THE STRANGEST LESSON ON WEALTH (HINT: IT'S CHILDHOOD TRAUMA)

Welcome And Tracking Everything

SPEAKER_00 0:05

Okay, so welcome to our podcast. This is a little bit different today because this podcast is a spin-off of our radio show. Okay, wait. So we're rolling, but I'm gonna talk about everything. But but first, I want to talk about your roop because you your fix your roop, look at your whoop.

SPEAKER_01 0:30

Oops. How often do you take off your roop? Whoops. You know, it's it's funny. I wear it for things I probably shouldn't wear it for. Um I want to measure everything, right? I think uh I'm a measurement freak. I want to, you know, to measure success, you know, you've got to have some sort of like tools involved because you and I chat a lot, you know, through Instagram back and forth, which is uh pretty funny with our talking about our whoop scores and sleep eight and all that stuff. But um, even with jujitsu, so I do jujitsu and even with jujitsu, I actually wear whoop underwear. Have you seen that? Yeah, yeah, my son has it. Yeah, so I forgot. I put the thing in here and the, you know, yeah. So I I measure everything. I I try never to take it off. Um just had it off. Well, I changed on hands. Oh, you put it on different hands? Yeah, I put it on this hand. It was on my left. I don't know why my watch was on backwards earlier. And what are you a disaster? I'm a mess, man. I just got done filming the TV show. So, you know, listen, I I I got four episodes in today uh for the different because we have a bunch of different markets. We're in Phoenix, Vegas, Portland, Vancouver, Washington, same same market. Um I'm on in those markets.

SPEAKER_00 1:50

How many we should be doing in those markets?

SPEAKER_01 1:53

We're we're about to have those conversations. So I know my guy is right now handling all that stuff behind the scenes.

SPEAKER_00 2:01

For the iHeart thing?

SPEAKER_01 2:02

Yeah. But you and I need to figure out like, because I don't know where iHeart begins and you end, and vice versa, right?

SPEAKER_00 2:09

Well, this has nothing to do with iHeart except for maybe it's gonna it's running on iHeart. No offense. I mean, I hope it's all good. Um but like for for me, I never take this whoop off. And the other day I went to an event and I wanted to wear my watch. I got I have a small collection of nice watches. I like watches a lot. And I was gonna go, because I had a watch would go on this arm, right? And I was like, I never even thought about putting the whoop over here. I was like, forget it, I'm just not gonna wear a watch. You just switch arms.

SPEAKER_01 2:34

I wear I've always wear them both.

SPEAKER_00 2:37

Are you the one that told me the watch thing? Who told me the watch? What's that? Uh somebody told me um a watch. Because he was like, Why do you need a watch? You got your phone. And they're like, This tells time. Who told me this? This tells they go, This tells time. This tells a story. Somebody told me that. A watch guy, a watch guy told me that.

SPEAKER_01 2:58

Here's the thing watches are a rabbit hole that I'm trying to escape from here. It's it's one of those things that listen, man, I I come from nothing. I came raised essentially by a single mom, you know, through much of my kind of older childhood. Um, you know, I think that sometimes when you start to see some success, it's easy to attach to things, right? And in personal items. And and um watches are one of those rabbit holes that, you know, I've never cared much about. Um, but it it's it's it's one of those things where, hey, you know, when somebody makes an offer to you to say, hey, here's this special watch that you can buy, and let's make up a number. Hey, this is a $10,000 watch, but you know, you pay $10,000 for it. But if you sell it today, you can get $25,000 for it, right? There's, you know, we have a pretty special relationship with um, you know, I don't know who your sponsors are, but you know, uh Hamra is who I deal with over there. Who? Yeah. Jeff Jeff Hamra, yeah. So yeah, Hammer to me is unbelievable. He's the best. Dan's my guy over there, but you know, Jeff may be cooler than Dan,

Whoop Habits And Watch Temptations

SPEAKER_01 4:10

but uh they've made things available to me. Uh just, I mean, he just a fantastic relationship. Like, and so when someone says, here's this thing that is ungettable publicly, but we're gonna give it.

SPEAKER_00 4:23

Yeah. They have stuff that nobody else can get. That's it.

SPEAKER_01 4:26

Yeah. That's it. And and so you figure, hey, you know, if times get tough, I can always sell my watch for twice what I paid for it. Hopefully, I don't ever face those times again. But, you know, um what watch is that?

SPEAKER_00 4:39

What kind of watch is that?

SPEAKER_01 4:40

Uh, this is a paddock, a paddock Philippe. Oh, yeah, yeah. Very nice. 5990. So it's a steel watch. Um uh, you know, it's one of those kind of holy grail hard-to-get things that they made available, which was awesome.

SPEAKER_00 4:54

Like it's did you get it from Hamra? I did. Did um so when you walk, do you go to the new place? I did. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. When you walk in there and to the left is the paddock part, yeah, and to the right is the Rolex part, and it's this beautiful like two-story, three-story in the back. They've got a I mean, it's just it's unbelievable.

SPEAKER_01 5:10

Yeah, no, they've treated me incredibly well, well beyond any sort of spending I do there. So yeah, no, it's great. That's great, man.

SPEAKER_00 5:19

So when you say you brought you were brought up um with single mom, what is part of that story? Because I think you and I have similar stuff.

SPEAKER_01 5:25

Yeah, you know, so it's interesting. Um, I I was raised in a classical, you know, family, the nuclear family here, had mom and dad and everything. And, you know, it's funny, I don't talk much about this, but I'll talk about it here. Um I had a dad who went to prison in my junior year of high school for a crime that was tough, tough to deal with as a kid. And um it's one of those things that crushes people to hear about their father. It's not one of those glorious crimes like, oh, my dad was a mobster. My dad was a it was terrible. And oh wow, and it it, you know, did a lot of damage, did a lot of damage to me personally, mentally, to my mom, who is oh my gosh, my rock. I mean, to have survived that in, I mean, she's you know, my dad left her in a position that was interesting, you know, and this like all kind of circles back to what I do professionally. But my dad left my mom hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. Um he lived a weird life, man. It was really weird. You know, I I grew up with a dad who never had a driver's license, uh, never registered his cars. And so when I was driving with my dad, and by the way, that life had nothing to do with his crimes, which were completely different thing. Um, but when I sat shotgun for my dad, I literally had to look for police cars entering the freeway and exiting. And like he would tell you that? Yeah, well, that's that was what I that's what you did. I mean, it's just a thing. And so if a cop was coming, he had this perfect dance of dancing around semi-trucks so that cops could never get behind him. So this like hyper-vigilance, right, right? Like this, hey, I I see everything that's going on around me has just been the way I am. Like I I um, you know, I I'm just a hyper-vis, I like I I tend not to miss things, details, be being raised where every detail mattered. Like if we didn't see that, my dad would, you know, I mean, he never had insurance. He never and what did he do for a living? Well, he owned a tree service. And the problem is, as a landscaper, a tree guy, these guys they never paid their taxes. He owed hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes. And you know, I I say this in this kind of mixed-hearted way where my dad going to prison as much damage as it did, it was a blessing. And and I hate to say that, you know, and I don't want my mom to hear that. And I know she's a fan of yours, but it was a blessing because had that not happened, this cascade of other things that went on in my life would never have happened either. And so my mom was a she worked for an oral surgeon in La Jolla, and she couldn't, you could never use profanity around her. And her boss used the F word to her, and and to her, that was just you don't go there, right?

SPEAKER_02 8:43

Right.

