TIKTOK TO STARDOM: HOW SHE GOT HER BIG BREAK

Radio Show Spin-Off And Sleep Scores

SPEAKER_01 0:05

Okay, so welcome to our podcast. This is a little bit different today because this podcast is a spin-off of our radio show. Uh hey, thanks for coming in. I know this is like short notice and stuff, and I had a O-ring.

SPEAKER_00 0:28

You got an O-ring. I do.

SPEAKER_01 0:30

What was your sleep score last night?

SPEAKER_00 0:32

You don't want to know. It's been like 15 this whole time. I can't sleep on the bus. But we got, what do we got? We bought some like uh sleep um over-the-counter what's it called? Umisom. We're gonna try. Because it's posted to help you like get knocked out.

SPEAKER_01 0:48

Oh yeah, but that's like a so that's like a chemical type of thing. But like uh wait, I mean not that there's anything wrong with the unisome, but like uh you gotta do the magnesium. I just had these people on that make that's what they do for a living, and they it's called um look up a jigsaw. They have it's called Oh my god, I take I take I take it every night. Two sleeps, two things, but anyway, my sleep score was an 80. My wife always gets in the 90s.

SPEAKER_00 1:10

She's like at home, that's usually I I sleep like that, but the bus is hard because you're like rocking. Oh, that's true. And then they're like going on like the the you know, there's just like we're in the back of the bus too, so you feel all the bumps like a lot. At home I sleep good, but what's your high score ever? Oh I feel like I've gotten like 98 before.

SPEAKER_01 1:31

That's pretty sick. Yeah, it's pretty good. What about you, Sam? Are you serious? Get out of here on the aura ring? I've never seen anything higher than 98 on the aura ring.

SPEAKER_00 1:40

Well, he has the whoop.

SPEAKER_01 1:41

Oh, yeah, I got the whoop too. Oh I just I'm working on my VO2 Max. Are you following that? What's your VO2 Max? That's sick. That's so good. That's so yeah, wow, that's so good. Wow. Speaking of fitness, I do want to get to your music and everything, but you guys are also like fitness influencers and stuff, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:59

I don't know if I'd call

Fitness Routine And Morning Flow

SPEAKER_00 2:00

us fitness influencers, but we do like it's important to us. Like we try to watch everything we eat, we try to buy organic food, um, try to like eat avocado oils and like, you know, just do everything that's best for your hormones. And yeah, we love going to the gym every day. It's a part of our routine. I feel like I can't function right unless we get up and go to the gym normally. On tour, there's not much time for that, but at home we love starting our day going to the gym.

SPEAKER_01 2:23

Okay, so walk me through at home. What is your morning routine?

SPEAKER_00 2:26

We wake up around like eight, eight thirty, depending if we're going to like a class at the gym. If we go to a class, it's kind of like um CrossFit style, we'll go and and do. If not, we'll just go do like um like weightlifting. Um, but yeah, we usually get there around like nine o'clock, stay there for like an hour, hour and a half, and then we get home. We either start filming. No, actually, usually usually I go put my makeup on. That's what happens. I go get ready for the day. And then like if it's lunchtime, he'll make some lunch. We usually just like go right into like filming and then um we if it's summer, we might take the dogs for a hike one day. Or that's good.

SPEAKER_01 3:00

How many dogs do you have?

SPEAKER_00 3:01

We have two dogs.

SPEAKER_01 3:02

Oh, that's good. My wife and I have a dog rescue.

SPEAKER_00 3:04

Oh, really?

Dog Rescue Ideas And Adoption Buzz

SPEAKER_01 3:05

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:06

Oh, wait, I love that.

SPEAKER_01 3:07

I should have brought puppies in. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 3:09

I would have died.

SPEAKER_01 3:10

I should have died.

SPEAKER_00 3:10

Wait, I want to go to the rescue. Can we go?

SPEAKER_01 3:12

Yeah, how long are you in town for?

SPEAKER_00 3:14

Just till tonight. I'm like, I'll go right now. I'd love that.

SPEAKER_01 3:19

We got a great, it's a great rescue. It's a great rescue.

SPEAKER_00 3:21

Oh, that's amazing. No, that's so important to me. Like, if people ask me like what I would want to like donate to or like have as a charity, it'd probably be something with animals because I just love pets.

SPEAKER_01 3:30

That's great. Maybe as your tour gets bigger and bigger and bigger in your next tour, you do one of those things where like we brought I brought our rescue puppies to Travis Scott, to Pink. Uh, we bring them in at Ariana Grande, they play with them and stuff like that. Well, because they there's all this research that it de stresses the staff. And because think about the crew at their their.

