15-Year-Old Recker Eans Now Pop Star — Here’s How!

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Okay, so welcome to our podcast.

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This is a little bit different today because this podcast is a spin-off of our radio show.

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We just start and talking.

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We just go.

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So thanks.

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Thanks for jumping on my podcast.

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So I was gonna say so uh I don't really like um do a lot of research, you know?

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Okay.

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I just kind of like start to like talk and find things out.

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Yeah.

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But because you are very young, right?

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What are you, 15?

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Yes, I'm 15.

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So I went to your Instagram yesterday and uh I was I was there was just so much information on Instagram and I got mad at myself because I was like, man, why did I do that?

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I just want to find things out about you, but because I was nervous because you're 15.

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Yeah, and then I saw in your story something that I was like it it pumped me up.

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And I was gonna ask you about this on your stories, but I was gonna ask you about your dad because I saw the video where you were like driving and you're like all excited to come home and see your dad.

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Oh my gosh, yes.

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Right now, I'm a dad of three boys.

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So for me, it was cool to see you excited to see your dad.

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Oh yeah, and then when the driveway opens up and your dad's like cool with tattoos and stuff, I was like, this is real, I can't wait to get into this.

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So tell me about your relationship with your dad.

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I mean, yeah, so basically I'll give you the whole rundown.

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We've been in LA for six months, seven months now, just working, and my dad's been home.

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He's a firefighter, and he's been basically affording for us to live out there because me and my mom bought a place out there and we've been working out there, and she's there with me.

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And so my dad has to pay the bills and stuff.

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So my dad works from home and I haven't seen him in like forever.

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I stop by in Arizona like every once in a while.

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I'll come for like my brother had a baby, and then we came home for Thanksgiving, and now we're here for Christmas.

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So, like, and but it's like really quick, and I this is like the longest time I've been home for like a long time, and so it's just I love my dad so much.

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He's like my hero.

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Like, he's taught me how to go out into the world and be a gentleman and be respectful and like work hard and get what you want, and like yeah, I just yeah, he's the best.

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I love my dad.

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So it was it was cool, like, and he always he loves how do I put this?

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Like not overdo things, but you love to like get like there was for an example, like we went to a gas station one time, and like without me even asking, he got my favorite candy.

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Like he'll do things we you don't even have to ask.

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So, like he goes the next level.

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So, like, we got home and did he made that whole entire paper thing.

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He did the lights, he did everything, and like he did that for me and my mom.

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He didn't have to do that, he did it though.

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So that was you and your mom coming home together.

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Yeah, that was me and my mom coming home together.

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What is your favorite candy for the gas station?

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Ooh, my favorite candy.

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It changes a lot.

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So, what did he get you that day?

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I think it was a Snickers.

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I think it was a Snickers.

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So, in a way, though, he's contributing to your tooth decay.

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So maybe that's not so great.

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Yeah, unbelievable.

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Justin, can you pop down with us?

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Can you sit down?

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Sit up, set up, sit up, set up.

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Because I think I guess I I got a lot of questions for you, but also the dad point of view.

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Heck yeah.

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Right?

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So check, check, check.

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Yeah, you're in, brother.

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How did that make you feel when you saw him?

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When you I mean when you saw that video, like yeah, it's it's super sweet.

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I mean, you know, you don't do things for you know to get recognition.

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Like, that's just who I am.

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Like, I like doing things for my kids, my family.

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Like how many kids you have?

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Uh three.

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So um his brothers are my stepkids.

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Uh-huh, they're 28 twins.

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One just had a baby, one just got married this year.

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Oh, wow.

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And then Rex's doing his thing.

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So it's been a a crazy year.

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Um, but no, I mean, that's probably why like I'm a firefighter, that public service thing.

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Like, I like giving back.

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Everyone loves a firefighter.

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Yeah, you know where a firefighter for who?

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Uh Tempe.

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Oh, for Tempe?

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Yeah.

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My nephew-in-law is a firefighter for Phoenix.

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Okay.

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And my son, my my son when he was 21, he really he was gonna go wanted to be a Marine, then he wanted to be a firefighter.

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So they took him on a on a ride, on a ride-along.

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And I think in one day he saw it all.

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Yeah.

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Wow.

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Like, I guess you know, it's he went on a fire, he went on a car accident, he went on whatever, and he was yeah, he was pretty traumatized.

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That's kind of how I was.

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I went the first day and I I raced BMX growing up, and so did like the X games a couple times, and like all I was doing was riding my bike and just thought life was good, and then I did a ride-along and saw it was a crazy day like that.

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Right.

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And in my head, I go, people are dying everywhere.

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Like, I need to learn at least CPR.

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Yeah, I get triggered, and like that weekend I found a CPR class just so I had it.

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I was like, Man, I'm kind of naive to the world here, you know.

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And then it just then I started going to school for that stuff.

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But how long have you been a firefighter?

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20 years.

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Are you from here?

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Yep, born and raised.

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Where'd you high school?

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Ironwood, and then I graduated from Mountain Ridge.

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Oh, right on, man.

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Claremont or Chandler.

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Channel I'm not okay.

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Okay, so how did this happen?

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Like, how do you get how do you I've seen the videos you play in the drums, I've seen, I've seen so much I want to get to, but how how do you get to where you are?

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How do you what like when did you start?

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Yeah, so basically, music has been in our household forever.

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Like we've been a music family, like he said, he's X Games like BMX, like our family's been extreme sports, and with goes with sports, goes with music.

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So we've always been listening to that stuff, and for my fifth birthday, I asked for a drum set.

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I don't know why.

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I've we've been to concerts forever, but I just wanted a drum set for my fifth birthday.

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And that day kind of changed my life.

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I practiced every day.

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I he found this place called School of Rock.

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I started taking lessons.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, I learned the guitar, bass, I learned how to play keys, I learned how to sing, kind of, and then now I know how to sing.

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But um, yeah, I that day, like I just don't know what clicked in me.

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I've been to live shows, like my mom, when she was pregnant with me, like she would take me to shows, and she said like I'd be like kicking and stuff.

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So I feel like I've always had rhythm and just music in me.

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And I feel like that was like my way of expressing myself.

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Are you a drummer?

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Like, do you say you're a drummer?

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Yeah, I I say I'm a drummer.

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So you did take drum lessons?

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Yes, I took drum lessons.

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Because I saw you going to town in one of your videos, and I was like, dang, dude.

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We got the kit, and then I was like, all right, if I'm gonna have this noisy instrument in the house, like let's make sure we know how to play it.

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Right.

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And he was pretty much a bat, like hold a rhythm, and I was like, all right, maybe he's got something here.

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And then the school at the time didn't take kids that young.

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Oh, yeah, this is actually a cool story.

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So, like, sorry.

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No, you're good.

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But um so polite.

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School of rock, we went there and yeah, they didn't take kids.

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I was five.

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They were like, we don't take kids that young.

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And my dad was like, Can you just try it?

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And the guy was like, All right, we'll just do like a trial lesson.

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45 minutes later, I come back, and they're like, Yeah, he's good.

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And now every school of rock takes kids from that age and beyond.

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So I kind of started like the Is School of Rock the Alice Cooper thing or the other one?

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There's two different things.

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That's right.

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School of Rock did a so we do a we do um, my wife and I have a dog rescue.

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We do this huge festival once a year, and we have big bands play.

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And this is the first year that a month ago we had uh three bands from School of Rock play, open up the act the whole show.

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That's awesome.

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Yeah, it was it was a pretty big that's really good we had gym class heroes, um we had who else?

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Oh, that was the one uh did you work with Katya?

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Yeah, yeah.

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Um Riot Knight.

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Yeah, yeah.

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She's a great friend of ours.

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She's awesome.

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She is?

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Yeah, she's uh he's played Riot Knight, her venue, the show that she puts on at Rock Bar.

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Oh yeah, Rock Bar.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So she's the best.

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I've played that place a couple of times.

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So are you serious?

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Yeah, she's great.

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It's funny because he'll be in there and like everyone's obviously drinking over age, and he's this I mean you played what at like 11 or 12, and people are like they would walk in and they're like, why the hell is there a kid here?

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And then I just wait, and then he jumps up on the stage.

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But are you just drumming or are you?

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Yeah, so I did like a DJ set.

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I would drum, and me and my producer Shay, we would come up with it's like uh we take like a bunch of like the emo songs and then pack them into one thing, and I would just drum over them.

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And then I would hop on the guitar, play guitar for one song, and then I hop back on the it's a really sick show.

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Are you still doing that?

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Or you've evolved now because you're in LA doing stuff?

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Yeah, kind of.

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Oh, I would have loved to have seen that at Rock Bar.

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I definitely haven't like grown out of it, but it's definitely like on to the next thing, wherever the wind takes me.

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Because rock bar, they also they do fundraisers for our dog rescue.

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Okay.

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They have like the the Eagles, the Philadelphia Eagles have got a club and they do whatever they're once a week and they raise all this money for our dog rescue.

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That's so cool.

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And uh man, I and man, that's wild that you're there all the time.

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I can't wait till my wife's gonna be so excited.

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So now you're in LA.

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Like that that had was there a conversation?

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Something happened to be like, like you're like, hey, we gotta get him out to LA for him to launch to be what he's gotta be.

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Everyone always starts with in LA, right?

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Yeah, and it wasn't even like we went out there, it was just projects came up.

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So he was on the Disney show working with Selena Gomez Wizards Beyond Waverly Place.

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Was that the the one 10 years later or whatever?

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, so uh he was a guest star for four episodes on that.

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And then we had been in talks with this producer who was putting this band together since like March, and then that just kind of came to fruition right when that show ended.

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And so they started their boot camp for that band um for like five, six months.

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That's the thing I I think I saw you playing or talking about the single or playing a clip of it on your Instagram, right?

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So what's the band called?

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JYT, just your type.

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Okay, good.

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Is that is there anybody involved in that?

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Yeah, so it's me and four other boys, it's a boy band.

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Um, it were assigned to Republic Records, and we're signed to uh this producer by the name of Freddie Wexler.

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He's done he's like a multi-platinum producer, and he basically put this band together, but also we kind of like chose each other.

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So like we all like mutuals, like everybody kind of recommended each other.