SPEAKER_01 8:44

Um, and he did. And my mom says, if you do that again, I'm leaving. Well, she left, she quit after he he you know cursed her out. And ironically, my dad sent my mom to massage school because he's pretty selfish, SOB, you know. Um, and my mom did massage. Well, coincidentally, um, right as my mom had quit, a man opened a gym in La Jolla called Club La Jolla. A man uh who is um an unbelievable human being. Uh he was actually really famous for a while for being an attorney for the mafia. And um, and you know, Alan was um being portrayed in the movie Casino as Mr. Green. And they they made him look weak in the movie, but in the book, it was really um a neat portrayal of him. But anyways, he gave him a chance. He was opening this kind of gym for his trophy wife, saying, Hey, I'm gonna open this five-star gym in La Jolla, Berber carpet, amazing. We need a massage therapist, a day spa. So they gave my mom a shot. And she went from, you know, struggling to building this unbelievable business, being the best of the best. Clients like Oprah, clients like Barbara Streisand, and you know, Junior Seyo became one of our clients, you know, and and Junior, you know, was like a son to her. And, you know, I don't know if you know the story of Junior Seao, but but he was one of the, oh, my mom was one of the last people he said goodbye to before he took his life. And um that's how meaningful he was in in or she was in his life. And my mom's just one of those very special people who you can talk to without judgment, who just people trusted, right? People loved. And but she went from being hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt, paying off all my dad's nonsense to having a paid-off house in La Jolla. You know, she now lives here in Arizona with us. She's cursing me out right now in the summertime as it, you know, this heat gets so crazy.

SPEAKER_00 10:54

But when she becomes a massage therapist, how old are you?

SPEAKER_01 10:57

Well, I was 10th grade, 11th grade in in high school.

SPEAKER_00 11:04

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 11:05

Um, and uh it was 11th grade, is when she started working for this place.

SPEAKER_00 11:10

You know, when did your dad go to prison? How old were you?

SPEAKER_01 11:12

11th grade.

SPEAKER_00 11:13

11th grade. And where'd you go to high school?

SPEAKER_01 11:15

Uh Southeast San Diego. What was school? Really tough part of town. Um, I actually went to performing arts school. It's called San Diego School of Creative and Performing Arts. A lot of kids went to Juilliard, a lot of artists. I was a very mediocre uh musician, horn player.

SPEAKER_00 11:31

I think Shimi Foxx went there, didn't he? He didn't go to our school. Are you sure? I'm almost I mean, I feel like I remember I think he may have gone.

SPEAKER_01 11:39

I know like Mario uh Lopez went to Tula Vista, uh-huh down in which was another performing arts school. I knew Mario pretty well. Just saw him at a jiu-jitsu tournament. He didn't recognize me. So I felt I hate that. Yeah, I wasn't a big deal. No, he's Mario's a great guy, though. I have a great experience with him.

SPEAKER_00 11:55

Um your dad goes to prison.

SPEAKER_01 11:58

Um at the time he goes to prison, your mom and dad are just to be clear, look, I'll I'll clear up the the noise. He went to prison for molesting a girl. Oh, God. That went to my high school that was a next door neighbor. And so just imagine the damage that that does to you as a kid hearing that about your father and your mother and all that stuff. So um, yeah, it was it was rough. It was horrible.

SPEAKER_00 12:21

You have brothers and sisters?

SPEAKER_01 12:22

Yeah, and he took it. My I have one brother and he took it incredibly hard.

SPEAKER_00 12:26

Older or younger?

SPEAKER_01 12:27

One year older.

SPEAKER_00 12:28

Oh, he took it hard. Wow. Yeah, it was tough. How long did your dad stay in prison or is he still there? Is he still around?

SPEAKER_01 12:33

He's he he's passed away. Um when it's interesting because when

Dad’s Prison And Learned Hypervigilance

SPEAKER_01 12:40

he somehow, and first of all, I had no real guidance in high school. I had terrible grades um as a high school student because my parents, none of them went to college. There it wasn't really a thing. Uh but all my good friends took off to college. And I was like, well, everyone's leaving me behind here. What am I doing? And I remember visiting Berkeley, where my best friend was at, and I fell in love with the campus, you know, and and at the time it was the number one public university in the world. And you know, I remember sitting on Sprout Hall, which was like this where the center of the civil rights movement happened, right? All of the civil rights marches. And I was like, man, I'm gonna I'm gonna come here one day. And I remember listening to this Marky Mark song, Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch. Remember them?

SPEAKER_00 13:26

Do I remember them? Which which which song? I know all I have two of his albums. Man, it's so you gotta believe? Is it you gotta believe, or was it um a good vibrations?

SPEAKER_01 13:34

Good vibrations, yeah. And he's like, I'll be a chemical engineer making 90 to 95,000 a year, or whatever that went. And ironically, my friend was a chemical engineer at Berkeley, and I just felt like this song was like speaking to me. And I'm gonna I do a lot of business in in Vegas, have some offices there. I'm gonna I'm gonna thank him because I think that somehow Marky Mark, Mark Wahlberg, who's also friends with Mario, you know, has some weird like connection to to why I went there. And so I went from being a terrible high school student, went to community college, was able to restart my academic story. Nobody knew me.

SPEAKER_00 14:13

Nobody Where did you go to community college?

SPEAKER_01 14:15

Southwestern College in Chula Vista.

SPEAKER_00 14:17

Okay, okay. Somehow after that, you were able to get into Berkeley.

SPEAKER_01 14:21

Figured out my way into Berkeley. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 14:22

That's expensive too.

SPEAKER_01 14:24

Well, you know, it was public. I was in in-state, so it wasn't so so it wasn't bad. It was actually pretty inexpensive. Um, most of it was covered with scholarships and grants, need-based grants, because I mean we had no money. Um, my mom was still paying off tons of debt from my dad by you know at that time. And um, but you know, I figured it out.

SPEAKER_00 14:44

So you go to Berkeley and you're able to, with scholarships on a job, pay for a rent, pay for tuition. And how old are you now at this time? 22?

SPEAKER_01 14:51

So I was a little old because I transferred as a junior. Right. So, you know, I was the junior inside the freshman dorm.

SPEAKER_00 14:57

So I was wow, man, that's tough.

SPEAKER_01 14:59

And yeah, you know, it's interesting because I went to performing art school and all my guy friends thought it was funny. A lot of my friends that went to big real high schools wouldn't make fun of me. So I decided, you know, I'm gonna go walk onto an athletic team. And I I walked onto two teams, the the crew, the crew team and the rugby team. And crew really resonated with me. I know you have a history and crew.

SPEAKER_00 15:33

Jeez, man. You know, but also because you we've talked about this force. Your mom or your dad, one of them is Mexican, right? My mom. Your mom. My mom's Mexican too.

SPEAKER_01 15:40

Yeah, she didn't speak English as a kid, neither did mine. It's funny, as is people will see my name on my diploma or my name, like in Jiu-Jitsu, Brazilians use your middle name first for some reason. And you know, my my full name is Stuart Alejandro Willis Sanchez. Oh, wow. And people are like, why are you whitewashing your name? You're doing this to sound white. What is wrong with you? And I'm like, no, man, I just it's just never been how I've been called, you know? And so that's a big people think it's funny. They don't actually know, you know, my story, and I don't always talk about it. I mean, but yeah, my mom didn't speak English until she was like 10 years old. She lived in an adobe house with 10 other of her siblings, you know, that when when it was one square adobe room, and when they had more kids, they added another one, then another one. And so to get out of the house, you had to go through the parents' bedroom because it was like a caterpillar arrangement where you no kids could sneak out because they had bars on the windows. It's a terrible place in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Um, but yeah, she grew up with nothing, you know. And but I had the greatest time spending summers in Albuquerque with my family barbecuing or roasting green chili and pignones, and you know, that's how they made their living.

SPEAKER_00 16:58

So when did your dad die? Did he die in prison?