SPEAKER_00 3:49

Wait, yeah, we shouldn't do this at one of the cities. We need to like bring puppies in.

SPEAKER_01 3:53

Well, next time you come through here, I'll be able to get it.

SPEAKER_00 3:54

Because people might rescue them too. You brought them to like VIP or something.

SPEAKER_01 3:57

Exactly. We well, they do get re do try to rescue. Well, what we do is let's say we get a picture of like I'm trying to think of the last one. Like Jason Drulo. Jason Drulo was here last week, and we got a picture of him and all the dogs, and then we post them, and then people want to adopt the dog that Jason Drulo was playing with.

SPEAKER_00 4:10

Oh, gosh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:11

You know?

SPEAKER_00 4:11

Yeah, absolutely. So my my feed like knows that those get to me. Like it feeds me the ones of the one like the dogs like dying on the street, and then they like save them, or or like the ones that are like it's gonna, you know, get euthanized in how many hours and it like messes with me. I'm like, you can't show me them because they're like in another state.

SPEAKER_01 4:28

Well, you know what I always think about that, and I have a kind of a cynical, twisted mind, but whenever you see the video of like that dog that's starving, yeah, and the guy finds it behind a bush, and then you see it all of them running and playing and being beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 4:39

Yeah, I'm like, is it real? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 4:40

Well, I'm like, how do they know to film what's behind the bush? Then I'm like, what if it's the other way around and they have this beautiful, healthy dog and they starve it and then they put it in the middle of the street?

SPEAKER_00 4:48

I wonder that sometimes that would be so twisted. I really hope it's not.

SPEAKER_01 4:52

But it's so wild. But anyway, well, where do you guys live?

SPEAKER_00 4:55

Um, we live in Utah, actually. We're from Northern California. I grew up in NorCal. And then um, after I got married at like 18, we moved out to Utah and we've been there for five years.

SPEAKER_01 5:07

Like uh Salt Lake, St. George?

SPEAKER_00 5:08

Um, an hour north of that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:11

My radio show is on in St. George.

SPEAKER_00 5:12

Oh, really? We love St. George. We have friends down there that keep trying to convince us to move down there, but I don't know if I could do the heat.

SPEAKER_01 5:18

It's like Oh, is it really hot there? We're in northern California.

SPEAKER_00 5:20

It's like it's probably only like 10 degrees cooler than here. Like it's pretty hot in St. George.

Utah Life And Daily Content Planning

SPEAKER_01 5:25

So let's let's get how does how do you get well you actually wait. When you said you film after your workouts, are you filming it's like this is our routine. We're gonna get up, we're gonna work out, and then we gotta film for content for social, as like through in like an influencer point of view, or film for something else.

SPEAKER_00 5:40

Yeah, both I think it depends on the day. Um Sam also has uh my husband has his whole like cooking thing. So sometimes he'll have something to film, um, or like sometimes I'll do like a Zoom writing session. I feel like day to day will like change. So it's not like the same schedule every day, but we do try to like post on our couples page. Um, we try to post every day. So like we'll try to find either like a trend that's currently going on, or if we have something we're doing that's interesting, we'll film it in like a vlog style. Um, and then yeah, and then also if I'm have a song I'm pushing, we'll try to think of like a TikTok to film to promote the song.

SPEAKER_01 6:14

That's a great idea. So you have your music, social media. Yeah, you've got the couples.

SPEAKER_00 6:20

Like lifestyle. It's more like yeah, like lifestyle.

SPEAKER_01 6:23

And then Sam's got cooking.

SPEAKER_00 6:26

We have all these little niches going on.

SPEAKER_01 6:29

Sam, you want to pop? Can you pop in? Pop in. I want to talk about your cooking. Pop in. Are you a chef, Sam? What's your cooking background?

SPEAKER_03 6:37

No cooking background, just vibes, just like really, yeah, like uh, yeah, no school, no nothing like that. Just it's really just like content I like to watch, you know, like the the people just making satisfying cooking videos.

SPEAKER_00 6:50

And he's always been the cook in our relationship, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:52

Just basic stuff. But then we did the couples thing for

Cooking Content And The Cheese Wheel

SPEAKER_03 6:55

so long, and the last like three or four years when Jess's music started taking off, she's getting busy with that. Like, what do I do? You know, we have like stuff. She has her thing. I'm like, what do I post? And I just find myself just like scrolling, like watching cooking videos. I'm like, why don't I just make some cooking videos?