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And um, yeah, it's been like six month boot camp and just yeah, it's crazy.

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Is any of it being filmed?

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Yeah, it's not is it gonna be a show?

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It's gonna be a docu-series, yeah.

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On YouTube, yeah, because you know the um the Simon Cowell just dropped that one.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And you know, it's funny, without knowing I was gonna talk to you.

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I was talking about this.

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Nothing against Simon Cowell, but I watched it and I was like, I don't think this band has it.

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Like One Direction, you could tell that band had it.

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Yeah, and the hook to your song, I liked it a lot.

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I was like, and plus you've got he's got a thing, you know it.

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He's got a thing.

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You got a you got it, you got the you got the X factor, bro.

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You got well thank you.

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But plus I'm a little biased.

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I mean, yeah, you know, he's got it though.

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Plus, you can't deny uh or look at you know the the Bieber comparisons, right?

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You get that must get that a lot.

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I get that a lot, yeah.

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We were his first interview, Bieber's first interview ever in the radio was on our radio show.

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You're joking.

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No, we're we're actually in his first movie.

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That's amazing.

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I know, I know.

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That's so cool.

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And then he we had him on the phone, and then he came in and he broke his leg.

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So he was in pajamas and he had a cast on his leg.

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I remember that.

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I've seen pictures of that.

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He was like 16.

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He came into our studio and hung out, and then same with Selena Gomez, too.

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We had her on bat many, many times.

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Wow, that's so cool.

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Yeah, Bieber's choreographer is their choreographer, Nick DeMura.

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Yeah, really?

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Nick DeMora, yeah.

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He um so yeah, we've been working with Nick DeMora this entire boot camp, and he was Justin's choreographer and dancer and creative director.

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And so he's been like teaching us and getting a bunch of his buddies in, and Jay Blaze, who's Chris Brown's choreographer, and Tucker Barkley, who's done Janet Jackson, and like a bunch of people, Britney Spears.

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So he's getting like all his buddies together, and they all worked with Justin on like purpose tour and stuff.

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So you got all the parts, right?

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It's crazy, yeah.

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The people they're working with and songwriters and stuff.

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It's crazy.

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So where in LA are you guys?

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Um, we're in North Hollywood.

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Uh huh.

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Um, is it Burbank?

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Yeah, right on the North Hollywood Burbank area.

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Have you been there?

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Do you have to go out there a lot or every once in a while?

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I try to go as much as I can.

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Do you guys bought a place there?

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Well, I mean, signed a lease kind of partners.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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And so then is it every day you're doing stuff with the band?

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Every day.

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Wake up, dance for like six hours, do singing, record in the studio, do interviews, do like music videos, like everything.

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When's the song officially come out?

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Though, so what you want is out now.

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It is.

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It's out now, and then we have a new single coming out, end of January-ish.

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JYT.

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JYT, yeah.

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Just your type.

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Yeah.

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That's are you loving this?

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It's awesome, man.

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They got the swagger.

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It's it's a funny transition.

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It's cool because you know, he grew up in like the punk rock metal world and he's played with all these different bands, toured.

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He's got songs that he wrote and produced with different artists that kind of are the spectrum like hip-hop.

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He did stuff with futuristics that's from Arizona, um, dropout kings that were from here.

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Yeah, like trap metal stuff, um, sorry X, um, Authority Zero, Jason Zmoore did a song with him.

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And so it's like such a transition going into like the pop world, you know, and singing and dancing and stuff.

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So I we kind of talked about it.

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I was like, be prepared.

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You're probably gonna get some haters that are like, dude, where's the drumming thing?

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And I go, I was 15, it was like, do everything.

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I was talking about it.

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I was like, I've never in my entire life would I chose to be in a boy band.

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I would have never chosen that.

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And like me, I've always been the person uh to like set goals, and this is actually not good, but like I've set goals and like I have to do it by this age, this, this, and I've kind of just like let that go and be like, I'm just gonna go wherever it takes me.

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And it's like, I in my eyes, everything happens for a reason.

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So like I get this call and come out to LA and be a part of this project.

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Well, let's see what this is about.

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And if it feels right and I go with my gut feeling, then it it it then it's right for me.

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So, like the people that like my true fans, and I was going through some of my comments um the other day on like a post I did, and like people were like, I'm your day one, like I've been here, and I'm I'm like, I appreciate those people that like have gone through the journey of like heavy metal drummer punk rock, and now he's in a boy band.

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Like, that's the other end of the spectrum, and they're still with me.

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So I think that was like the most important part I was trying to get across, like that I really appreciate those people that like have just like me, not what I do.

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Like, they just like me as a human being.

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Um, but you also got to be prepared for the haters and not pay attention to them because they're gonna no matter my dad used to tell me, no matter how big you get, people always want to bring you down.

00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:15.759
Yep, you know, but also you know, enjoy it too.

00:14:15.840 --> 00:14:18.000
Yeah, so you say you have your goals, did you write them down?

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Or yeah, I have I have a journal, I write my goals down, I write my goals down for the day, and I write my goals down for the week, and I write if I did my goal for the day and what I need to work on.

00:14:28.159 --> 00:14:28.960
Where'd you get that from?

00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:32.799
Uh my mom my mom was like, um, she had this notebook.

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She was like, because LA, the industry in general is like, it's a it's crazy, it's an insane place.

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Like I I've been in the industry for a while, but not like this.

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And you lose yourself.

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Like you get caught in things and you're like, what is happening?

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What is happening with me?

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What is happening with them?

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Like I've learned so much in the past six months than I have in my entire life.

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And so you lose like track of like what you really are here for.

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And so my mom was noticing it, and she was like, Here's this, you need to sit down and journal every day.

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And I was like, Okay.

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And so I started doing it, and I I feel like it's really helped, like setting goals.

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It's incredible.

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The fact that you're doing it at 15 is fantastic.

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It's gonna be a game changer for you, especially when you write down your goals and you oh yeah, you start hitting them and you start seeing it works.

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Oh yeah, it keeps myself in check.

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Like I noticed, I think I've been doing it for like I think I've been doing it for like five months now, and I noticed like two times I didn't hit my goal, and I was like, damn it.

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Like I was so upset with myself.

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But um, then the next day I'm just gonna get right back to it.

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You're so well spoken for 15, right?

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I mean, have you talked like that at 15?

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No.

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I mean, I was like, yeah.

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I've definitely learned it from him.

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He's I like I said, he's taught me everything.

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So is my mom.

00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:51.440
What about school?

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Are you going to school?

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Yeah, so I I'm this is the first year I've been homeschooled.

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I've been to public school my entire life.

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I love school.

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I love learning.

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And so this was the first year that I was like, I can't go to public school anymore.

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I'll get in trouble.

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So I had to go to homeschool.

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I had to do online school.

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I'm still enrolled in the school here, just on the online version.

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So, which is cool.

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I s can still go to like dances, games, and stuff, which I would love to.

00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:18.159
Um, I haven't yet.

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Are you playing any sports?

00:16:20.080 --> 00:16:20.879
Um, for fun.

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Nothing.

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But I would assume the exercise is the dancing, right?

00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:24.639
Oh my gosh, yeah.

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But they still hit the gym.

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It's cool.

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All the kids live in the same complex.

00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:27.840
Oh, they do?

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And so like they'll go to the gym either before they go and whatever.

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Yeah.

00:16:31.759 --> 00:16:35.679
So well, you would assume that just judging by other people, I mean, your path is your path.

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You're you're gonna go your own path.

00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:42.799
But but the way you look at it, it's like the boy band and then the breakout.

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Yep.

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Right.

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And it's uh I don't know if you put that in your goals, but oh yeah, I mean, I could clearly see you doing a solo thing too, which it's it's I mean, it's a great story.

00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:52.559
I would love to.

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I mean, I've oh yeah, that's kind of my dream.

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I feel like the boy boon would just be like a stepping stone.

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Yeah.

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And totally from 15 to 19 or 15 and then you go solo and then you do stadium tours.

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Like, are you watching the Taylor Swift documentary?

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Have you seen it yet?

00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:11.519
No, I have not, but I've seen I've like seen it on Disney Plus the advertisement.

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I have to watch it though.

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She's dropped four episodes, I've seen all four already, and I think it's episode three.

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It starts off, and you probably have this footage.

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It starts off I mean, her being a little like opening up the present and it's a guitar.

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Yeah.

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And then you see her strum in it, and she's like five.

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He has the video and you open up the drum set, and I'm like, what?

00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:29.759
Right.

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And then you see like Bieber's last album.

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I think he sampled himself in the album playing drums when he was like four.

00:17:35.279 --> 00:17:35.759
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I was gonna ask you about that right there, that whole beat thing.

00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:43.440
Yeah, because you know, when I I I've been talking to Tyler, our producer, for a while about you popping on, right?

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He was telling me about you, and I was like, that'd be cool.

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Let's get some drums in here, right?

00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:53.680
And then and then I thought, uh, hopefully I can talk to you again because I did I had a couple surprises for you that I was working on.

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Um, one being, you know who Frankie Muniz is?

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Yeah.

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Frankie was in a show called Malcolm in the Middle.

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He drives to NASCAR now.

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Yeah, he drives to NASCAR.

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Really?

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He he also but he made a bunch of movies, Cody Banks.

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He did, he was a huge child star.

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Huge child started.

00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:11.359
Yeah, really.

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He was and a lot of child stars crash and burn.

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Yeah.

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He didn't.

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Part of that is because of his dad.

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He says a lot of his dad.

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And he moved to Arizona and he moved down the street from me.

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So we play basketball every once in a while.

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But one of the things he did, um, he got it, he became a drummer in a band.

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And he and the band toured around the United States, and he was it was a lot of fun watching the band play.

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And now he's got I think they're doing a Malcolm in the Middle of Revival and he drives from NASCAR.

00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:42.319
But I at one point I thought it'd be great to get him in here and talk to you because he he stayed clean.

00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:45.839
Yeah, he's never sipped technically alcohol, yeah, he never did drugs.

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In fact, he has a tattoo, it says zero on his arm because he's done zero bad things.

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Um, but he's a hell of a drummer.

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Yeah, that's awesome.

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I don't know.

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Surprise with this.

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Then here's the other surprise.

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That was one surprise.

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And now that I say it, it will probably never happen.

