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okay, so welcome to our podcast.
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This is a little bit different today, because this podcast is a spin-off of our radio show so where did you get your scan for your heart that told you you had that much calcium?
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oh, dude, it's.
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It's a new thing.
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It's simon med, it's called the.
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Clearly there's only one in the state.
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It's called the.
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It's a special.
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I've done a bunch.
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I'm going back in november, it's like.
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It's like the mri or whatever on steroids.
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There's nothing like it so.
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So there's there and I said I can sit you up with them.
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So here's, here's why I'm asking, because the phillips is the phillips cat scans like phillips.
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The company, um, my, my buddy, has a facility at paradise valley hospital, um, and that's where I got it, and it takes four minutes, oh you told me about that thing, yeah and it does that whole body scan and it's just like dude, here's what you gotta do.
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You gotta go see my doctor.
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She's gotta go see her.
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Just go see her.
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Just give me, give you her number.
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You know what I?
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don't know why I I thought, man somewhere in my you ever do this.
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You ever start like thinking you did something, oh, all the time, and then you go.
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Oh shit, I thought I sent that text, so that's where.
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Good.
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No, no good, because I didn't want to be like ah, the doctor was there and she also has a.
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I've only seen her once because she's you remember she told you she's slammed, she's I can't the like, the proof, the empirical evidence of like there's something bigger going on and maybe I just don't know, it, can't see, it can't feel it can't touch it, but all this stuff's getting pulled.
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You know, I usually call it the DJ effect, cause it's like I call him gravity, like he's so big and what he influences.
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I know dude, because he just posted you the other day.
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And literally it's like I can't keep up.
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Like your life is crazy, like we're getting you on the uptick right now huh.
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It's going to be out of control.
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Like, in six months you're going to be going 100 miles an hour and then when it wins an Oscar like I believe it will win an Oscar then it's going to be.
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Then they got to do a part two.
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Do you know how it ends?
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Did they have it at the?
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Do you know how the movie of your life ends?
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Well, maybe it can end in here.
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Have you seen the movie yet?
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So I, I watched uh like an 80 percent, uh, complete version back in january and so it was missing, like some of the music, some of the cgi stuff.
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Um, they ended up having some additional scenes in there and, uh, like back in may, my son went to new york city and watched the complete version of it, oh okay.
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And so he got an opportunity and I talked to him right afterward and he just, he was just beside himself.
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He's like you know, if anybody's a bystander that can validate something or invalidate it, he's like dad, he's like dj's got your hand movement to your walk.
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Really, oh yeah, your hand gestures, speech pattern, you know, and you imagine, like, when you, when you act for emotions, you need your voice, and so to change your voice that's not that bass baritone that dj has yeah it.
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It takes an additional level of understanding of what you're doing.
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And I didn't understand it because, because, like it was explained to me, like hey, acting comes from your voice, you're like oh yeah, I mean it's you know he's like, I think for your role, what I've seen from the trailers, he's get, he's become you.
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Yeah, like he's not screwing around, like when they say cut, he's probably still you, he is you know what I mean.
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So that had to be kind of weird for you.
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Were you there?
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Did you ever see him as?
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you, I so, I.
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So this is what's interesting is that, um, a lot of what the producer, dave copeland, ended up doing is trying to schedule me when it wasn't those high emotional points, because it would make it even more difficult for him to get into character from there.
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And so they had they brought me up prior to production beginning and then they brought me up for fight week, which was really cool.
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They had all the scenes of like you know him in him in the ring when I was in Japan and they had you know his stunt team and everything work it was.
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It was so cool.
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I mean, it was like it's like I got to do like fight week with DJ and the stunt team and you know, go through all these series and understand you call him DJ.
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Yeah, most of us know him as the Rock.
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Maybe Dwayne, did he say, call me DJ.
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So here's what I figured out, so persona-wise, when he's the rock, he's completely a different person.
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Okay, like, like legitimately a different person.
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When he's away from all of that, people call him Dwayne or DJ.
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Okay, just because it's, he's not the rock.
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Right, that's just a persona, right, like when he's him and I are sitting here, it's completely a different person.