SPEAKER_01 7:10

But would you say you're a good cook?

SPEAKER_03 7:12

Yeah, I say I'm a good cook. He's good. But it's all self-taught, just like you know, that's fantastic.

SPEAKER_01 7:16

So on air did you have this gift before, like five years ago, six years ago?

SPEAKER_03 7:20

I feel like I've always been into cooking, but I think doing it for content made me try different things and get really crazy experimental with it. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 7:29

Did you ever cook for your parents?

SPEAKER_03 7:31

I feel like I would be in the kitchen with them young at a young age, you know, learning to get a few. But it was nothing crazy, you know, like that's just like basic stuff. And then it was like, yeah, and then when you get on social media, it's like you gotta make freaking creme brulee and croissants and stuff, and you know, like but I'm gonna do it. Did you do the sourdough thing?

SPEAKER_00 7:51

That's actually his mom actually got me into that. So, but you've made some for your videos because it's not as hard as it looks, but yeah, like she has some sourdough.

SPEAKER_01 8:00

They've been doing the starter thing, it's been sitting on our counter and they redo it and they redo it and they read it out. They have the okay.

SPEAKER_00 8:05

I've never actually made a starter from scratch. You just need to get it from someone, and then it's easy because yeah, but I mean eventually if you feed it, it should turn into a starter.

SPEAKER_01 8:12

That's a good point. So, what have you made on social media that but has anything ever taken off virally?

SPEAKER_03 8:18

Yeah, I would say like my big like viral moment was I had a cheese wheel, like you know those big Parmesan cheese wheels. Yeah, and I would do pasta. I had like 800 million views on like 10 different like across only 10 videos, yeah. Like just on the cheese wheel. Where do you get a cheese wheel? I ordered from Italy. Are you serious? Yeah, what did that cheese wheel cost? I think it was like it was around a thousand dollars for like half-is a write-off. So I mean, through the content.

SPEAKER_01 8:43

I mean, you know, it's oh yeah, pace for did it come to you complete and you had to start digging it out?

SPEAKER_03 8:48

Yeah, it came. You can get like whole ones where you have to split open yourself, or you can get like a half, it's already split, you know what I mean? Yeah, and so it just comes like split and it's like a smooth top, and you just like make a little hole in the middle and then you just get going.

SPEAKER_01 8:58

Was it Parmesan? Yeah. And did you when you were making the hole in the middle, did you eat it? Oh yeah, because I yeah, you get so much cheese out of here. So then you'll have a a song that you're working on and you're like, we got to get this out there. Let's make a video so it's uh a trend, right?

SPEAKER_00 9:14

Like that's the goal, yeah. I feel like with every song, you're always trying to think of like what what's something you could do or like some kind of carousel or or way you could get people to make content to your song, which is easier said than done. But yeah, you're always trying to think of trends. Or like, yeah, like you said, like me doing the trust fall thing. I think I actually saw Alex Warren started that originally.

SPEAKER_01 9:32

Um he does a lot of husband and wife stuff, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:35

They're yeah, there's do you pop in these cooking videos ever? I taste test at the end of the videos. Oh, you do? Every now and then. Yeah, it's so great.

SPEAKER_01 9:43

What is your Instagram? Which what is it?

SPEAKER_03 9:44

It's just underscore Sam Jose underscore is my name.

SPEAKER_01 9:47

You didn't throw any cooking stuff in there? What's that? You didn't throw any like the cooking title, like just Sam Jose.

SPEAKER_00 9:52

Yeah, his his uh his bio's not a chef.

SPEAKER_03 9:56

Yeah, does it say that? Yeah, that's funny. Just self-proclaimed, you know? Just can you make a good ribeye? Yeah, I feel like I can. You can?

SPEAKER_00 10:03

I don't even like steak, but I'll eat his steaks.

SPEAKER_03 10:05

Really? I don't want to like to my own horn, but lately I feel like I've been really dialing into it.

SPEAKER_01 10:10

What is the secret to a good ribeye?

SPEAKER_03 10:11

Just a lot of butter, rosemary, take your time.

SPEAKER_00 10:15

And yeah, he like asked them to cut it like a certain thickness at the grocery store.

SPEAKER_03 10:19

If you get too thin, then it just overcooks and you're done. But you gotta get nice and thick.