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This next one is a long shot.

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This is a long shot, but I set up two friends of mine, a guy and a girl, on a date.

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Right?

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They hit it off.

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They're all, I think they're engaged, they live together.

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Her brother-in-law, so I look at it like she owes me a favor.

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Her brother-in-law is Lars from freaking Metallic.

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Yeah, and I thought I had it all in my head already.

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Like he would be standing behind a curtain over here.

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We have drum set, and I talked to you about it, and then he'd come in and so I was, but uh that's a favor I gotta pull.

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But hey man, I set you guys up.

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That's right.

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Right.

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Got one in the bag, man.

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Yeah.

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Pull that card.

00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:34.480
So who have you met so far in the in the famous world?

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Obviously, Slime Gomez.

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Yeah.

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Um, well, I have to go back.

00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:40.480
The kids to Night Show days.

00:19:40.720 --> 00:19:41.519
Yeah, that's true too.

00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:43.519
Yeah, when I did the Kids to Night Show years ago.

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Kids to Nitro Kids in Nitro?

00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:46.400
The Kids Tonight Show.

00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:47.519
Oh, the Kids Tonight Show.

00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:49.839
The Tonight, the kids version of the Tonight Show.

00:19:50.079 --> 00:19:50.880
Well, then what was that?

00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:52.319
That was like a Jimmy Fallon thing?

00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:56.319
Yeah, I worked with Jimmy Fallon for like two months, and we had a place in New York.

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It was on Peacock.

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They did like 20, 20 some episodes, and it was a rock.

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Rockefeller Center every day for work with my mom.

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Were you the host?

00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:05.920
Yeah, I was a co-host with a bunch a bunch of kids and we interviewed a bunch of select.

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Three other kids.

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They actually got nominated for an Emmy.

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Yeah, that's how I have the Emmy nomination because of that show.

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Is it does it exist anymore?

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It's still on there.

00:20:13.359 --> 00:20:14.799
Yeah, it's still just one season, but yeah.

00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:17.279
Like why wouldn't they do it again and again and again?

00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:20.240
Just didn't do what they needed it to do, I guess.

00:20:20.480 --> 00:20:22.559
I don't think they promoted it very well because I've never heard of it.

00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:28.480
Well, I think what the issue was was they put it on a network that was just starting.

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They should have done it on NBC, but when P when we released that show, Peacock was just developing.

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You're right.

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So it wasn't really a big platform everyone was calling it.

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COVID was just kind of coming to an end, but there were still all the restrictions.

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So it was very good.

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We were on set with shields and masks and everything.

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Oh man, they should redo that, man, because that's a great idea.

00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:51.119
Oh, it was set was candy, and we interviewed a bunch of celebrities, Kristen Bell, Matthew McConaughey.

00:20:51.440 --> 00:20:52.079
Oh, no way.

00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:53.680
Um my God.

00:20:54.079 --> 00:20:57.119
But was it like you were the Jimmy Fallon, or there's several kids that were there?

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Several Jimmy Fallons.

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I was like the Jimmy Fallon and Questlove.

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I played the drums on the show as well.

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Oh, yeah, this cool custom like jelly bean kit that SJC drums made for him.

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So he was in the corner, the other kids were on the couch, and then they would kind of take turns and split off.

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Interview questions.

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Interview, and then they would play games with the host for the guest.

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Did you keep in contact, like I mean, with the Jimmy Fallon type of person?

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Or did you?

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Oh, I mean Yeah, mom still talks to his sister.

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Yeah, we still talk to Jimmy Fallon's sister, and um, I still talk with one of the co-hosts.

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We play like Oculus together, so yeah.

00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:32.480
And they were on the Tonight Show twice, once to promote it, and then they brought the kids back for like a Memorial Day or something.

00:21:33.039 --> 00:21:34.480
Um they did like a hot dog.

00:21:34.880 --> 00:21:36.079
Madonna walked right by me.

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He was like so tiny, and I was yeah, it was crazy.

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And then um Batman and Michael Keaton.

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Michael Keaton was there.

00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:43.839
Wow, it was crazy, yeah.

00:21:43.920 --> 00:21:44.640
Um bunch of people.

00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:46.319
You said you said Madonna and who else?

00:21:46.400 --> 00:21:47.599
Oh uh Bummer Pump.

00:21:47.839 --> 00:21:49.839
Uh that's a guy that you connect with, Ryan Tetter.

00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:50.720
Ryan Tetter, yeah.

00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:51.920
I actually genius.

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Fun fact, he he wanted to audition me for another boy band.

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Oh, really?

00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:58.079
She wanted to audition for with him and Scooter Braun.

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They wanted to, and I was like, I'm already in this one.

00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:02.720
So you had already signed up with this band?

00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:03.039
Yeah.

00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:03.839
That's nuts.

00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:04.079
Yeah.

00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:05.039
Bunch of kids got it.

00:22:05.279 --> 00:22:06.480
Some of the other kids in the band, too.

00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:07.839
They were trying to audition everyone.

00:22:08.319 --> 00:22:10.880
What made you got what made you lock in with JYT?

00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:12.000
Like and Republic?

00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:14.000
I mean Was it Republic putting it together?

00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:16.160
Freddie Wexler was putting it together.

00:22:16.319 --> 00:22:17.839
Well, Freddie Wexler sounds familiar to me.

00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:21.759
He's done Selena, Justin, Gaga, right.

00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:25.279
Yeah, um, Blackpink, Jonas Brothers, like everyone.

00:22:25.519 --> 00:22:29.599
God, so you're surrounded by uh oh my god.00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:31.359


Well, what made you pick them?00:22:31.599 --> 00:22:34.240


Like what what what made you say yes to that group of people?00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:36.559


So yeah, um, this is actually a cool story.00:22:36.720 --> 00:22:42.160


I was on a I was on a Disney project, and I can't, I mean, I could talk about it now.00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:44.160


It was the Mickey Mouse Club, it was the reboot.00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:55.599


Um it never got picked up, but we did a pilot, and we were waiting for it to get picked up, and we got the call from Freddie, and we were literally driving six hours from our flight got canceled, and we were like, we have to go to this meeting.00:22:55.759 --> 00:22:58.640


We drove six hours from Arizona to LA to go meet this guy.00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:01.039


Three it was supposed to be a three-hour meeting.00:23:01.440 --> 00:23:03.440


I think it was like an hour, and it turned into four days.00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:04.559


It turned into four days.00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:06.640


Isn't that this is crazy?00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:12.079


So then our flight gets canceled, we're driving, I'm going, I have to sing for him, so I'm like going over my song, blah, blah, blah.00:23:12.720 --> 00:23:16.160


We get there, as we're driving there, I get the call that it didn't get picked up.00:23:16.400 --> 00:23:22.400


And I'm like, that's crazy that the day it didn't get picked up is the day a new opportunity, a new door opens.00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:26.720


So I'm like, I was I was sad, but I was like, this is happening for a reason.00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:42.160


Hang up the phone, get there, I meet the guy and his wife, and we sit down in his lobby, and he like sits in the chair like this, and then he like gives us the whole story about like his entire catalog.00:23:43.279 --> 00:23:44.160


This is Freddie Wexler?00:23:44.319 --> 00:23:48.960


Yeah, this is Freddie, and I feel like we just kind of like fell in love with him.00:23:49.039 --> 00:23:58.000


Like he he just had like this like natural chemistry about him, and I would just I kind of was like, this guy's cool.00:23:58.240 --> 00:24:00.160


It's one of those things from an honest perspective, right?00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:02.079


Like you're putting your kid out in this element of things.00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:07.440


So like as parents, we were just like, eyes wide open, take everything with a grain of salt.00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:10.240


It's like I don't want to like this guy, right?00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:10.559


Right?00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:12.480


Because I don't know what this whole thing is about.00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:20.640


And like any parent would do, you try and vet somebody, you know, it's like, hey, contact everyone we know, make some phone calls, like find someone to go.00:24:20.799 --> 00:24:24.240


Freddy's great, but and no one could give us a butt.00:24:24.559 --> 00:24:29.119


Everyone's like, solid dude, great guy, you know, well respected in the industry.00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:29.519


Yeah.00:24:29.680 --> 00:24:32.640


So it was like having that that vibe and the connection.00:24:32.799 --> 00:24:37.359


And like he said, it was just kind of a it was yeah, I mean you just go with your vibe thing.00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:39.920


So you didn't did you have to audition for JYT?00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:49.680


I actually honestly I never really auditioned for the So you're in the band, and then do do they does Freddie go, here's my 35-page contract, take a look at it.00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:51.200


It was more like 500 pages.00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:53.599


It was yeah, well here's the thing.00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:57.200


So we we we meet this guy, and I'm like, okay, this guy's cool.00:24:57.279 --> 00:25:00.240


He's like, all right, so let's go in the studio, let's have you sing and hop on the mic.00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:10.160


So I sing him, I sing just raw for him, and then I hop on the mic and he gives me the song, and then I sing it, and he's like, his whole entire team's in the studio, and they're like, dude, what the heck?00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:13.839


Harvey pops by the head of the Grammys, the CEO of the Grammys.00:25:14.079 --> 00:25:15.279


Oh, um Harvey Mason.00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:16.640


Harvey Mason, you know where he's from?00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:16.960


No.00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:18.400


You played basketball U of A.00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:21.440


I was gonna say, and then I think he didn't he didn't he say he had a place in Scottsdale?00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:23.119


Yeah, he's I mean he's an Arizona guy.00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:25.039


He so I got nominated for a Grammy.00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:25.359


I got it.00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:27.279


And this was like a month after we were at the Grammys.00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:32.160


So we ended up, he walked into the studio and he had his Grammy stuff on, and I was like, hey, that was a great show.00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:34.880


And he was like, huh, you know, kind of look at me and I go, yeah, Rec was nominated.00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:37.519


And then he went in the booth and they were chit-chatting and stuff.00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:38.160


So it was just kind of crazy.00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:43.200


I literally was singing and then he walks in, and I'm like, I was like, he's like, oh, nice to meet you.00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:44.880


I was like, dude, I was like nominated for a Grammy.00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:45.680


Blah, blah, blah.00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:47.039


We were talking, it was like crazy.00:25:47.119 --> 00:25:49.359


It all happened so fast, and then that day ends.00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:51.279