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That I don't a lot of the public doesn't get a chance to see.
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Sure, it's usually he's usually he's in character, he's in gear and he's on.
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He's got to be on.
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Oh my, if you see him, he's on.
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Yeah, so you got rare opportunities to chill with him oh, absolutely, and this is what's crazy about it and I didn't understand this.
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So when vince mcmahon was still still with the WWE prior to TKO buying them last year, dj hadn't done any WWE events for 13 years because he didn't have that good a relationship with Vince McMahon.
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The second TKO bought the WWE, vince McMahon got removed from the board and they put dj on the board and dj did wrestlemania last, so that's why he came back and did that.
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Yeah, that makes sense, and so he?
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my feeling is he needed that outlet where he can get up and call people crackheads.
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And you know, he got up here friday night smackdown and he like I heard on the news today that Glendale, Arizona, is the crystal meth capital of the world he goes what is wrong with you people and it's just like he needs that.
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That's offensive.
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It's really Tucson.
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Right.
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He's got the wrong zip code.
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He's got the wrong.
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So he needed that type of outlet to be able to not be perfect all the time.
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I mean I couldn't imagine, I know I couldn't imagine having the feeling like you needed to be on all the time, perfect all the time.
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You couldn't say the wrong thing, I mean, it was just.
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And then when he does try to do something nice.
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Sometimes it backfires, it does right.
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So yeah, it's, it's a tough, it's a tough situation, but I want to jump around for a bunch of because you know you're one of the few people that I can talk to and we, you know, we met that one time you came over to my house, but what's funny is you and I were both going 100 miles an hour for 30 different topics and I think we were the only people following each other.
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Nobody else could hang no, they were just going all over the place.
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I really connected to you.
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I thought it was awesome so.
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I want to jump back, go back to like when you found out.
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How did you find out Dwayne the Rock Johnson is going to play you in the movie of your life.
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How does that happen?
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So to 2019, in the summer of 2019, pre-pandemic pre-all that I get a random call from william morse agency wme saying that this guy, brad slater, wants to talk to me and I I take it as a like at this point in my life.
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It you know how many years ago is that?
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six years ago I I don't take it seriously okay and so I go, well, okay, like I'll call him back.
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And I get on the internet and I'm like, I'm like looking at the number, I'm like, oh, okay, and now my curiosity's up, right.
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So I so I call the office, get a hold of secretary, that put me through, and the crazy part is, uh, brad slater, who's been dj's agent for 13 or 14 years now.
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He went to uva.
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No way, yeah, oh, I love that, yeah I take back the crack comment yeah, the crystal meth so here's the other thing that's crazy.
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So when he graduated from uva, he he worked at William Morris in the mail room.
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Okay, Worked his way up.
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So here's what's even crazier.
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I met with him 20 something years ago when I lived in California.
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I was at the peak of my fighting and a friend of mine says we need to figure out if you can go Hollywood.
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And so he scours the earth and he comes up with Brad Slater working in the mailroom.
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We meet at the Cheesecake Factory near Beverly Hills Mall and Brad, like, looks at me and he goes I don't know, I'm in the mailroom.
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Yeah, what do you want me to do?
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Like I can't do anything.
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What he does do is he sets up a meeting with the other agents and the other agents explaining what I did for a living and what I wanted to do.
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They looked at me like dude, right, there's something wrong with you, right?
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and so back then, when you first heard about ufc or ultimate fighting or stuff like that, that was kind of like what's happening, yeah you didn't quite get it right right, right like like most people, they explain it like they're.
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Uh okay, like they didn't understand, maybe they had to tie it in a fight club.
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They did fight club oh my god.
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You know what we used to get all the time.
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Oh, is it like tybo?
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You know it's like billy blanks.
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You know I'm like, oh my god, I'm like so he sets this up with, brad sets it up, yeah, and he says to you hey, we're thinking about making this a movie.
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Yep, and here's who he goes.
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Who owns your rights was the next question, and I said good question, I I don't know.
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I know that x, y and z and I like pointed him in the direction that I thought he needed to go.
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And he goes.
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Okay, we'll be in touch, and and that was kind of it.