SPEAKER_01 17:02

He didn't. He um I actually delayed my walking of graduation from Berkeley so that he could see me graduate uh and and and walk. So he spent, I think, about six years, seven years in prison. And uh I was able to delay a semester or or so because I was gonna go to law school and I was you know adding some additional time there, but but I was able to delay a semester and have him watch me walk.

SPEAKER_00 17:31

Well, that's cool.

SPEAKER_01 17:31

Yeah. So to me, that was meaningful. You know, listen, I have this love-hate relationship with him, right? Sure. Hate what he did to the family, hate what he did to you know, to my mom, hate what he did to the victim. But, you know, it's he honestly he was a good dad when if you take all the pretty bad stuff out of the equation. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:55

So he watches you graduate. Does he get sick? Does he get murdered? Does he get in a car accident?

SPEAKER_01 17:59

Yeah, so it, you know, it it's in prison health declines badly. You're not well taken care of, his diet was terrible. He, you know, his health was just horrible. He had triple bypass, you know. Oh wow. And he he just, you know, he he ended up having some strokes and a uh some some heart issues, and it didn't make it, you know. It was a couple years a couple years after he got out, you know. So um yeah, and he never really got to see, you know, I think the one thing I miss is that like I don't I don't have that guy that I can, you know, share that stuff with, you know, I he never got to see me, you know, get to where I am, wherever that is.

SPEAKER_00 18:44

Well, graduating Berkeley is a pretty badass thing, too.

SPEAKER_01 18:46

It's all relative, man. You know, like it's it's once you accomplish one thing, you feel like, hey, it's time to move on to the next and to do some other cool stuff. And yeah, I think um, yeah, it's it's it's been an interesting story to go and well let me jump around a lot.

SPEAKER_00 19:01

Yeah. I do a lot of ADHD stuff. It's all good. So let me jump to right now. So what what do you do for a living now?

SPEAKER_01 19:07

So I'm a financial advisor. Um, I'm an owner of or a partner at a company called Asset Preservation Wealth and Tax. Um, we are a wealth management company, manage a couple billion dollars in the market, about a billion dollars outside of that. Um we, you know, we oversee the wealth of you know hundreds of families uh both here in town in Phoenix. We have five offices, a couple offices in Vegas, a couple in Portland, Vancouver. There's five offices here? Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:39

Well, how come you can't have just one office here? Why do you have to have five?

SPEAKER_01 19:42

People don't want to drive that far. Listen, what I've realized about Arizona is this if you open an office in Scottsdale, people from the West Valley will go there. People from Scottsdale will not go to the West Valley. That's true. My office was in surprise, our original office. And so we opened a Scottsdale office and it multiplied. Like we have our TV show, you know, our asset preservation hour, and it's gotten tremendous response. People have been watching it for years, and um, you know, we'll we'll drive. I mean, we have people that drive five hours from the Indian reservations, for example, to come to see us, right? And but I think the more convenient you make it to have a conversation, the easier it is. You know, the more difficult you make it to get to your your advisor, the less likely those conversations happen. And I think communication is everything. You know, there's go ahead. No, there's a reason that all my personal financial clients have my personal cell phone number. Right. So seven days a week they can reach me. Pisses off my wife.

SPEAKER_00 20:43

You know, do you get downtime? I hope you turn off your phone for this interview.

SPEAKER_01 20:46

I yeah, yeah. It's it's on do not disturb, but you know, it's it's one of those things where I think in our industry, in our world, when the world's changing so fast with this crazy political environment of volatility, sometimes people need answers and they want to know that, hey, I can reach my guy, not have to talk to levels of assistance first.

SPEAKER_00 21:07

Can we dumb it down? How do you dumb that down uh when you say wealth management? Do you have to be wealthy for you to handle somebody? Who like what's the spectrum? What's the income of somebody? Because maybe there's a an is it is there a 19-year-old that can come see you if they're not a famous influencer that has millions of dollars? Can you be can you be a 22-year-old that's getting out of college? Do you have to be a 50-year-old? Like, what's the spectrum?

SPEAKER_01 21:27

Yeah, so so what our company specializes in is tax planning in addition to wealth planning. So um the the demographic of our company has certainly changed, uh, you know, and we try not to forget where we came from, you know. And uh, but but to us, you know, I have a pretty simple rule. I don't do business with people I don't like, and and we don't establish a minimum. A lot of company companies will say you have to have 250,000 or 500,000 or a million dollars. And I don't do that because it all goes back to you know to to to my mom right like my mom needed help and and had had you know alan not reached out to my mom and given her an opportunity and in in given her guidance and she had some mentors along the way that guided her um had they not done that she wouldn't be where she is and now she's retired comfortably has a paid off house here in Scottsdale you know million dollars in the bank uh you know she's killed it and and they're like incredibly proud of what she's accomplished and but you'll take somebody like that oh of course if there's a 30 year old single mom that's making even more $4,000 a year or less even more so yes.

SPEAKER_00 22:41

They can come to you Stuart can you help me? This is what I'm what what do I do? And what do you do?

SPEAKER_01 22:45

Do you take their money and go, hey let's invest it in Snapchat like that like Yeah we we listen I think what separates us from others is a lot of times when you're sitting with an advisor, they're picking these stocks they're saying I like this stock or this bond or this mutual fund. We do it differently we use external money managers so that what if the guy let's say that you're my financial advisor and um you're betting because remember buying stocks and bonds you're betting it's going up when someone else is betting it's going down. But I ask you this one question what if you're wrong? I'm gonna bet my whole life savings that your view of the world is right. Right. Right? We live in a couple concurrent realities right now. If you watch Fox News you see the world one way. If you watch CNN you're on two different planets right now there's two concurrent realities happening right right right news is interpreted politically now I don't even know where to go to get my news now man because I don't but you're right it it's hard but I use the same premise for finance. What if they're wrong? You know, because somebody's wrong so what we do is use multiple money managers that use multiple points of view diversification everybody knows never have all your eggs in one basket. What we do differently

Mom’s Reinvention And Mentorship

SPEAKER_01 24:00

is not just a diversification of your investments but a diversification of perspectives multiple points of view in your portfolio and most people could never accomplish that they don't have enough money if you have a $2000 you don't have enough money to have multiple money managers right you know if you know teachers have the worst financial advice of all of them because they're dealing with financial advisors that are dealing with somebody that makes $40,000 a year how is that advisor going to make a living off of you well with very expensive you know very expensive investments mutual funds, annuities, things like that that just pay them and it's it's parasitic. So what we've done is been able to create an environment where you know someone who's done their job, put savings away, have a couple hundred grand, they can have multiple money managers. We have the biggest money manager in the world some people conservatives don't like them BlackRock right we we use multiple others but they all see the world differently so that if one gets it wrong it doesn't ship you know sink the whole ship. You know it it reduces the likelihood that they all get it wrong together and and and the reason we do it and other people don't is because it costs us a lot of money to to to do it that way. But you know I'm paying about 30 basis points 0.3% to our money managers and I don't usually say that. I don't know why I just did but you know at $2 billion I'm paying six million dollars a year to money managers. Right. I could hire a guy down the hall for a few hundred thousand dollars and save millions of dollars. Right. I don't want the guy down the hall. Because these guys are better. I want the best in the world and and well they're one of them I mean there's a reason they're big because nobody you just can't call BlackRock and do it. If you have a billion dollars you can't get a billion dollars right yeah okay so you know so so it allows us allows people access to really good money management uh in in a diverse way you know in in I'm willing to pick up the cost and I'm in it for the long game. This isn't me trying to get rich today it's trying to build a company that's different that that really is comprehensive and that treats people like human beings. You know I think that's that's the important thing. I'm I'm very much the reason I can leave my phone on all the time and and people have access to me seven days a week is, you know, I I truly do not do business, won't do business with people I don't like.