SPEAKER_01 10:23

Do you order steaks from somewhere or do you go just the grocery store? Well, when you said you guys are trying to eat healthy and eat clean, where what do you get? Do you get like farm fresh eggs? Do you go to sprouts? Like, where do you get eggs from?

SPEAKER_00 10:32

Yeah, I mean it's probably controversial now. I don't know if it's controversial, but what's the one that we usually uh vital farms? Yeah, I feel like they like why is that controversial? I've never I think it came out that they like are still supplementing grain or something. I don't know. But some people were like upset, but that they said it that you have to, or I don't know. But I think those are like the ones that are like they're supposed to be like free range and or pasture raised and organic. Um the most expensive ones.

SPEAKER_01 10:58

So how's your tour going? Like when did it start?

SPEAKER_00 11:01

Um, we did Europe first, and that started end of April, right? We went over there, did 12 dates in Europe, and then I had a week home, and then this is the sixth, the sixth show in um North America.

unknown 11:14

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 11:15

Yeah, we have how many do we have left? 18, 18, 17, 17.

From YouTube Covers To TikTok Growth

SPEAKER_01 11:20

Can I ask you a bunch of stupid questions? Yeah, okay. So how does it start? Like, how does because I know there's many different ways to get discovered now, right? But back in the day, it used to be you know, a record guy would go to a club and see somebody playing and performing. Like, how how does it happen? How does it happen for you?

SPEAKER_00 11:36

Well, uh like I I feel like I say this a lot of a lot of times people ask like how I decided I wanted to do music, and like I grew up with my my parents always having like American Idol and and the voice on growing up, and I just like always wanted to be a singer so bad. I don't know, I'd watch it, and there's just something in me that was just like I want to be on that stage, and so I just like begged my parents to pay for voice lessons. And so at 10 I started getting into that, and my mom would post me on YouTube. Um, and I had a couple videos kind of take off. There's like a video of me singing Wrecking Ball when I was like 11. That I think how many views does I have nowadays?

SPEAKER_01 12:11

Um a few million, five million. Wow, you do a wrecking ball, Miley Cyrus Wrecking Ball?

SPEAKER_00 12:14

Yeah, yeah. When I was like, I think I was like, I think I was 11 in the video, but it kind of went viral on YouTube um for back then. And so I had like a little bit of a following. Um, nothing crazy, but like I had my YouTube channel that I had started growing, had wanted to become a singer, tried out for shows back then. But like you said, like it is really hard, especially before TikTok existed, to get recognized unless you know someone in the industry to like have you get signed to a major label. So I feel like TikTok in a lot of ways has opened the door for so many people. Because anyone can have a song take off, and then it puts you on the radar for labels. And that's kind of what happened. I uh we we started posting our stuff in high school as TikTok took off and our TikTok started growing and had these, you know, different videos kind of have these moments, and YouTube took off for us, and that kind of allowed me it we dropped out of college and just kind of pushed social media and and dedicated our time to it. Um, and that kind of gave me the flexibility and the funding to like pay for getting music produced because it's pretty expensive initially. Um, and yeah, from there I had a couple songs kind of take off on TikTok. Um, and that eventually landed me a record deal with 10K. Um yeah, I've just been growing it since then.

SPEAKER_01 13:30

That's amazing. So you guys together were doing content in high school? You guys were dating in high school?

SPEAKER_00 13:35

Since since we were 14, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:37

Really? Yeah. That was like the main thing before. I mean, she's always been doing music, like she said, but the main like our main source of income, main full-time thing was the salmon just couples content. And then really in the last like three years, her music has been like a business of itself. And yeah, so for the longest time, it was just the couple stuff, and that's what blew up.

SPEAKER_00 13:57

Yeah, funding the music and then is there one post?

SPEAKER_01 13:59

Like, was

Brand Deals, Sponsorships, And Free Gear

SPEAKER_01 14:00

there a moment like when you get when when you're doing stuff on TikTok and and money starts coming in, is it sponsorship or is it just TikTok money? Because uh, you know, you're a creator now.

SPEAKER_00 14:08

Um, like the music industry is different than like the influencing side. The influencing side, I feel like you you do make revenue, like especially like when we were on YouTube back in the day, you would on long form videos when that was popular, you would make money doing um just posting. But nowadays with TikTok and short form, I feel like people don't pay the same for short form content. So it's I feel like you make a lot of your money off, yeah, brand brand deals.

SPEAKER_01 14:32

Um, do you have brand deals?