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Okay, 2019, then what?
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2019, and then it's a miracle how all this happened.
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So 2019, call it July 2019.
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I get a call from Brad at the end of September 2019, and he goes.
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We got you right.
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I'm like, okay, like you're kidding me.
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He goes, dj's going to make an announcement at the UFC in Madison Square Garden, right At the BMF, you know, and he's going to make an announcement he's going to star in and produce, and da-da-da, the movie, and so that was like November 2019, and he makes the announcement and then the whole world falls apart, right, right.
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And so at that point, you know the thing that was going through my head but are you going?
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holy shit, the rock's gonna play me in the movie like I didn't even, didn't even let it he's literally the biggest action star in the world.
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Like by by, like by far about some up-and-comer guy.
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No, this is no man no, it is.
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So.
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This is what's crazy about it.
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So, uh, we, we connect on the phone prior to him, like I think it was the day before he's gonna announce it at madison square garden press conference, right.
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And so it ends up being this um, like, the conversation I had with him was almost transactional.
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You know, it's like okay, here's what I'm gonna do, you don't need to do anything, I'm gonna announce this.
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And with him was almost transactional.
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You know it was like okay, here's what I'm going to do, you don't need to do anything, I'm going to announce this.
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And it was just just transactional conversation.
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You know, very, very to the point.
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And, uh, so he makes the announcement and I go from like, I think at that time I had maybe like 1100 Instagram followers and like, all of a sudden, it's like 23,000.
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You know, within like you know a couple of weeks, and I'm like, oh shit.
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And then the pandemic sets in and from the whole pandemic and everything I don't even really think about it, because I know everything when everything sank in and it was like, oh shit, the whole world's stopping stopping.
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You know, I didn't even put any more thought into it or anything like that.
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Wait, I want to jump around to a bunch of different things.
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I want to get into your mindset back in the day when you're in your prime and you're in the smashing machine before a fight.
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Yeah, Do you have a routine?
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Did you have a routine Like, were you in the zone?
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You know how they always say Kobe was whatever.
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Did you have a routine Like were you in the zone?
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You know how they always say Kobe?
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was whatever, yeah, yeah, if you got a fight at 7 pm, how are you prepping all day mentally for that?
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Routines were a huge, huge, huge part of it.
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You know ate the same thing pretty much the night before.
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All of it, same place.
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You know it was a fight in Japan it was the same meal.
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It's called shabu-shabu.
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You know, it's this frozen beef that's sliced real thin and you put it in boiling water to cook it and it was like, oh, it was the perfect thing, because you loved it, or was there a dietician that?
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Said, yeah, it's a protein.
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Like back then were people into that?
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Like were like you gotta eat.
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They were.
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It was just from for for the industry, uh, for fighting for for, like, high level sports training, right, right, there was just a lot of information coming on board.
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Um, I think it was like the transition from the dark ages and and the light.
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It really was right, right, right, um.
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And so there was like hey, here's, here's, a better look at what's going on diet-wise, internally, all this other stuff.
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So I was trying to stay in the forefront of that.
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I was trying to go okay, what do I need to do?
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How do I need to manage it?
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Because I wanted to.
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You know, more than anything else, I wanted to be a professional.
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Right, you know I didn't want to be a sideshow or, like you know, traveling circus.
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You know like, oh, here comes the fighters.
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You know it's like the rodeo clowns.
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You know I didn't want to be that.
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I wanted to be a professional.
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So you're eating right, you're doing your routine.
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Yeah, what about, like, like, I'll take you back a long time ago A friend of mine I was just starting in radio and this friend of mine got a job to direct the Denniser show on hbo random show.
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Yeah, sharon stone was a guest and I got to go watch and the whole meeting.
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Before the meeting thing started, no one was allowed to talk to dennis miller.
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No right, and you hear stuff like that you think what a jerk.
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Yeah, but I get it now.
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Yeah because, he's got to go on stage and if he has the interaction with someone that says, hey man, you sure look stupid.
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All of a sudden that's in his head, yep, and he's like wait a minute, I gotta go be on.
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I don't want any negative.
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So now, as I do a radio show, I'm not like that, but I try to keep all negativity out.