SPEAKER_00 26:25

So you've actually met somebody and not liked them and said eh.

SPEAKER_01 26:29

Oh for sure. Really? Or do you hand them to a different person in your building in your company or you just it depends you know it it it all depends. Uh if if someone is bad chemistry or a bad person, I just don't I don't need the money bad enough to hang out with people I don't like.

SPEAKER_00 26:43

So like give me an example of somebody that you passed without saying their name like what was the experience?

SPEAKER_01 26:48

Yeah so um I remember we had a client a couple years ago come in and you know listen I don't sit with first appointments anymore with new clients. I mean there has to be a relationship or like hey this is my buddy this you know um but I just remember the guy he had a couple million dollars and and when he came in he's like listen I heard what you said on the show you don't do business with people you don't like but that doesn't matter here obviously I've got a couple million dollars you're gonna want to manage this thing and this is what I'm expecting from you and you know the immediately when you make everything about money I just have no interest in it right dude I I just don't why would I want you hang out with one person they can destroy your day man you know I mean like one bad apple right it's I just don't need it and and honestly it's paid off because people look at me and they're like Stuart you're crazy you work seven days a week sometimes and you know now maybe you know five and a half but you know I I've been working working working but I'm surrounding myself with people I enjoy so I don't care right I mean it's like look at your crew like I've seen how you've kept your crew together for a long time but you know it looks like you guys are just hanging out enjoying each other. We are it's true. Right and and so there's a point where yes it's work and that's how you get paid but at the end of the day you when you make it enjoyable you know don't forget I don't get it twisted I make money right right but I do it with people I enjoy that's the best part one of the best parts to enjoy like I come into work sometimes like I drive in and it's dark outside and I get so excited to come to work it's crazy. It's really a high for me still after this I'm you know I'm in this really interesting position where we're going through this you know kind of I wanted to pause for a little while um in terms of the growth of our company just so we can get operations under underway and more efficiencies built in and and so forth. But man, you know opportunities keep coming up uh the other day uh we opened up our television show to Reno, Nevada and I mean the response is crazy Colorado Springs where I'm on there too yeah I mean we're so your TV show though so you you do this this like it's like an infomercial not an info it's like a it's like a it's like a but it's like but it's like a newscast.

SPEAKER_00 29:11

I've I've watched it before um but are you asking people to call in to sign up so like so if somebody's in Reno watching it they're making sixty thousand dollars a year and they go I got 10 grand can you do something with my 10 grand?

SPEAKER_01 29:24

Yeah you will you take it yeah so you but you hand it to a rookie well well see that's the thing is is once again our advisors are top advisors they're not like starter guys that are learning the business these are guys that I've intentionally recruited that have sure years and years in the business that are you know that are best of you know best of class in all of their in all of their um you know industries but the advisors we deal with you know I I can't personally take on I mean you're talking about right so do you there's do you have are you hire we have other advisors if somebody's watching from Reno and just hey this guy looks honest let me call his company and you have a guy that's just like you know it's like a it's like I I remember when I was in radio sales and you get the mom and pop shop.

SPEAKER_00 30:09

So someone's got to handle it.

SPEAKER_01 30:11

Yeah you know it it's interesting because what we've done is we've pivoted the TV show from me having a host and me being the guest on there talking to I now host the shows and all of the advisors are the ones that are working in that market. So for example in Phoenix you get to pick who you're dealing with because you're seeing them you're like hey I I vibe with that guy or I like that girl or I like you know in in because I once again if but you'll take anybody no matter their income level no matter what they have you can you can make something work. There are minimums to being able to invest money right but we will sit with anybody to have the conversation. What we do you know in sometimes the conversation is like hey this is what you need to do at your employer right now because let's say the 30 year old comes in and they're like look I'm just trying to get started. I've been watching your show and I need well we can't manage their money because or even if we could it oftentimes doesn't make sense because if you're working at an employer and that employer has a four or five or six percent match I'm not gonna match their money right I'm not putting my so you'd be forfeiting free money by me saying hey put it with me in an IRA rather than your 401 at work and there's other reasons 401k is doing it. But you'll give them advice and guide them through that absolutely what's the uh what's the biggest payoff you've ever had client wise yeah the most successful turnaround like you ever had somebody that was just with nothing and you turn them around so so I think I think the most relevant story that I keep telling my advisors because here's what I don't want I don't want prima donnas that are too cool for the client right like oh I'm the fancy rich advisor I'm you know and our guys are very very successful but I always go back to the one story where I I have a client's been with us uh she was at our surprise office for years and her stepson yeah her stepson he was a guy who fixed pools like the tile on pools and he he would come in and well first she asked hey can you talk to him he doesn't have a ton of money he had like I know $40,000 or so and wanted help investing and obviously I treated him with dignity and respect and I I'm I'm very blue collar myself my my roots um and he came in and we'd treat him well and and had a great time because once again I I won't talk to you if I don't like if if you're a jerk I'm not having the conversation well fast forward three years later his wife inherits $14 million and turns into like this great huge client right and and in the pool guy's wife the pool guy's $14 million yeah now that's taken an interesting turn because yeah right after they inherited the money he gets hit by a bus and and she develops a pretty crazy illness but so life can play cruel tricks on you too but it shows my advisors leave somebody even if you can't help them leave them with a great memory saying hey I didn't just brush you out 10 minutes later because because I was seeing that I started seeing a couple advisors that were taking 15 minute appointment they literally set aside 90 minutes for an appointment they'd be in and out in 15 minutes and there's nothing you can do in 15 minutes where you're treating people well if you're having a real you're not even uncovering anything how can I help why are you here is the pool guy still with you guys?

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SPEAKER_00 33:40

Absolutely that's yeah if you're taking the 14 million and done something with it? 100%.