I get into another writing session with the guy.00:25:51.359 --> 00:25:52.319


I'm riding with him.00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:54.160


I'm like, I really like riding with this guy.00:25:54.240 --> 00:25:56.960


Like, he listens to my ideas, blah, blah, blah.00:25:57.039 --> 00:25:58.720


And then he's like, All right, can you stay another day?00:25:58.880 --> 00:25:59.200


Boom.00:25:59.359 --> 00:25:59.920


Stay another day.00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:01.119


I take a dance class.00:26:01.359 --> 00:26:02.480


Can you stay another day?00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:03.519


Okay, I stay another day.00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:04.799


I gotta fly home.00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:05.440


You guys can stay anything.00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:07.519


Yeah, so he flies, he flies home.00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:16.880


Me and my mom were there, and then he's like, All right, it was awesome meeting you guys, we go back, and then he should I say like the solo stuff?00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:19.759


No, I mean, yeah, it was just a mix of like, I'm not sure.00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:21.759


He, you know, he always has tons of projects going on.00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:24.880


He wasn't sure if I was right for the boy band or if I was better solo.00:26:25.039 --> 00:26:26.240


He was trying to figure it out.00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:29.119


And then eventually we got to the point where it was banned.00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:31.200


So we were like, great, yeah, let's do the band.00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:35.839


He had all these the the kids in mind that he felt like let's see how they click together.00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:42.000


So a couple of weeks they would went out before we kind of got into the boot camp side of things, like, let's just bring them out and go have fun.00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:46.160


Like let's go play pickleball and you know, just bond with the kids, yeah, go have dinner.00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:55.279


They took them to a Lakers game and like just did stuff to see how they interacted with each other and made sure they clicked as friends rather than just go, this is the person that you're you know working with.00:26:55.920 --> 00:27:04.720


It's wild because the the story you're telling is like it's like it feels like it's one of those like later you'll be looking at life in this incredible path that was like meant to be.00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:05.279


It's insane.00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:06.559


I mean, Harvey Mason Jr.00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:10.079


popping in and talking to you, the head of the Grammys, after you were not nominated for a grand.00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:11.119


I mean, it's crazy.00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:15.759


It's like your your resume right now is like destined for massive greatness.00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:16.720


It was insane.00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:23.680


I honestly like I never really realized it until I got back to Arizona, and I'm like, Jesus.00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:25.119


Like, but you're only 15.00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:30.880


You don't even the fact that you do realize that at 15 blows, and people are gonna eat it up that your dad's a fireman.00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:32.480


Oh yeah, they're gonna eat it up.00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:33.279


That's huge.00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:34.880


That is so huge.00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:36.319


Everybody loves a fireman.00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:39.039


Laura, Laura, some people don't have anything to worry about.00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:39.680


I love you.00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:44.480


Some people don't like cops, you know, some people don't like the military, but everyone loves a fireman.00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:45.279


It's very true.00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:50.240


So when you go back there and the guy, I I so you know, I've been in radio a long time.00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:56.079


Yeah, and a lot of times artists come through that are that they work in a single, you know, like Katy Perry.00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:58.400


Katie Perry comes in and they were like in a conference room.00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:01.039


She's like, oh hey, Katie's gonna, we're gonna, I'm gonna sing for you something.00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:03.119


And it's like I always felt so awkward for them.00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:07.680


You're in a room with 10 people and they're singing, or like different people that come in and they sing, right?00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:08.960


Yeah, was that weird for you?00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:12.559


Did you so you had to obviously show that you can sing, so you had to sing in front of like four people.00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:16.880


Well, yeah, I got in the studio and he's like, All right, this is a song I've been working on.00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:20.640


Just in the studio though, wasn't ever like forget it, was never like in the lobby or something.00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:22.000


Well, it was initially.00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:23.759


Yeah, initially I sang.00:28:24.079 --> 00:28:28.319


We had our meeting, went into the studio, but not like recording or anything, and he was like, Well, do you have something prepared?00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:28.799


You want to sing?00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:32.400


So I stand up and I sing a Bruno Mars song, and I just sing it raw.00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:34.079


And then he's like, That was amazing.00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:38.319


He was like, Go into the studio and let's put you on the mic and see how you sound on the mic.00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:41.920


Because you can sound very different live and very different on a mic.00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:43.200


It's it's weird.00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:49.200


So put me on the mic and I start singing, and then people are just coming into the studio.00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:53.759


There's probably 10 people at near the end, and I was like, What is happening?00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:57.519


The meanwhile, this is the first time I've ever been singing in a studio.00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:02.319


I've been in many, I've been in many studios in my entire life drumming, writing.00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:04.000


Maybe you've done like guitar vocals on the guitar.00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:12.480


I've maybe done gang vocals on the album, and but first time I've ever sang, and I was like, this is crazy.00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:15.359


Um did it get you a singing coach or anything afterwards?00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:23.119


Like once we started boot camp and everything was set in stone and we got the and we got every kid, then we got the best vocal coach there is ever.00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:24.480


Which Bruno song do you sing?00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:26.000


Uh Talking to the Moon.00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:27.119


Oh, I didn't even know that one.00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:30.000


No, that's another Bruno came in and sang it for us in the studio.00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:30.799


He's amazing.00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:32.400


Yeah, but I mean, Talking to the Moon.00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:32.720


Yeah.00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:33.839


That's that's cool too.00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:35.440


You pull a song out no one's ever heard of before.00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:35.920


Yeah.00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:38.079


So you must be a hardcore Bruno fan.00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:38.720


Oh, I am.00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:39.359


It's funny.00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:41.039


You're like a song no one's ever heard before.00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:42.079


It's got two billion streams.00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:43.759


I've never I mean maybe I heard it.00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:44.720


If I heard it, I would know.00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:48.079


I would think, I mean, you probably would yeah, you'd probably talk to the moon.00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:49.200


Talking to the moon.00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:49.680


I don't know.00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:50.799


It's kind of close.00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:51.200


Yeah.00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:56.000


Well uh that's so I mean, I know I I know every the guy has massive songs.00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:56.400


Oh, yeah.00:29:56.559 --> 00:29:57.920


It's got two billion streams.00:29:58.079 --> 00:29:59.200


Yeah, no offense, Bruno.00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:00.960


If you watch it, I feel totally out of touch there.00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:01.839


Oh wow.00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:02.960


No, he's amazing.00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:06.319


I mean, it is one of his lower songs, two billions.00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:10.160


But when you when you said you were writing with someone and you liked it, how does that work out?00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:11.759


Are you sitting there with a pad of paper?00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:27.920


Yeah, so he we I he's like the this happened the next day, and he was like, All right, I want to do a writing session, go back in the studio, it's me and him, and then he invites his one of his other friends, and he's written a bunch of songs for Bieber and Ariana and a bunch of people.00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:32.720


So me and him sit in the studio and we're on the piano and he's playing chords or whatever.00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:38.319


And then I'm like, he's like, let's just start with these chords, blah, blah, blah, whatever.00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:45.200


And I'm like, change that one, and then I start writing lyrics, and then he comes up with a lyric.00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:54.720


I'm like, I like that, change that word, and then it was like a collaborative process between everybody, and we were like, I don't like that, play the C major, play this, like play.00:30:55.119 --> 00:31:03.359


It was like we were just figuring out everything, and we wrote a song, and I think it's crazy being behind the scenes watching that creative process happen.00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:05.519


I don't think people see it enough.00:31:05.680 --> 00:31:12.480


Luckily, like a lot of documentaries are coming out, and you get some behind-the-scenes footage, but a lot of times it's overlay, you know, with like music playing in the background that just showing it.00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:25.680


When you sit in the corner and watch these creative minds work and come up with something and things start clicking, and it's almost like drummers like beat in the pocket, and it's like stuff just comes together, and then you hear something, and you're like, it blows you away.00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:27.039


It's my favorite thing about music.00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:31.599


It's like literally you can just dive into another world and but you're so confident too.00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:36.960


Yeah, like I would think being 15 years old with these guys, I that's like intimidating, in insecure.00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:39.759


Like if they were to say, Hey, what do they think of this line?00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:40.960


I'd be like, Yeah, I love it.00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:42.400


But you're like, change that word.00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:42.640


Yeah.00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:44.720


And do they ever say, No, I don't want to change that word.00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:48.240


There was never any there was never any like shutting my ideas down.00:31:48.319 --> 00:32:00.880


There would be like, I'd be like, Maybe we can change that word, and he's like, Let's change the word, but keep this, and then correlate this with this, and it's like it's like hard to explain because it's almost like everything.00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:07.519


Have you ever seen the movie Soul?00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:08.240


Probably not.00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:08.960


Part two, right?00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:10.319


Yeah, yeah, yeah.00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:10.640


Yeah, yeah.00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:20.160


There's a part in the movie where he starts playing piano and everything blacks out, and then he sees like purple stuff, and like he's in like a flow state.00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:27.759


And that's like what it feels like, where you're literally just completely in the creative process and you're just open to any ideas.00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:31.119


Like the on the Kids Tonight show, I got great advice from Questlove.00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:34.079


He was like, put yourself in a bored situation.00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:36.000


He was like, when you're bored, your brain works.00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:46.480


He was like when you are in silence, or if you're just in boredom, he was like, Creative thoughts will start to come because your brain, your brain needs to do something.00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:51.279


So it's like you almost go into the state of just like letting ideas flow.00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:59.680


And then especially I love collaborating with other people because it's always like you get like reassurance, and then you also get like other ideas that you love.00:32:59.920 --> 00:33:04.240


So I think it was like really cool, and that's why I fell in love with like Freddie.00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:08.720


It was like we really meshed very well with our ideas.00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:12.160


So you're you're what you're you're telling me kind of reminds me of a couple things.00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:13.920


One is like when an athlete gets in the zone.00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:22.480


Yeah, um, and I used to do I used to live, I I lived in San Diego, but I'd go to LA and I was uh I would there's an improv troop there called the Groundlings, and I would do improv.00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:27.039


Your coach on uh Wizards, she works there at the Ground Lings.00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:28.079


Was she a Ground Link?00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:28.240