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So here you are, about to fight.
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You probably got to visualize oh, you do so.
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Do you want some punk coming up to you and saying, hey man, like you know, like did you?
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have I, I did so the, so the for me it's uh, it's just narrowing my focus.
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People around me knew when I started to just shut things out and shut things out.
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That's what you mean.
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So you did that.
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Oh yeah, I mean it was a huge, huge part of it, because I can even look at myself on film now and not recognize myself, just because of the look, the intensity, because you were locked in oh my God.
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It was like people would tell me they'd go.
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That doesn't look like you that looks like that's what I'm talking about.
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Give me goosebumps, I mean it, it, literally, it, it's so it.
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The crazy part is and I've said this before in interviews that I could smell you if you and I were fighting and we're standing in a seven meter by seven meter ring, which is big.
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If you were standing all the way across on the other side of the ring, I could smell you and, and the reason why I say that is that there's different types of smells that I figured out, like there's a nervous smell which is this pungent, hormonal like smell that you go and I could smell that and that's like predatorial, like awesome, like literally it's like, and immediately when, when we started fighting, I wanted to make you bleed, because that's another smell that's added in, where you can smell the iron in the blood dude that's like it's so it's so crazy because I didn't understand all this until I stepped away from like oh shit, that's what it was.
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You know like hearing and smelling and just this whole intensity of of, like it's another level of of animal, yeah, and if that got out to your competitor, that would probably deflate them, if they knew.
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If you just looked at and said like if you're fighting right now and this interview got out, it was like mark her can smell you you're done, oh my god in here.
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The competitor would be like oh, my god, you know what I mean.
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Like that's what I think would happen because you have like, like if you go in a sauna, right, and you're relaxing, it's a completely different smell, Like it's just water and salt in it.
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You add hormones into that stuff because your, your adrenals are kicking in cortisol, all this other shit.
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You, I'm just telling you, you walk in the room and I'm getting ready to fight you.
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I know what the hell's going on.
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Did someone teach you that?
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No, it was just.
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It was this.
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It took me stepping.
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Like the next day after a fight, or a couple days or a week after a fight, I'd go like what was that Like I couldn't like, because it focused me, Like it would give me another level of focus of like, like you're almost like whiffing it in your nostrils to smell it.
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Man, it's so wild because you're such a nice guy.
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So if you were fighting now the Mark Kerr from then now, do you think you'd be crushing it in the UFC?
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Oh yeah, I'd have to hit another gear.
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I look at the guys now and I go I would have had to found another gear in my training to be able to be as competitive as oh dude in my opinion.
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I was watching some of your old fights.
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I think you would kill everybody today yeah I don't think.
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I think you would kill everybody.
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Yeah, I think that the way you were fight, the way you like, broke shoulders and faces and stuff with the guy that left the ring that one.
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Oh my god, yeah, oh my god, man, that you know what that I just talked about this the other day.
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I said that's the guy that left the ring.
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That one fight, oh my God, yeah, oh my God, man, you know what?
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I just talked about this the other day.
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I said that's one of those fights where I never read Back.
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Then it was blogs, right.
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And so blogs are just starting and the blogs, like my trainer, boss Root, he goes dude, just stop, stop, stop with it.
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Stop reading them.
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Yeah, stop stop with it, stop reading them.
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Yeah, stop reading them.
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And then I happened to read just a series of them where, like, kerr can't fight more than one minute.
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His last four fights haven't lasted more than this amount of time.
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And so it was this huge fight in the Tokyo Dome and I'm like, okay, all right, and I kept him in the ring, this dude in the ring, for 23 minutes, 23 minutes, minutes.
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And and by the end of it he just he wanted out.
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He just he dove out of the ring, dove out of the ring and I'm like pulling back in the ring, going no, no, no no, no, no, no, no it's just it's.
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It's one of those where it just it's like another.
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Like I said, it's just another level of animal.
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You know.
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You know most people understand, like you know, if I went after your kid, if I went after your family and there's something physical, you have a gear in you, sure that you can get to right.
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But to access it willingly without having that kind of stress where I'm just competing is that what you did?