SPEAKER_01 33:45

That 14 million is worth how much now gosh I mean this happened about a year and a half two years ago well first of all they just you know bought an amazing house their their money has I mean listen I can't take all the credit for it because the market has been right extremely favorable to you know to them doing well but you know their money's worth a lot more today than it was you know when when they when they started and it's all based on your risk tolerance because there's also a certain port of your life where you say hey I've already won the game I want to take the least amount of risk necessary to win. That's right why would you keep gambling all on all your chips on the table when you've already won yeah right there's a certain time where you take those chips off and you say I'm willing to gamble this portion but this other portion needs to be fixed and safe and more methodical if they said to you hey we were going to go we're gonna go buy a 14 uh you know uh all these fancy cars and all this stuff would you say hey don't do that that's not that's not smart well listen man everybody has goals and dreams and my my job isn't to establish a dream it's to achieve it right and and some of them are terrible dreams or terrible ideas right the people who really mess it up are people who inherit money in fact we just did our TV show you know this yeah today filming the TV show on mistakes people make with inheritances and oftentimes three years later there's no sign of an inheritance whatsoever. So what we've done is we've started having conversations with our clients to involve the next generation now. They don't need to know how much money their parents have because I think that's a whole nother Pandora's box, right? Hey, you know, if all of a sudden you know Dutch sees that hey I've got you know daddy's money coming I don't need to do anything myself that meeting he doesn't touch anything until he's 30. Yeah see there we go right right right right but but you know they may be able to rest and depend on I've seen a lot of people not do very well because they depend on daddy's money and in in you know but I think it's important that the next generation know how to receive it properly wealthy people stay wealthy because they plan you know generational wealth which some people are opposed to uh my job is to achieve it but you know it's all about planning man having having a plan making sure you make you know the least amount of poor decisions you can have you ever made a really bad decision I have yeah yeah personally like in my personal life in 2008 2009 there was a um there was a bill that passed uh it was a the debt forgiveness act I think uh George W. Bush was responsible for that where you could walk away from your house when they were upside down. Yeah yeah yeah yeah I remember that was happening yeah yeah yeah so I did that and it was absolutely dumb you walked away from your house yeah I had bought a house in Anthem I think I paid $600,000 for it became worth like $1.2 million you know two years later and then it went down to like $2500. Well this thing isn't going to double in value in the next you know over my lifetime I'm gonna get out so I walked away from it it was absolutely dumb and because what it did is it destroyed my credit it you know I I got and then I missed this amazing boom in real estate because I couldn't qualify for a house no matter what my income I couldn't qualify for a house because I I had a foreclosure technically there's a lot of people like that now how much do you think that house is worth now yeah it's over a million dollars again you know for sure and it was our you know we were in the Anthem Country Club beautiful home and it was just dumb like so sometimes I say do as I say not as I do you know and you know it but did it take seven years to fix that it did. Yeah to clear the credit yeah I mean I think by year four or five I was able to buy a house again you know but but it ruined four or five years of amazing rebound in the real estate market one of the greatest real estate booms in history here and you know I thought I was gonna be priced out and you know we figured it out two restaurants during COVID lost my butt yeah that's during was it before COVID or it was right before it was like that's the worst that's the worst timing. It was terrible yeah I mean listen we're all gonna go through those I mean the important thing is that you learn from them you know I think wealthy people you know the mistakes they make they tend to you know have this FOMO where hey I've got a friend that he's investing in Bitcoin or investing in this or that and they want to participate because their smart friend you know made a and then they get scammed right just don't make dumb mistakes right I don't understand that Bitcoin stuff are you in that is that good we're not I mean we so we use Bitcoin an ETF from iShares inside what are we call our unconstrained portfolio which is an unlimited risk portfolio but it's not we don't trade Bitcoin itself uh I mean there's I have some concerns over Bitcoin and you know the future of it and so forth but listen I'm willing to miss that party in order to like not risk my client's future I like that I like that phrase um let me jump it around again so uh

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SPEAKER_01 38:55

your mom she must be beside herself but she saw how successful you are you said the story of your dad where's your brother in all this now so it's interesting so first of all I love my brother dearly he's a great guy uh our our families went into weird directions because my brother who married an amazing woman uh this is even funnier my brother was the most racist human being on the planet I I remember having a girl that came to the house gorgeous girl named Nicole Williams who's beautiful uh mixed black and white girl and he used the n-word what is she doing in my house what is and oh my gosh right and in fact I just saw Nicole at our high school reunion that I sponsored my gosh it's a whole nother Mexican well listen it people aren't rational right well ironically he ends up marrying a black girl oh which has four amazing beautiful kids um but he converted to Jehovah's Witness and the interesting thing is it's been difficult for holidays for example so they don't get together for holidays you know and I is it's a hard thing so it creates a cultural divide a bit you know at least with that one religion you know in and we're as open as possible like I we try to be as accepting and but sometimes it's just very difficult you know where does he live San Diego oh wow yeah Temecula oh yeah yeah he's a great guy he works his butt off he's worked for the same company forever you know he he he worked for a company uh waxy sanitary supply out of San Diego you know which the original owners Charles and Charles Wax and Randy Wax amazing human beings heard those names before yeah um let me shoot yours again yeah so last time we had lunch I don't know was a couple months ago yeah a couple months ago where you ate my last piece of steak you look like much more shredded than you did at that lunch to me well you know it's well thank you for saying that um it's jujitsu number one so thank you to Gracie Baja Scotstale I'm training for this you know I have to hit a weight class uh or if if I'm 222 pounds if you go a pound over you have to go into the unlimited class. And those guys are tougher well I just got smoked by one I literally decided to go into the open class and fought a 300 pound guy and yeah I mean if I showed you my leg it it just well you did you sent me a picture oh yeah that's crazy right yeah that's terrible yeah so after winning my class I said I'm going for the open class back to back and didn't end so well for me but so you're 222 right now and what where do you have to be 222 like right there like it's when you weigh in with your next match um I was scheduled to to fight in uh in in Austin in a in a few weeks a couple weeks in July 11th I think it was um and one in LA that same week uh but I'm injured my the injury to my shin will not be fixable in two weeks didn't you just start jujitsu a couple years ago a couple of years ago now you're flying all over the country doing it man listen we spend our that that's my thing you know it's what I do it's here's the one thing about jujitsu this is why I love jujitsu all of the financial pressures all the family pressures everything going on in your life it all turns off when you're doing jujitsu if you are not focused on that moment you're going to get choked out or submitted and in literally there's nothing else the company the business nothing personalities it all disappears you know I went through a phase like that with boxing yeah um I would get in the ring and it felt so good to get the shit kicked out of me if that makes any sense fight club man right I mean I would get punched in the it was it was crazy but I felt so good yeah I love it in fact it's fun I'm actually gonna start doing some striking down uh this guy named Tim Welch owns a place called uh Redhawk Academy uh it's where sugar sean o'Malley trains badass so I trained with those guys and I was actually on his podcast and um had a great time with them I'm gonna start doing some striking too just is it common though like you just did it two years ago I mean is is jujitsu because I remember my kids being in jujitsu yeah and my older son kept doing it for a while but he never did in a tournament like you just getting into it yeah you're a couple years in right so you're well I'm 53 years old on the 4th of July so I it's probably not so normal for someone my age to find it find it so late. Uh but you're pretty good at it I mean that's here's the thing what I realize is that I train with some of the best people in the world and I get my butt kicked every single day. Literally so when I say I'm good at it no no I'm terrible in have you won? Well I win all the tournaments I fight in but I'm fighting people my age my belt class I'm a blue belt. So how about this? I'm the best of the old bad guys right so so I think they uh you know that's why I also wanted to do unlimited so that I can kind of push the limits of you know Can I beat the this beast here that's just incredible? And you just gotta you saw the picture. I mean, the guy was a 300-pound guy.

SPEAKER_00 44:08

I saw the video the other day where you were like showing your abs, and I was like, dang, strew dang.

SPEAKER_01 44:13

Well, I've got a trip. I'm taking the trip of a lifetime here in a couple weeks to Greece. And uh, I just remember a few years or two, you two, three years ago, I was in Italy and I saw pictures, and I was just fat slob, out of shape. I just never want those pictures to appear again. So I'm not I'm not gonna be the out of shape guy for this trip because there's some pretty cool people on this trip that you know oh you're going on a trip with a group of people, not just your family. Yeah, we're we're yeah, there's a couple, you know, you know, pretty famous people on this, on this who are renting a a boat, a yacht in in Greece, and and um they may be doing some Instagram stuff, and I I do not want to be the bad guy in the background. So it's not about jujitsu, it's about the listen, it but but listen, in in college, I used to do the same thing. Even after crew is over, I used to train for football season. Well, I didn't play football, right? But I knew my shirt was gonna be off in the stand, so I didn't want to be the out-of-shape guy. So I've always got to have a purpose, like a training. Like it's hard for me just to sit on a treadmill. Like I have to have some sort of like thing I'm training for, or or I just can't do it.

SPEAKER_00 45:19

When you said you were watching uh you on the whoop, you look at all the information. Yeah, uh, like what is like what was your sleep score last night? What what do you look at? Are you looking at your steps too? Are you looking at Okay?

SPEAKER_01 45:28

So yeah, it's been really bad lately. I don't care about steps much because I know you do. We've been talking about that a little bit, and it's affecting my whoop age, not caring about steps, but my whoop age is down.