Yeah.00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:29.519


Who was it, Mindy?00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:32.000


Um on Wednesdays you do improv.00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:32.640


Sam?00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:33.039


Sam.00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:34.400


She's a groundlings coach?00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:35.039


Uh improved.00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:35.519


Yeah, she is.00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:38.079


Uh red, taller, redhead, super tall, redhead.00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:40.799


Well, I mean, I was there in 96 in 97.00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:43.279


So but I mean, but Mindy is still, she's over.00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:51.359


But so I was one of the things about improv is that you do your scene and then it's you're done, it's over.00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:54.799


But the funny stuff happens when you're running that stuff.00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:56.480


It's everything that happens afterwards.00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:59.359


Like you you you you got this idea and you do it.00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:00.880


And now, oh my god, we're done.00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:02.880


And then the coach is like, keep going, keep going, keep going.00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:05.440


You're like, uh I got nothing.00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:12.800


And then all of a sudden it's like you hit that black space, and then you just start things start coming out, and it's hilarious, and whatever.00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:15.519


But of course, that was 1996.00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:16.400


That's awesome.00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:17.199


I follow them on Instagram.00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:18.239


I love improving.00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:20.559


Yeah, yeah, that's it's an incredible troupe.00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:21.760


Yeah, it's in it's great.00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:25.199


Oh man, it's really helped me out with doing radio where you have to improvise all the time.00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:26.079


Yeah, you gotta be on your feet.00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:26.880


Yeah, that's awesome.00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:29.280


Well, so now how about this whole fashion look you got going on?00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:30.400


Do they do that for you too?00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:31.119


Actually, yeah.00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:31.840


Yeah, they do.00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:32.719


I'm not even joking.00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:34.719


Yeah, so we have Chris Brown's stylist.00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:35.280


Okay.00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:36.960


Um did they do this?00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:38.960


No, uh, this is just me.00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:47.119


Um, this these pants were from like I picked these out, and then there's just Conan and Amber Crombie.00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:47.840


This is nothing crazy.00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:48.320


It is?00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:50.639


Okay, but let me ask you this like and these are from Devon.00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:53.119


Devon Phillip, he's he's our stylist.00:34:53.199 --> 00:35:02.159


He's literally like the sweetest guy, but he we go into this guy's studio racks of just clothes, like it's insane.00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:07.119


And then he has this picture of Michael Jackson handing the crown to Chris Brown, which is I forgot to tell you that.00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:07.840


It's too crazy.00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:11.039


It's like a painting, and Michael Jackson gave it to Chris Brown.00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:11.920


It's like crazy.00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:12.960


What about your hair though?00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:16.239


My hair your stylus to your hair, or that's how you know that's that's me.00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:18.880


Like if you cut your hair, they wouldn't get what are you doing?00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:20.000


My mom would be like that.00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:21.840


No, but nobody the record label wouldn't.00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:25.199


Honestly, the record label wants to cut my hair, and I'm like, absolutely not.00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:27.199


And I'm like, you're gonna have to go through my mom with that one.00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:29.280


You why don't you want to cut your hair?00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:32.159


I think my hair makes me stand out.00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:35.679


Like, if I cut my hair the way they want me to, I would blend in with every other boy.00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:36.400


I don't know.00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:36.719


You know what?00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:40.559


I don't know, man, because that hairstyle, everybody your age has that hairstyle.00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:43.760


My son's 19, and he just cut his hair the other day, finally.00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:44.320


I don't know.00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:45.599


He's got something else about it.00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:46.639


Well, yeah, he's got something else.00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:47.679


And I just gotta cut.00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:51.519


Normally when I like let it grow out, it's like very shaggy and like very grown out.00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:54.159


Well, I mean, if you think your hair is your thing, then that's yeah.00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:55.360


I mean, remember Harry Styles.00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:58.480


Harry Styles had that one long, all that hair, people loved his hair.00:35:58.880 --> 00:35:59.280


Yeah, yeah, yeah.00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:00.480


That's good.00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:04.480


So, what about like you do you do the hair and makeup and all that stuff on the set?00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:07.760


Yeah, like we shot a music video and we had hair and makeup.00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:14.000


We had um Paris Hilton's hair, hair stylist, and then uh, yeah, so yeah, all that stuff.00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:14.719


What about you, Dad?00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:15.679


How proud are you of this?00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:17.199


This project you created.00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:18.079


It's insane.00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:33.039


I mean, we always have these discussions and check in with each other, make sure, you know, he's happy and like still feels you know, because so many people they make comments like, oh, you know, he doesn't have a childhood and all these things, like he's why is he working and blah, blah, blah, and all this stuff.00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:38.480


And I'm going, how many parents do you know that have their kids in traveling competitive sports that yeah, you know what I'm saying?00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:45.599


It's like you get them coaches, you travel with them, you give them the opportunities because that's where they show their passion and their drive and dedication.00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:52.960


And some kids crave like that competitive thing and the camaraderie and all that, and other kids have an entertainment thing that they're into.00:36:53.039 --> 00:37:01.920


And but I've told him I'm like everything he's done in the world, like I'm if it all went away, I'm most proud of who you are as a person and a human.00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:04.239


Because he's just a sweet kid.00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:06.800


You know, he just treats people right, he's well spoken.00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:15.519


Education's always been very important because even when he was doing stuff, you know, he toured last year like 130 some days on the road just as a hired gun as a drummer with other bands.00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:17.519


Like other adult bands?00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:22.960


Yeah, so we went out with unconventional kings, dropout kings, tech nine, did a bunch of different stuff.00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:28.000


And I was like, I can't go to bat for you at school if you're you know, C's and D's and failing classes.00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:33.119


So I was like, you gotta stay on top of school so that I can go in and go, hey, look, like this is his college, you know.00:37:33.199 --> 00:37:35.760


I mean, he's dealing with real real world scenarios, you know.00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:48.159


He's yeah, he gets to make money, but he's interacting with people, he knows how to communicate, he can look people in the eye, he's learning networking, relationships, you know, time management skills, all these things that you don't really get taught in school.00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:51.119


Is there someone that's kind of like outside of your mom?00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:54.159


Is there like a point person in the group with Republic Records?00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:59.280


Or is somebody they're like, okay, this guy or this woman is in charge of you now?00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:00.000


No?00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:01.519


No, it's still mom and dad.00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:02.559


It's still mom and dad.00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:05.519


That was very much actually that's what we've kind of made clear.00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:06.079


Oh, good.00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:06.800


Like to everybody.00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:11.119


That's been a thing in the the conversations that like one of us is always around no matter what.00:38:11.199 --> 00:38:13.920


I mean, even we go on tours, anything on set.00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:18.480


So you being his dad and he's 15, has he ever got in trouble for anything?00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:21.119


You as a dad got pissed off, grounded him, spanked him.00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:24.559


I mean, your teenage kids always piss you off sometimes, you know, and you're like, hey, whatever.00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:26.159


I mean, and it's it's silly stuff.00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:27.599


Something at school happens, you know.00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:28.559


Pants kids.00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:30.000


Yeah, you know, they're all dependent.00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:31.199


They're all dependent.00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:32.400


Well, they were all doing it together.00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:35.440


He's the only one that got suspended.00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:40.079


All the other kids You got suspended for pants and pants is part of life, man.00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:42.400


And they were all doing it, and Rec took the rap.00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:44.719


All the other kids lied, and he went in and told the truth.00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:48.320


So he got in trouble, and then all the kids were texting him from class, like, bro, where are you?00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:50.880


And he's like, We were all doing it, and I'm the one that to it.00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:56.000


I like in the in that moment, I was like so upset with myself.00:38:56.079 --> 00:38:59.440


And I got home and my mom was like, There's bricks out in the backyard.00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:01.599


She was like, You need to stack them all nicely in the thing.00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:03.679


I was like, That's what I'm talking about.00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:04.880


It's hard because okay.00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:06.239


I was like, I'll do anything.00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:07.920


And I was I just I did it.00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:12.079


I literally took me like out there for like five hours, just gloves on.00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:12.800


Moving bricks.00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:13.760


Actually, my hands were bleeding.00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:14.559


I didn't have gloves on.00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:16.079


Boof, brick, brick, brick.00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:17.440


I was just stacking all of them up.00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:17.840


You know what?00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:20.320


I mean, pantsing is a part of being a guy.00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:21.039


Not anymore.00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:22.079


Not in this world.00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:22.639


You can't huh?00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:25.039


You can't do anything anymore.00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:26.639


But he's on he's such a great kid.00:39:26.719 --> 00:39:31.760


It's hard to like other than just your normal little stuff here and there, like, he hasn't gotten in trouble.00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:32.800


What about vaping?00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:33.519


Have you done any of that?00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:35.039


Oh good, that's so bad for you.00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:35.920


That's what's cool.00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:39.119


Honestly, like him coming up in this industry, meeting so many people.00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:42.239


They have looked at him because they've been in that rock star life for so long.00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:49.280


And so he's meeting a lot of these guys that have been through it, and they've taken him under his wing, and they're just like, Don't do it, don't start, don't start your career this way.00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:50.800


You're gonna have so many opportunities.00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:59.199


And like, I've learned so much about like myself and where I'm like, I have no desire to do any of that.00:39:59.360 --> 00:39:59.679


That's it.00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:00.880


I have no desire.00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:05.599


I like I will see like not to throw my guys in the band into the bus.00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:06.719


You don't have to call them out.00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:14.880


But like I've been out with I people I've been out with, I will see things and I just see people and I'm like, none of me wants to do that.00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:15.280


Good.00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:15.760


That's really good.00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:17.280


I'd rather drink root beer.00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:19.199


That's that's that's fantastic, man.00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:20.000


I'm so happy for you.00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:21.360


No venues have root beer, by the way.00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:22.559


So if you're a venue, it's a root before.00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:26.000


And then I'm like, man, I gotta get him like a Red Bull before a show or something.00:40:26.079 --> 00:40:27.599


He just like needs a little something to pick him up.00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:28.079


You know what?00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:30.559


Yeah, I'll give you there's a good energy drink that's healthy for you.00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:32.480


Yeah, it's called Gorilla Mind.00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:33.280


Gorilla Mind.00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:35.039


Gorilla Mind, yeah, it's legit, man.00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:45.440


