to me, let's go.
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It's going to be today, let's go.
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You know what?
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I'm going to give you the key to it and I'm going to say it's the stem cells that I was telling you about, oh yeah.
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So autoimmunity.
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There's many autoimmune diseases and a friend of mine he's 34 years old he has had pancreatitis and ulcer colitis, which I think are autoimmunes, since he was 16.