SPEAKER_00 45:41

Is it? It's a good yeah, mine's not. I'm still a couple years max. My VO, what's your VO2 max?

SPEAKER_01 45:49

You know, you know what? I don't look at that. It's on the whoop. I know, I know it's not something I-sessed with it.

SPEAKER_00 45:54

Are you? Yeah, because the higher

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SPEAKER_00 45:55

it is, the better it is for you.

SPEAKER_01 45:56

That's all I need is another metric to look at.

SPEAKER_00 45:58

That's an important one, I think. That's the one because I don't look at it in almost anything else.

SPEAKER_01 46:02

It is a big sign of longevity too, and it's something that I'll just like gosh, I know after this I'm gonna start obsessing on VO2 Max.

SPEAKER_00 46:10

I did this TV show, it hasn't come out yet, and it was this longevity show on NBC. I did one episode, and it was a VO2 Max thing, and I was like, whatever, I don't care. And when you told me about VO2 Max, I was like this. And uh it was like a 34. And and it's it's like it said I was like Is that good or bad?

SPEAKER_01 46:27

Terrible.

SPEAKER_00 46:27

Okay, and it's like at the age, I was like at the age of like 70 or something like that. Oh yeah. So I've been working out non-stop doing my cardio, and I've got an out of 40, which says it's excellent for my age.

SPEAKER_01 46:38

Well, so let's be clear. When during my last fight in jujitsu, I was winning six zero, and I ran out of gas with a minute left. I completely the biggest choke in history. I I wonder if I should post that on my Instagram page just so people can look at this monster being I lost the open class, but I won my weight division, but I was up six zero, and then he got seven points in one minute, which was just oh, he just took advantage of me. I mean, he was trying to break my leg, that's why it's all purple. But you know, but I ran out of gas.

SPEAKER_00 47:08

So he was trying to hurt you, wasn't he just trying to win?

SPEAKER_01 47:10

He says he wasn't, but I mean, you don't have a tibial contusion just right because someone's rolling around with you, you know, that takes intention, right?

SPEAKER_00 47:19

Wait, jump around to other stuff because when we had that lunch, yeah, that's when we started talking about peptides. Okay, and that's when you said something to me about a certain peptide that you were taking that blew my freaking mind. I only heard about one other person taking this peptide, and he had the same story as you. He had his body fat down to like 9%, 10%.

SPEAKER_01 47:38

Retatru tide. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 47:40

Okay. So I went and I got it. How's it been? It's unbelievable. It's crazy, right? It's it's I dropped about 25 pounds. Yeah, my body fat is now at 12.0, the lowest I've ever been. I mean, it might even be lower now. It was two weeks ago when the last time I did my body fat measured. So it's like my visceral fat's going away, my pants don't fit. I had went from the first time from a 2x, now I'm an XL. Same. It's crazy. Same, yeah. So but it's because of you.

SPEAKER_01 48:05

Yeah, well, well, thank you. Or I'm sorry if it backfires, but it's listen, peptides are crazy. Like it is, you know, it's kind of expensive, not not super bad for for Reddit, if that's all you're doing. But there's it's one of those, you know, rabbit holes again, right? Like you once you go down one, you're like, oh my gosh, look at the changes that are happening in my body. And and I'm a big fan of maxing out everything I can, right? I want my numbers to be good. I uh, you know, my body fat, I think right now I'm at I'm on 10% on the in-body. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 48:42

That's what I do.

SPEAKER_01 48:43

So, well, here's the here's the problem. I have a big bet. My business partner has a $50,000 bet with me that I can't get below 10%. Well, I had 10% on in-body. I went and had a DEXA scan, I was at 14. So I was really disappointed. Yeah, let me know how that goes. Let me know the delta, the difference there.

SPEAKER_00 49:01

Were you on the in-body that you're because there's a couple levels of in-body?

SPEAKER_01 49:04

Which in body it's the high level one at the gym.

SPEAKER_00 49:07

It's the really the one where you got to hold the things out, and then do they take the thing and they do the centerpiece on you? Because that's I haven't seen that one. That's the so it's a you hold at my doctor's office, they have it. You get on it, you gotta wipe your feet. Yeah, you get on the thing in your underwear naked, and you hold these things out, you hold these arms out, and then they have this thing, it's like a Y-scope, and they measure all this stuff. So it gets it's a little bit more precise.

SPEAKER_01 49:27

Oh, maybe not. A little bit more precise, but I'll have to tell my guys at source performance to step up their in-body game.

SPEAKER_00 49:32

But I will tell you from what I've been learning that if you can see your veins and you can see your veins, your body fat's low. I bet you you're not for what DEXA doesn't screw around either. Did you drink a lot of water? I would I would do everything.

SPEAKER_01 49:42

I don't even know how to cheat on that test. I will just to just to be able to show you. Well, do the DEXA? Somewhere in Scottsdale, I think it was like DEXA fit or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 49:51

I don't think I've heard of that.

SPEAKER_01 49:52

But I was too big for the machine, so they had to they had to like take two different or they did like a scroll that out. Yeah. Well, did you did you fit on your machine?

SPEAKER_00 50:00

I haven't done it yet. I'm doing it in two weeks on the DEXA.

SPEAKER_01 50:03

Yeah, I don't I don't know if there's a big enough one for me because of my height and size. Well, that doesn't make sense. How tall are you? I think we're about the same.

SPEAKER_00 50:11

I'm like 6'2, 6'3. Uh, I'll find out because I know I'm I'm the place I'm going to's gotta have well.

SPEAKER_01 50:16

Find out because they they literally cut off my arm and replicated my arm in this, you know, they they glued another arm digitally on. So you know that's weird.

SPEAKER_00 50:27

So what are you doing? You still doing Redda?

SPEAKER_01 50:30

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's a maintenance, a maintenance dose. Like, what's your dose? I'm uncomfortable with your questions now, but no, I'm just I don't care. I'm sorry. I don't care. I don't care. I don't just mess with it. Yeah, no, you know, it's it because it you know what's weird is it feels like hey, do people are people gonna say you're cheating? Are you you know who cares? I don't think it's cheating.

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SPEAKER_01 50:50

Well, I mean, your life is so public here. I don't, you know. No, listen, Reta is really good. I I I think I went up too high. And I it's what I told you before. Right, right, yeah. You just don't need to, right? Right. I think I was at 0.2 for uh which is 20 units, I think that was two milligrams per week.

SPEAKER_00 51:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 51:11

Honestly, that's a lot, I think. I think that's relatively it what gets high is the the the tests were all done at like eight, nine milligrams.

SPEAKER_00 51:20

I don't know the language on the syringe. So little lines. So the the little lines, you're doing 20 of those little lines.

SPEAKER_01 51:27

It depends what kind of syringe you're talking about, right? Yeah, so if it's like a like an insulin one, yeah, each major line is 10 units.

SPEAKER_00 51:36

Right. Okay. So each major line. Yeah, so the little lines are the ones below the so this is very unscientific. I I want to see what your lines are first, but so whatever the big the major line is. What let's say what's one major line? Is that a milligram? But what's that? 10. I know, but what do you call that? One milligram. That's a milligram. So you're doing two of those. Yes. Okay. I was. I do one milligram. Yeah. And I don't know how I did this. I do one on a Saturday, and then on Sunday, I do half a milligram.

SPEAKER_01 52:01

Okay, so there's an argument that that's the bad way. And here's why so what Reta is known for is that it's a a triple agonist. So Ozempic was kind of the leader of GLP1s. They they, you know, they hit one receptor. Reta hits three. It hits the um GLP one, the GIP, I think it is, and then glucagon. Right. Glucagon is the one that needs that bigger single pulse. So there's an argument that yes, you'll get less side effects, but you're missing out on a huge part of the benefits. If you do a bigger dose, but you need to do the bigger dose. All of the tests, all the trials, and it is one of the most I think they're in third stage trials right now. The problem is gonna be is when big pharma gets attached to this, they're trying to lock down all of these peptides because you can get them for nothing. You can spend a couple hundred bucks a month, or is this gonna be the drug of the wealthy? Right. Right, where you're gonna you're gonna have to spend a couple thousand dollars a month.