It's got it's like a lot of these, like uh Red Bull and these, and I mean this is no affiliation, it's just I they um whatever the minimum requirement is, a lot of these energy drinks put it in the vitamins.00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:48.239


This guy puts it all where so you benefit from it.00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:52.480


It's and you can get it at Vitamin Shop and they sell them a one-stop nutrition or online.00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:54.719


It's legit one-stop nutrition.00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:56.239


They have none in LA and I've been dying.00:40:56.480 --> 00:40:57.280


One stop's legit.00:40:57.360 --> 00:40:58.639


My son works, my oldest son works at one stop.00:40:58.960 --> 00:40:59.440


They're amazing.00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:01.679


We go to the gym and then we come back and I'm at the smoothies.00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:02.559


They're so good.00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:04.239


Do they so they don't have you working you're working out?00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:05.039


What about dancing?00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:06.239


Was that weird to learn how to dance?00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:06.960


Oh my gosh.00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:07.280


Right?00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:11.280


Dude, I mean you would think him being a drummer, you would have like some rhythm, and it was like, dude.00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:13.920


I would think like, yeah, coming.00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:19.679


I definitely I think part of me that like the fact that I yeah, I think can you do it?00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:20.480


Are you doing it?00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:21.440


Oh yeah, I can do it.00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:23.039


Yeah, so I I can do it.00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:26.960


Have they taught you the classics like the in-sync button?00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:34.079


No, they they've taught me like uh they taught us like Janet Jackson choreo that like Tucker did like in the 90s.00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:36.239


Like it was crazy, like super cool stuff.00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:46.159


But um they've taught us like old Justin Bieber choreo, but I mean it was really like we came in and was like basic, basic.00:41:46.320 --> 00:42:00.320


And it was like learn how to do this, learn how to do that, then we started doing choreo, then we started doing choreo to our songs, and then we had um, but yeah, you would think like me being a drummer with the rhythm, I'd be somewhat good at it, but I think that definitely helped.00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:03.920


Not as much as it should have, but I think it definitely helped.00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:07.920


Um, and then also having like the best choreographers and dancers in the world helped too.00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:08.400


That's true.00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:18.000


I mean, like this one of um this guy named Michael, Michael Wilson came in and he did the new Michael Jackson movie that's gonna come out.00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:20.239


He did that entire thing.00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:31.280


Um so he came in, and this was like the first time, it was the first time we were meeting him, and he was um not coming in for dance, he was coming in for like artist development.00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:36.079


So he came in and he's like, Everybody, get to the side of the room.00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:40.320


So we all go to the side of the room and we're like he's like walk.00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:43.360


And so we put he plays music and he's like walk.00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:49.199


And we start walking, and like the dan there's two kids, there's like three at the time Toby wasn't there.00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:51.679


So there was two kids that were like really dancer dancers.00:42:52.719 --> 00:43:01.360


And so they start walking like dancer-ish, and like like some of us like aren't walking like on beat and like other things, and whatever.00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:13.280


And so everyone starts walking, and he's like, Stop, stop! I said to walk, he goes, go back, and then we walk again, and everyone does it right.00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:20.079


And he's like, if you guys can't do simple instruction, he's like, I don't know what I'm gonna do with you guys.00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:21.599


That was our first impression of him.00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:27.360


He was like, All I did was tell you to walk, and so we did more exercises like walk on B, all this thing.00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:31.440


But he was like, he was unbelievable.00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:33.920


I've never met a soul like him before.00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:36.400


I'm not like religious in any way.00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:42.239


I'm not, I I'm like a very spiritual person, but I don't believe in I don't really believe in anything.00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:46.159


Um but he is like he's a gift.00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:50.719


He kind of like changed my life in that little bit of time I've known him.00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:53.519


And there's not many people in this world that will do that.00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:55.440


And he was just so brilliant.00:43:55.599 --> 00:44:00.320


Like he, one of the boys, um, he's a very walled person.00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:02.000


Like he doesn't let a lot of emotion out.00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:02.960


And we love him.00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:08.159


And he, Michael, like really was like digging deep and like getting stuff out of him.00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:14.880


And it was like we're in here for dance boot camp, but it's like we're really just developing ourselves as artists.00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:20.719


So I mean, the dancing and artists and singing, and like it the boot camp was insane.00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:21.920


Like it's it was crazy.00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:22.960


It's like a mix of everything.00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:24.960


Was it eight hours a day, ten hours a day?00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:25.840


Like six hours a day.00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:26.880


And then you got to go home.00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:27.199


Yeah.00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:28.639


Well, that's just the dance.00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:29.519


That's just dancing, though.00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:31.920


And then it's 10 plus hours a day every day.00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:32.400


Yeah.00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:34.079


And then is that over?00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:34.480


No.00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:35.519


Oh, it's not over.00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:39.599


But it's so at some point it's just it's just constant until you the album comes out, then you gotta go.00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:41.039


You probably gotta do a lot of press, right?00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:42.159


That hasn't happened yet, right?00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:53.440


We've done a little press for the what you what for the first single, and then um we shot a music video, and then when we come back for the new year, the new single comes out, and then but they probably gotta do some marketing behind that, right?00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:54.079


They are, yeah.00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:57.199


They've got we got a whole timeline for next year starting to pop off.00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:00.079


I mean, we got put on Sirius XM number one hits.00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:05.360


Oh, yeah, that's yeah, and then we got put on Billboard Charts, we got on Music New Music Friday.00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:09.280


Um, we were above like Olivia Rodrigo and a bunch of people, so it's kind of cool.00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:09.840


It was crazy.00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:13.599


Um have you already got the fan base starting to get a little freaky?00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:15.679


Yeah, it it's a it's a little crazy.00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:20.639


I mean, we've just started and the fans are kind of going crazy.00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:23.039


There's already fan pages out now, and that's great.00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:24.159


JYT diary.00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:24.800


That's great.00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:31.760


There's a so again, I keep bringing up Peter Swift because I'm watching this documentary and the way she treats people is fantastic.00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:33.760


Like I can see you you have that quality.00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:40.000


Um, but it's interesting when she's announced her tour, she started training six months before the tour.00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:41.440


And she would run eight months.00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:51.840


Yeah, I fun fact, I I knew I had a busy day the next day, so I was like, all right, I'm gonna get some rest.00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.880


And I was like, I'm gonna set my alarm for like 645.00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:57.519


I didn't need to be anywhere till 11.00:45:58.000 --> 00:45:59.840


So I set my alarm at 645.00:45:59.920 --> 00:46:06.079


I went down to the gym, I worked out, and then I ran like two miles and I just sang the whole entire time.00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:13.599


And I just sang and ran sweating and then I went to press and then did this, this, this, that, that, that.00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:21.440


And I think like the training, I've always we've always talked about this as a family, because like we go from project to project to project.00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:26.639


And in between that time, that's where the real work should be.00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:32.239


You never show up to rehearsal learning the stuff, you show up to rehearsal rehearsing.00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:37.360


So it's like you always should know your craft and know what you're doing.00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:42.639


And so that's always been like important to me, and like Taylor Swift, like working the six months.00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:44.320


That's why we're doing this boot camp now.00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:46.880


So we have all the tools in our toolbox.00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:54.559


So when things start to pop off, and we're playing summer camps and we're playing mall tours and we're playing proms, it's like we're ready, right?00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:55.760


And you gotta do that stuff.00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:56.400


Yeah, oh yeah.00:46:56.559 --> 00:47:03.760


You gotta I mean you'll see in in the documentary, Taylor Swift comes out and there's like nobody, she's at a fair and there's nobody on the audience or anything.00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:08.079


What's your favorite thing to do when it comes to singing, dancing, drumming music?00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:09.280


Well, what is your favorite?00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:11.840


Performing.00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:12.800


Performing?00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:13.679


I love performing.00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:20.880


So, but specifically, like if you could do it, like I've always thought, man, to be a drummer is so freaking cool.00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:21.199


Yeah.00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:22.880


Like being a drummer is freaking cool.00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:23.519


That's awesome.00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:23.920


Yeah, right?00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:25.679


It is, right?00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:42.079


But it's also like to me, like I I started doing this thing where I'm on the I mean, I'm trying to hit my 10,000 steps a day, so I'm on the treadmill, and I and I'm trying to play music that has great drums because I feel like I and I have a mirror right in front of me, so I'm like drumming, and I can see my arms, and I'm like, they're not there yet.00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:45.039


And I'm just like drumming is just the freaking coolest thing.00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:46.239


I need that little car symbol.00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:52.800


You've seen that one that plugs into your uh attaches to your vent, you know, it's a little crash when you're air drumming in your car.00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:54.800


What's the best drumming song?00:47:55.840 --> 00:47:56.880


There's a lot of good ones.00:47:57.199 --> 00:48:01.679


There is I'm got I'm kind of going through a Beastie Boys phase right now, and I'm a Beastie Boys is great.00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:02.800


Freaking sabotage.00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:03.440


Solid.00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:04.239


Solid.00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:09.679


I would say Song for the Dead by Queens of the Stone Age is unbelievable.00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:10.639


Dave Grohl.00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:13.920


Um is he your favorite drummer?00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:14.960


One of them.00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:19.760


Um any John Bonham drums are insane.00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:20.639


Yeah, of course.00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:21.199


Rush.00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:22.079


Rush is great.00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:24.000


I would say, yeah, Limelight's insane.00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:24.480


What's that?00:48:24.639 --> 00:48:25.920


That's on my treadmill workout.00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:27.519


Yeah, Limelight's great.00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:34.079


That's that's a good drum one.00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:37.360


Uh Naraforte by Slipknot is an insane drum one.00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:39.119


Kinda kinda good, kinda, kinda.00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:39.519


Like that.00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:41.039


Yeah, I mean, there's a line.00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:53.519


I've drummed on some of the songs, and the live show, like, will incorporate drums.00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:56.800


Like, there'll be like a dance break and I'll be on like a with JYT, you mean?00:48:56.880 --> 00:48:57.679


Yeah, I'll I'll drum tour.00:48:57.920 --> 00:48:58.559


So they have like your drum.00:48:59.039 --> 00:48:59.360


Oh, yeah.00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:01.920


I'll drum on that tour whenever we do that.00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:04.079


But can ever everybody play an instrument on that band?00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:05.599