SPEAKER_00 52:59

Right.

SPEAKER_01 53:00

Because there's a pain a financial pain threshold where you're just not gonna do it anymore. Right. Right? Right, yeah, right. In in and I think we're starting to see um big pharma litigate for control of these peptides.

SPEAKER_00 53:12

And no, I know that's happening because they're they are gonna release the BPC and the TB500.

SPEAKER_01 53:17

Well, that's off the off the controlled list. I know um, you know, RFK Jr. is being very instrumental in making peptides available to the public, but in a better way, because all of them right now, here's the dirty secret. All of them are coming from China. They're all, you know, even if you're going to a compounding pharmacy, they're all getting them from China and in and who knows. I think we need to domesticate our sourcing better here on everything, on all medicines. Right. Right. I mean, do you remember in COVID when don't you remember the ship that they had turnaround that had all the masks on it? Like, I don't know if you remember that or not, but we needed these masks, and China's like, nope, not for you.

SPEAKER_00 53:55

They're for us. Right.

SPEAKER_01 53:57

We can't source ourselves. That's a problem. So when they control that much medicine, that much of our supply, you know, it's a it's a you know, a big issue.

SPEAKER_00 54:06

So why do I have to go up to one do it all one time? What's the bad thing about breaking it shot up on a Saturday and a Sunday?

SPEAKER_01 54:11

It's the glucagon part of it. Now, listen, I am not a scientist, I'm not an expert. No, neither mind, so none of this. I'm a I'm a biomark or a biohacking, you know, geek that tries to figure it out.

SPEAKER_02 54:22

Right.

SPEAKER_01 54:22

Most of the research and all of the trials have been on single dosing. Like there has been nothing that says we know that you'll have less side effects, right? Some of the side effects are like heartburn, even faster heart, but it accelerates your metabolism so much that you know it starts to, you know, mess with your sleep. Well, it sounds like it'd be better than to break it up for side effects, but not but but the results are dramatically, you know, less impressive.

SPEAKER_00 54:50

So, what what would what does glucagon do? So if I take it all like what's uh what's it gonna do?

SPEAKER_01 54:54

Yeah, I'm you listen, I'm crossing into an area. I am not, I'd be making it up at this time. Yeah, your your audience is gonna be like, well, that guy's an idiot. He doesn't know what he's talking about.

SPEAKER_00 55:04

I'm taking when I do it, like so far, I think it's been working for me. So I can't imagine making would I make it more powerful? I have had zero side effects, I think.

SPEAKER_01 55:11

Yeah, well, because you're at a really low dose, which is good. And you want to always do the lowest dose where you're until you stop, until you start plateauing, yeah, you know, and then you want you can creep it up a little bit and so forth. But um I do YouTube medicine.

SPEAKER_00 55:26

I'm just watching all these YouTube shorts and I'm like that's it.

SPEAKER_01 55:29

The problem is all of these influencers on Instagram that are giving you advice, none of them have, you know, they may be like chiropractors or like, you know, they're most of them aren't like medical doctors.

SPEAKER_00 55:41

So right. No, that's like me right now. If you're watching this, I don't know what I'm talking about. But in fact, the reason I do two doses is because I I did it the first week. I uh it was a couple weeks I was doing it, I didn't feel it. I didn't know, I was like, this isn't working, I'm still eating. And then what happened was I got

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SPEAKER_00 55:55

on the scale and I was down 20 pounds, and I was like, what the heck? So I remember I did a dose on a Saturday and I binged that night. I was like, it's not working. I gotta take more tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01 56:04

Yeah, but I think that's where the people you know fail, is that it's not like a GLP one like Ozempic, where all you're trying to do is stop your your your hunger pangs, right? It has other those two other features, the GIP and glucagon, whatever it has to do with mobilizing visceral fat.

SPEAKER_00 56:23

Right.

SPEAKER_01 56:23

I think.

SPEAKER_00 56:24

No, you're I think you're right.

SPEAKER_01 56:25

So um if if you get distracted by the hunger, you're you're it's a red herring. That'll say, hey, let's just go up to what the trials, because the trials were at like eight milligrams.

SPEAKER_00 56:37

Yeah, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 56:38

Yeah. So I would never do that. No, I did two weeks before my tournament, I did six milligrams, and it was just like couldn't sleep at night, your heart starts racing.

SPEAKER_00 56:50

Was that when your heart rate was like 150?

SPEAKER_01 56:52

No, I was I was I was down at like three there. Yeah, and my my heart rate.

SPEAKER_00 56:56

No, when I led it with that, you told me your heart. I was like, that's not good, dude. Yeah, concerned for you.

SPEAKER_01 57:00

My resting heart rate is uh is not as good as the condition I'm in, I think. Probably because of some of this stuff, but there's some other stuff, the another peptide, not just red over I'm doing MOTS C M O T S.

SPEAKER_00 57:11

Yeah, that's the next one I'm gonna try.

SPEAKER_01 57:12

Yeah, so so that is um what they call an exercise mimetic. So it it makes your body believe you're exercising even when you're not. So uh from a conditioning perspective, it helps. It's a m you know, metabolic booster, all that stuff.

SPEAKER_00 57:28

So take something similar to that called sloop. Have you heard of sloop?

SPEAKER_01 57:31

I do. S L U P.

SPEAKER_00 57:33

S-L-U-U-P. Yep. It's a pill. So I take it.

SPEAKER_01 57:38

There's an injectable version of it too.

SPEAKER_00 57:39

I take it pill in the morning, and then I take these immediately.

SPEAKER_01 57:42

You're right. I do have that in the pill form also.

SPEAKER_00 57:44

So you're taking that too?

SPEAKER_01 57:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:46

No, I think along with Matsy. Yeah, I think Matsy is the next thing. And then I started doing this um what's the copper thing? G-H-K-C-U? Yeah. But I do that as a cream. I don't do it as an injection.

SPEAKER_01 57:59

Yeah, so so it's an yeah, it's supposed to help with collagen formation and you know.

SPEAKER_00 58:03

I don't know. That's just part of the I don't know, man. And then I do I'm a cocktail and a D? I didn't notice any benefits from NAD. I just keep doing one shot once a week. Yeah. Um God, um what's giving the glutathione, a shot of glutathione too.

SPEAKER_01 58:21

I'll do those when I need a like infusion. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:24

Like a drip, you mean like a vitamin? Yeah, I'm getting a drip today after this interview. Yeah. And they'll put glutathione. But I started um I started working with this peptide company and they send me all these peptides uh in a package out of my house once a month, except for the red eye. You get the reddit somewhere else.

SPEAKER_02 58:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:37

And uh do they not have Reddit? No, because this company is like, you know, legit.

SPEAKER_02 58:43

You've got a shady Reddit dealer here. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:46

Well, I get whatever you get your Reddit, that's not legit. I I get mine prescribed by a doctor. No freaking way. Yeah, 100%. Because it's not, it's not, it's through the trial, it's a research peptide now, right?

SPEAKER_01 58:55

It's not. Uh well, it's it's one of those gray area like peptides. So, no, mine is prescribed by a doctor. Mine is through a friend, but but but he's the second guy.

SPEAKER_00 59:07

The guy down the street. Well, there's two guys I ever talked to that that knew on Reddit, you and him. Yeah. And it turns out he owns part of this peptide company, and he was shredded. So I was like, I'll let me do it. So I buy it from him.

SPEAKER_01 59:18

Taking advice from the guy at the gym that's come on. Yeah, here's the thing. I I think that most of it's all coming from the same source in China. Um, or people are relabeling, repackaging it. The Redd is the one thing that, you know, I'm just I'm prescribed that by a doctor. So, you know, I'm a big fan of having the best medical care on the planet. You know, I'm I'm lucky to have great doctors that have given me their cell phone, and you know, if something's wrong, I get pretty quick

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SPEAKER_01 59:50

response. But you gotta meet my doctor. I think you like my doctor. She's a badass.

SPEAKER_00 59:53

I think mine's shadier than yours. No, mine, uh, this my doctor. Not no, my I have the I have this amazing doctor. In fact, family doctor? Uh yeah, my concierge doctor, Carrie Bordinko. She's got the hyperbaric chambers, she's got the gym. That's definitely I mean, I bet you I would bet you that 50% of your extremely high-end clients go to her.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:14

Really?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:14

Yeah, you'd be amazed who's walking out of that place.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:17

That's interesting. Yeah, I mean, once again, it's that it's that rabbit hole of, you know, I have the whole, you know, uh superhuman protocol in my up. It doesn't even fit. I have a really small house, relatively, right? And I've got this area with like stretching machines and uh, you know, Ewatt. Do you do you have Ewatt? The exercise with oxygen therapy. It's part of the no, I want to get one. I have one of those. You do it it dramatic. If you want to expand VO2 max, that's that's that the bike with the tank, you watch the tank go down.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:47

You got that?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:48

I have that at the house. That's and and so um I did that for the world championships last year in training. So I'm gonna after getting gassed in my last fight, I am not that'll never happen to me again.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:59

Like, I'll should you do the hyperbaric try? Try that a few times. That'll blow your mind, man. Yeah, yeah. I've never done it. You said that's tank, not like there's a couple different levels of hyperbaric. Shit has like four, like the best of the best. Like I was there today and there was a a major league baseball pitcher coming out of there that was injured. There's Super Bowl champions in there all the time. I mean it's it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. But the the Iwatt thing, how was that was that like 10 grand?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:23

Maybe five, six thousand dollars. But but didn't I have a separate bike? Uh you call it assault bike?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:28

Well, I got one of those too. Yeah. I do that every day.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:31

So so I do it with uh with uh high intensity interval training, right? I haven't done it in a while, but it's gonna be part of my protocol here in you know, the the world championships for jujitsu uh the for the masters, for the old people is the first week of September. So about a month out when I get back from Greece, because we're doing Greece and then Santorini and then Ibiza. So if I survive if I survive that trip with these animals that I'm knowing with here, then uh, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:08

How long is the trip?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:09

So six days on the boat, three days in Santorini, three days in a visa. It's yeah, two weeks.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:15

Visa's crazy. I was too afraid to go to Visa.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:17

Yeah, so so one of the people we're going with is really good uh it's friends with John Summit, the DJ, like the biggest DJ in

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SPEAKER_01 1:02:25

the world. Yeah. So so we're like guests of this guy. So we have all kinds of crazy access. Yeah, it's I did listen. I'm just alone for the ride. It's not me. No one knows who I am.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:35

You are up that reta.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:40

I don't know if video is gonna be allowed of it on this trip here, but it's we we've got this um this text message thread of all the people going, and it's a it is the greatest, greatest threat it's a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:51

I scary to see the uh the Instagram post and post. Wait, tell me about your your the assault by workout. Yeah. What is it? What do you what do you what do you do?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:59

Because I have to So one minute on, two off, because I go a hundred percent until you do one minute on, full blast. Full blast. So it's still death. I mean, and you feel like 20 seconds. It's well because you have to be able to push your limits, right? Beyond that, yeah. So I get I remember from crew, I was that was well. Three years ago. I mean, but my gosh, I mean, I used to get my heartbeat up to 220 feet a minute, and you know, and be able to hold. And and so now, you know, I don't know, I don't remember what I get a Q on interval, but it is until you're at the verge of passing out, and then the oxygen just gets you know gets oxygen into parts of your body, your your um your connective tissues, things that are really hard to get oxygen to.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:46

Wait, so the the EWA thing is connected to the bike, or it's connected to the UQA machine, you have right, but you have a so do you have to purchase oxygen every once in a while, or is it something?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:56

No, no, no, it's it's an oxygen generator. That's the purpose of the of the bag. So nothing can keep up with your oxygen demand on on this bike. I mean, it's crazy. And what you do is it empties the bag, it takes about an hour to fill the bag and then you know 10 minutes or so to to to to empty it. You can buy a second generator and you might last 13-14 minutes on there. But I have an oxygen uh machine that I have a CPAP.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:23

Yeah. So I get it.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:28

But I'll look at this real thing. Right? Yeah, but this is this is a powerful one. I mean, this is a thing that's like you'll be in there for three days trying to fill up that bag with your CPAP. So yeah, you can you you can you know,

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SPEAKER_01 1:04:40

I think 10 or 10. You send me the lake on maybe I can you're just addicted, aren't you?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:44

I want yeah, I'm addicted to getting uh as healthy as I can. Yeah. Then your your VO2 max must be fantastic if you do that. I mean it really might. You should take a look at it later.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:53

Maybe I'll I'll take a look. I I don't know. I know I'm disappointed though with what I saw last week in the in the no in the tournament when I I I gassed out, I ran out of of oxygen.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:05

Yeah, but you're you're gonna live a long time. Like maybe you give you know you're gonna lose your ass kids doing jujitsu, but yeah, the longevity program is pretty dialogue.

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SPEAKER_00 1:05:17

Yeah, no, I'd get out of that. All right, so let's say uh someone wants to look at your company and hire you or you talk to your services, where do they go? Asset preservation.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:25

Yeah, so we can go to assetpreservation.com or apsitaxes.com. Uh yeah, we're we're API taxes. APSI Taxes.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:34

APSI dax. And what about the TV shows? Where are they? What what channels are they running? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:38

So we're on it it depends on what market you're in here in Phoenix. Um we if you look Saturday mornings at 9 a.m., we're on CBS. Uh we're a lot with we were on Sunday evenings at 6 30, but the Phoenix Sons took my spot there in uh on channel three, um uh which is uh easy family free. Uh we're on NVC, we're all over the place. If you if you are at home on a Saturday or Sunday morning and you turn your guide on on your TF television show, you'll see the asset preservation hour. That's asked. It's a half hour, but I call it the hour. So maybe I need to buy a couple. And here's the thing I mean, with a TV show, I pay to be on TV, I don't get paid. So it's it's a different business model, but the kids are. Honestly, uh, it's people that wouldn't go to like seminars or other marketing things. And you get to know us, right? You get to like have like, hey, do I like this guy? Do I not? Do I want to deal with this guy now? Because here's the truth if you don't like new TV, you're not gonna like me a person, right? I mean Kevin, I mean, listen, there is no surprise with who you are, right? You are pretty genuine with who you are on the radio. Oh my god, you know, and I think being genuine is is pretty detectable. You can you can sense it, right? So, you know, I am who I am, and take it, leave it. I think you're solved and not the right fit for everybody. I think you're solved. Thanks for jumping on my podcast. Was this good? Did you have a guitar? I think it's awesome. I had a guitar. I think it's I'm gonna get my chops busted, my balls busted here about all the you know, peptide use. I've been telling people, I've just been dieting down naturally here.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:16

So thanks for the head of these on peptides for everybody. All right, thanks, Stuart. Okay, so welcome to our podcast. This is a little bit different today because this podcast is a spin-off of our radio show.