Not everyone, but some people.00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:10.079


Like, um, I played the drums, Toby can play the piano, Brian can play a little bit of guitar.00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:11.039


So that's good.00:49:11.199 --> 00:49:12.480


I think they're gonna incorporate that.00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:16.960


But I have like my songs before the band, I played all the instruments.00:49:18.480 --> 00:49:20.079


Dude, this kid is just different.00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:21.360


Do you know what I'm saying?00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:22.320


We hear that a lot.00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:23.760


I mean, that's so crazy.00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:28.960


It's like it's so you're so well spoken, and you have so much know so much wisdom at 15.00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:29.679


I know, it's crazy.00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:35.679


I mean, I've been through every part, I honestly, like almost every part of the industry.00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:36.800


Like, I've been through a lot.00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:43.519


It's I've been at the back of sprinter vans trying to find something to eat, and then I've also been on private jets to Grammy parties.00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:44.800


Like it's crazy.00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:47.360


I've seen everything at just 15.00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:48.079


Yeah, man.00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:49.599


Stay away from them freak-offs, though.00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:50.000


Oh, yeah.00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:51.920


I was gonna ask you about this.00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:53.199


So here you are, firefighter.00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:56.000


You've probably seen some pretty horrifying things, right?00:49:56.159 --> 00:49:56.960


Yeah, we see it all.00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:01.760


So have you ever seen anything where it was like you're just mortified and it was it messed up your day?00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:07.199


Like, there's it's just something, and then get a call from him, and you're like, oh hey man, how's it going?00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:08.159


How was practice today?00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:08.880


How was training?00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:09.440


How was whatever?00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:11.840


And you got you've got this horrible vision in your head.00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:16.960


Yeah, it's such a weird, you know, just span of emotions at times, you know.00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:19.840


Because yeah, I mean, you can have a hard day, a hard call.00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:27.840


Um, you know, and up until they've been gone in LA, it was like you come home and you have them there at the house, you know, like they even took my pets, my dog, my brother.00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:29.199


He literally comes home.00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:30.480


Like, I come to nothing.00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:32.559


You know, I got to come home to nothing except torture.00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:34.400


Yeah, I know.00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:36.159


Oh, actually, I we just talked about that.00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:40.239


Laura was like, You should like do the volunteer and like foster a dog for a day when you're home.00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:43.039


I'm like, that actually sounds like you deliver it by yourself?00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:43.599


Yeah.00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:44.880


So literally by himself.00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:45.519


I mean he's not so much.00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:46.400


What's the most long time?00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:48.639


But you've been like is it a month by yourself?00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:58.159


Well, they've been gone since May, and then it's only been like a couple back and forth trips, you know, when they get time off, or I go out for like we get four days off at a time, so I'll try and pop out there when I can.00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:02.559


But I have to trade shifts with guys, you know, if they need time off instead of taking vacation.00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:03.760


So it's just it's gotta make sense.00:51:04.320 --> 00:51:09.599


Sacrifices, like this is why like I I posted an Instagram video.00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:14.639


If you were on my Instagram yesterday, you probably saw it, but like I was like, I'm talking about like how so grateful I am.00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:21.599


Like, there's not a lot of parents that will literally like sacrifice everything.00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:29.840


My parents have sacrificed everything for me, and like we it's always been like a team effort, and like he literally comes home to nothing.00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:31.440


My mom quit her job.00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:34.400


We're like trying to afford to live out in LA.00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:42.719


My mom, my mom, like we we're going through things where like my mom doesn't get to see what I do because I'm at work and like I'm there by myself.00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:44.000


Close up, probably too.00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:44.719


I get a 1-1.00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:55.599


I'm in rehearsal for six hours, and then I go in the studio, and like she gets to see like the end product, but she she's always been around for everything, and that's what's made it worth it for her.00:51:55.760 --> 00:52:00.639


So she's like, I get to see my son do what he loves to do, and I get to see the process.00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:05.039


And like lately, that's like not been able for her to do that.00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:10.480


So it's like, um But when it's over and you win your Grammy, you gotta remember them in the thank you speech.00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:15.440


Heck, oh yeah, you gotta have a no, it's always I'll probably rush the stage.00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:16.079


Oh yeah.00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:17.599


Where do you get the name Wrecker?00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:18.960


Like, where's that come from?00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:20.559


Dude, it just popped up.00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:21.119


It was weird.00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:30.239


We were going around names, his brother's names are Stone and Slater, and so we were kind of like, you can't just have like Bob or John, you know, it's gotta be something cool that has a good ring to it.00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:37.519


And then we had not too long ago had moved to Gilbert um when he was like two, and we didn't even know there was a street called Wrecker.00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:37.920


Oh, we've got to be a good thing.00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:41.920


So I don't know if like subconsciously, because then, but anyways, he was like, Yeah, yeah.00:52:42.239 --> 00:52:46.239


And both of my schools, my middle school and my high school are have been on Wrecker Road.00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:46.719


No way.00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:51.039


Yeah, so uh yeah, she just woke up at like five in the morning and she was like, What do you think about Wrecker?00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:53.039


Maybe that's where he was he conceived on that road?00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:56.480


Yeah, uh no, we haven't even been out this way, out in the East Valley.00:52:56.719 --> 00:53:02.639


But uh yeah, it just she just woke up from sleeping at the hospital when he was getting ready, and she's like, What do you think about Wrecker?00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:03.840


And I go, that's actually kind of cool.00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:05.440


And how to pronounce your last name?00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:05.920


Ians.00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:07.039


Ians, okay.00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:08.800


Um, what's your take on the tattoos?00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:10.400


Because you got you're covered in them, right?00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:11.360


Yeah, I'm covered.00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:12.400


Um I'm gonna be covered.00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:12.960


You are?00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:14.480


You are gonna get Oh my gosh.00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:19.679


Um, uh my first tattoo is gonna be M W P and U.00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:20.559


Yeah, it's like that.00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:21.840


That's our family saying.00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:23.039


N W P U?00:53:23.119 --> 00:53:28.480


M W M W P Tells That's Madly, Wildly, Passionately, and Uncontrollably.00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:29.920


That's how we say we love each other.00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:32.320


So we love you madly, wildly, passionately, uncontrollably.00:53:33.360 --> 00:53:36.159


My grandma always said it to me, and my grandma was like my biggest fan.00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:38.960


She passed away like three or four years ago from Alzheimer's.00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:41.679


And she was like the best.00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:42.400


Your mom?00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:42.880


Your mom?00:53:43.360 --> 00:53:43.920


My wife's mom.00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:44.239


Yeah.00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:45.119


My mom's mom.00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:46.320


Are your parents still around?00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:47.119


Yeah, my mom.00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:48.000


She lives in Peoria.00:53:48.320 --> 00:53:49.280


My sister's out there too.00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:51.199


I mean, she's like, what the heck?00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:53.360


My grandson is It's nuts, yeah.00:53:53.519 --> 00:53:55.599


The whole family's just kind of like, uh, can you fill us in?00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:56.320


What the heck's happening?00:53:56.400 --> 00:53:57.920


You know, I haven't seen you in months.00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:00.320


You know, wait, when are you getting a tattoo?00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:01.760


Uh, my 18th birthday.00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:02.159


You are?00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:02.320


Yeah.00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:04.000


You can get them before if your parents sign off.00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:04.960


Yeah, that's true.00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:09.199


But uh I do like movies and TV shows and this thing.00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:09.599


Yeah.00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:11.920


I saw, because I, you know, I saw Ariana Grande.00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:14.000


She hosted Saturday Live, and she's covered in tattoos.00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:14.239


Yeah.00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:15.119


That was a good one.00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:15.840


That wasn't it?00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:18.239


That was one of the best Saturday Lives in years.00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:19.440


That home alone sketch.00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:20.159


Just brilliant.00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:22.719


Saturday Night Live has not been good in a bit.00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:23.679


In a long time.00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:27.360


We have watched that show since he was I've grown up on it.00:54:27.920 --> 00:54:28.239


Same with me.00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:28.800


Same thing.00:54:29.039 --> 00:54:29.280


I came.00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:33.280


I came in one day, I was probably five, four years old, and I came in.00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:34.559


I was like, what are you guys watching?00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:37.039


And I we just watched it every Saturday since.00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:37.280


Yeah.00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:38.559


So like it's been like a family thing.00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:42.559


That's what was cool when we went to New York for the Kids Tonight Show.00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:58.639


I was getting us set up in the apartment they had put us in, and they went to set, and Laura texts me and she was like, You're not gonna believe where their rehearsal space is because they were still building their set out, and they were the original 6A, so Johnny Carson's set was where his studio was, and Jimmy's in 6B, so just right across the hall.00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:02.239


Um, but she sends me a picture and it's the SNL stage, so that's where I'm gonna do it.00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:06.480


My drums are on the SNL stage, and I'm drumming because I'm practicing for the thing.00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:09.760


And then that's where we did table reads, so we had the whole cast of Jimmy.00:55:10.559 --> 00:55:11.920


And then I walk out the door.00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:13.760


Yeah, well, I was literally on the SNL stage.00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:16.079


I can't remember the old guy's name, he's been there forever.00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:20.880


But he gave me like a SNL like crew shirt, and then he was letting Rec walk through the door, come down the stairs.00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:21.920


Insane, dude.00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:25.519


And uh that's been my dream to like host and be the musical guest.00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:26.719


That's gonna be great then.00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:34.159


Maybe they can run this clip uh five years from now when you get the hosted after winning your Oscar and your Grammy and your Emmy.00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:41.199


But I was gonna say Sorry and the Grindan covered in tattoos, but when you see in Wicked, they didn't they make it up, they take it all off.00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:42.559


Somebody else too Oh, The Rock.00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:44.480


The Rock's the smashing machine.00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:45.280


He didn't have any tattoos.00:55:46.639 --> 00:55:49.119


It just depends if you want to sit longer in the makeup chair, you know?00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:50.880


Are you watching what do you watch for TV?00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:52.000


Are you watching Stranger Things?00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:53.599


Oh my god, it's my favorite show of all time.00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:56.159


You didn't want to know the watch party we had because Thanksgiving.00:55:56.400 --> 00:55:57.039


So him and his buddy.00:55:57.360 --> 00:56:01.599


So me and me and my me and my best friends, we this is a cool story.00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:07.519


So my friend came to me in like second or third grade, and he was like, Wrecker, you gotta watch this new show.00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:08.480


It's called Stranger Things.00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:09.760


I was like, okay, I'll try it.00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:12.320


So I go on my mom, I start watching it, fell in love with it.00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:14.079


We've watched it every day every day since.00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:18.239


And that same friend was like, dude, we should try Dungeons and Dragons.00:56:18.320 --> 00:56:19.199


Like, we should just try it.00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:20.960


Let's see how we play it.00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:23.039


We've played Dungeons and Dragons ever since.00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:29.840


Me and my three best friends, we've played and we play on Halloween every so all the time, and we just ride our bikes everywhere.00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:31.360


Like we literally like replicate.00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:32.400


They try and live.00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:32.880


Literally.00:56:33.920 --> 00:56:35.920


So they've got demagorgon onesies.00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:36.559


Oh yeah.00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:39.599


We had the big we had popcorn buckets, demogorgon popcorn buttons.00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:40.559


We had it was crazy.00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:41.920


So, what do you think is gonna happen?00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:43.119


Who do you think is gonna die?00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:45.920


Well, Will has to die because he's in the Hive Mind.00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:49.840


He's still controlled by Vecna, so if they kill Vecna, Will's gonna die.00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:53.440


You can even see it because when they hurt the Demogorgons, they hurt Will.00:56:53.679 --> 00:57:00.000


So, and uh since day one, since season one, episode one, Will has been connected to the Hive Mind.00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:05.599


And it even showed in season four how Vecna controls Will and started everything.00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:08.719


So Will has to die for them to win.00:57:09.760 --> 00:57:12.000


I think Are you watching it?00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:14.480


I'm intermittent.00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:15.760


So what's your take?00:57:16.159 --> 00:57:20.159


Okay, so there was a move, so the the whole thing takes place in the 80s.00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:20.480


Yep.00:57:20.639 --> 00:57:20.719


Right?00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:23.360


And they they do a lot of this is I had not seen this anywhere.00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:24.159


This is my own take.00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:26.960


They do pay a lot of homage to the 80s, right?00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:28.800


All these different movies, all these different things.00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:33.519


And in the remember the the the flashback episode, I think it's Max goes back.00:57:33.599 --> 00:57:36.079


Is it Max that goes back and sees the school in the 50s?00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:36.400


Yep.00:57:36.639 --> 00:57:38.159


That reminded me of Back to the Future.00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:39.920


They okay, I've seen this.00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:41.360


It's gonna be time travel.00:57:41.599 --> 00:57:45.280


There's but but here's the thing Empire Strikes Back.00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:50.639


Darth Vader is Luke and Laura's, Luke and Leia's dad, right?00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:54.079


Remember, he goes, Luke, I'm your father, and he finds out that she has a sister.00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:59.280


I think Eleven and Will are twins, and I think Vecna's their dad.00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:02.079


And I think they're gonna pay homage to I'm getting Gruzbok's Tony.00:58:02.239 --> 00:58:02.719


This is my own theory.00:58:02.960 --> 00:58:03.920


Did you watch Empire Strikes Back?00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:04.880


You Star Wars guy?00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:06.719


I've only seen Rogue One.00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:07.760


Oh, Rogue One?00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:08.400


Which isn't bad.00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:12.639


Well, the end of Rogue One, it goes into uh no, yeah, it is Rogue One.00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:17.119


And it's funny, I dress as like Anakin for Halloween, so I You can pull that off.00:58:17.199 --> 00:58:21.840


I yeah, I haven't seen uh I think Vecna is Eleven's dad and Will's dad.00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:27.679


I could see that point we've all we've also seen Will's dad, but it wasn't it was Jonathan's dad.00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:28.880


Right, right.00:58:29.440 --> 00:58:30.719


That's what I'm saying.00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:36.800


Oh, I'm having conversations with my kids all we talk about non-stop too, just like they were they got into it as well.00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:39.760


Uh and then I love how he's a rock star, but like such a nerd at the same time.00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:41.599


Such a nerd diving into it.00:58:41.760 --> 00:58:42.400


Do you play video games?00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:42.800


Yeah, yeah.00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:44.000


What do you play?00:58:44.320 --> 00:58:46.719


Um I play a bunch of stuff.00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:52.880


I play Fortnite, um, Call of Duty, Black Ops, Rainbow Six Siege.00:58:53.280 --> 00:58:54.079


You're a pretty centered kid.00:58:54.159 --> 00:58:54.800


He's pretty well balanced.00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:55.119


That's great.00:58:55.199 --> 00:58:55.840


Well, Tony Hoff Ros.00:58:56.800 --> 00:58:57.760


Tony Hawk Pro Skater, yeah.00:58:58.000 --> 00:58:59.280


You skater, you skater back in the back.00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:01.840


But you know, that same kind of realm of everything.00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:04.320


I also watch Outer Banks.00:59:04.480 --> 00:59:04.800


Yeah, of course.00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:06.000


Outer Banks is good.00:59:06.159 --> 00:59:11.039


Um another one I watch.00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:13.760


Oh, Scooby-Doo Mystery Incorporated.00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:14.559


Oh, that's good.00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:15.440


So good.00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:17.360


It's an animation, but it's really good.00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:19.039


That was that was my show when I was growing up.00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:21.280


Yeah, I know that was that's got the shaggy look.00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:26.400


Yeah, you can yeah, dude, if they redo it, you're the perfect shaggy voice.00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:30.400


Well, man, I'm really happy for you, man.00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:31.760


You must be really proud of yourself.00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:32.559


I mean, right?00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:38.320


I mean, you dad, I mean, I'm so glad you came because you know as a dad to be so proud of your kids, right?00:59:38.639 --> 00:59:42.960


I always tell him that too, because I go, you know, as a a dad, you can go like, I'm so proud of you.00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:45.039


But I always ask him the question I go, are you proud of you?00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:45.280


Yeah.00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:48.320


You know, because a lot it he's dealing with it and working through all the time.00:59:48.480 --> 00:59:50.000


But I'm always myself's biggest critic.00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:55.360


I'm always, I always like, I'm like, dang, I should have done that better, should have done this.00:59:55.840 --> 00:59:58.480


But in the long run, I'm very proud of myself.00:59:58.639 --> 00:59:59.280


I think.01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:06.239


There's this John Cena quote that I love where he's like, I am just lucky.01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:10.800


He's like, I have been given lottery ticket after lottery ticket.01:00:11.119 --> 01:00:16.159


And he says, like, I my goal in life is to like find my purpose.01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:22.480


And he's like, So at the end of every day, he goes, he asks himself, Did I earn the sunset?01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:27.599


Like, did I do something in my day that I was able to earn the sunset?01:00:27.840 --> 01:00:33.039


And so I think like after every day, like I write my goals down, I write how I did.01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:37.760


I feel like that's my way of purpose where I'm like, did I earn the sunset?01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:40.079


Did I earn being here another day?01:00:40.159 --> 01:00:48.400


You know, like I'm not saying that like not doing my work is my lifeline, but I'm saying like that that just gives me like a sense of purpose and like knowing that I'm doing good.01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:50.880


He also give gives back a lot, you know.01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:52.960


Like like uh you ever seen him with a make a wish kit?01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:53.360


Oh, yeah.01:00:53.599 --> 01:00:54.400


He's one of my idols.01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:58.320


I think he's got the record for doing make more make-a-wishes for anybody else in the world.01:00:58.480 --> 01:00:58.719


Yeah, yeah.01:00:58.880 --> 01:00:59.679


He's incredible that way.01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:00.559


Amazing.01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:03.440


Wow, that's good that you you're so well put together, dude.01:01:03.519 --> 01:01:05.440


I I wish you massive success.01:01:05.679 --> 01:01:06.079


Thank you.01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:10.159


And and I'm so excited to tell people about you, you know.01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:12.159


And so when you when do you go back to LA?01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:14.320


You're only here for a couple days, then you're here for three weeks.01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:15.599


Three weeks, then you go back to LA.01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:19.360


So 2026 is gonna be the launch of JYT.01:01:19.599 --> 01:01:20.079


It's gonna be going.01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:21.039


Yeah, I'm excited.01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:23.679


The last week he's here, he's got to take his finals for the online school.01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:25.280


So yeah, I have to take finals.01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:26.800


Um what are you, 10th grade?01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:28.000


Yeah, yeah, I'm a sophomore.01:01:28.639 --> 01:01:35.199


Um, but yeah, I feel like every year we've said, this is the this is the this is the year, this is the next biggest thing.01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:39.039


And I'm like, man, it just keeps getting bigger every single year.01:01:39.440 --> 01:01:40.320


Hey, what's the goals, you know?01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:45.360


Like, and we're like, all right, next year let's you know, crush it and let's do this better and go for this, and then everyone's gonna be a good thing.01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:48.000


And I think that's another thing where I'm so proud of myself.01:01:48.079 --> 01:01:49.519


I'm like, every year's gotten better.01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:52.800


It's not like I'm every year I'm staying like this, or every year I'm staying like this.01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:54.880


Like I'm progressing.01:01:55.119 --> 01:01:56.639


Do you do vision boards?01:01:56.880 --> 01:01:57.519


We haven't done that.01:01:57.760 --> 01:01:58.239


I haven't done that.01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:01.440


We did that last year as a family, and it was pretty awesome.01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:04.719


We got all the magazines, newspapers, cut stuff out, and everyone made their vision board.01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:05.840


And I think that works, man.01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:06.320


I think that's great.01:02:06.639 --> 01:02:07.679


Maybe that's all I do that.01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:08.159


Really?01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:08.480


Yeah.01:02:08.800 --> 01:02:09.599


For like the year.01:02:10.159 --> 01:02:10.480


It's cool.01:02:10.719 --> 01:02:11.360


Vision board.01:02:11.440 --> 01:02:11.920


All right, man.01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:13.199


Thanks for jumping on my podcast, Father.01:02:13.679 --> 01:02:14.159


Dude, thanks.01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:15.039


Thanks for having us.01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:21.760


Okay, so welcome to our podcast.01:02:21.920 --> 01:02:28.320


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