SPEAKER_00 14:34

Yeah, yeah. We'll do brand deals with with brands we love. And yeah, it's super fun, especially when you're working with a brand that you, you know, feel passionate about. Super fun.

SPEAKER_01 14:43

And they'll like pay you for a post, like do a post on whatever this clothing line or this makeup.

SPEAKER_00 14:47

Yeah, like I've had a long-term like partnership with Sony for music, and that's been so fun because I love their products. So it's like, you know, it's easy to work something in when you love it and use it organically. Um, but yeah, he he uses a lot of like different stuff in his cooking videos and yeah, you gotta get uh what what is there any special pans you use?

SPEAKER_01 15:05

I just got into caraway.

SPEAKER_03 15:07

Oh, I like to use hex clad or maiden stainless steel.

SPEAKER_01 15:11

Do they supply you with stuff at all?

SPEAKER_03 15:12

They have, yeah, that's so great. Yeah, it's fun, it's great. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:15

No, it's crazy, it's crazy. Like we always pinch ourselves when like you get a package with like free stuff that you know costs a lot of money. We're like, what is our life? It's super fun.

SPEAKER_01 15:25

Yeah, so would you so uh like I told you guys I had Jason Drillo in last week and I asked him what do you make more money off of? So he said there's three things he makes money off of his music, his social media, and he just bought he just got into a chain of car washes um called Rocket Car Wash.

SPEAKER_00 15:43

Um I've heard car washes can be, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:45

Yeah, but when he would during right after during the whole COVID thing, which I'm assuming you guys were together posting during COVID, he was getting a million bucks of post.

SPEAKER_00 15:54

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 15:54

A million bucks of post. But do you remember his I mean he's got 45? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:59

Well, and I think brands paid a lot more during that time period.

SPEAKER_03 16:03

Like that's I think it was like the Wild West when brands started doing influencer posts. It was like, what do we charge? I don't know. Here's a million bucks, Charlie D'Amelio.

SPEAKER_00 16:11

But now it's like very honed in on like there's so many influencers now, so it's probably not like you probably won't see as many crazy. I mean, if you're Jason Dorulo, maybe you still see numbers like that. But I feel like there's so many.

SPEAKER_01 16:21

But your followers, you guys got millions of followers. I mean, it's it's amazing what you guys have

Agents, Labels, And How Tours Get Built

SPEAKER_01 16:25

done since you're 14. Yeah, like so now, like, so you start is your first tour?

SPEAKER_00 16:29

Um, this is my second headline tour, and then I opened um prior to that one time. So this is my third time on the road.

SPEAKER_01 16:34

And so the record label you're with, are they the ones that put together the tour?

SPEAKER_00 16:38

Um, I have a touring agent, UTA. Um, I have an agent there who like routes the tour.

SPEAKER_01 16:43

Is UTA United Talent Agency? Oh, they're big time.

SPEAKER_00 16:46

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

So you're like uh like you're in the mix of it all, like it's all happening.

SPEAKER_00 16:51

It's so surreal. Yeah, I feel like sometimes I pinch myself just thinking, like, wow, like I'm really doing it in like the most legit way you can. And it's easy to sometimes forget that when you're just like doing your day-to-day thing. But yeah, I have an agent with UTA and they route the tour. Um, and then my I have an incredible manager who like I feel like keeps keeps the boat floating.

SPEAKER_01 17:11

Do they tell you, do they work ahead? Like, do you know, okay, if this works out great, then next year we're gonna get you on the tour with so and so. And then the year after that, like, is it kind of like that?

SPEAKER_00 17:19

Like you you would want, you'd hope.

SPEAKER_01 17:22

Because remember, Sabrina Carpenter, she which I interviewed her too before she was big. Yeah, it's amazing. Sabrina Carpenter like did a couple of opening dates for Taylor Swift. Yeah, Sabrina Carpenter is now selling out arenas everywhere.

SPEAKER_00 17:34

In theory, like you're hoping, yeah, when you're signed to a big agent like that, they you know have other people on the roster, obviously, that they will pitch you for, and you probably have a better chance than someone not signed with an agency for sure. It is hard. I feel like a lot of times people will pick like their friends to open, which makes sense. Like if you're big and you're you don't need an opener to help sell tickets, you might just bring someone that you know personally that you want that's fun on the road just because you have that relationship. So I feel like that tends to happen a lot. So it's it's definitely harder to get like I feel like an opening slot, but yes, being signed to an agent should in theory help a lot.

SPEAKER_01 18:08

And then when you sign with an agent, are you like do you have a do you have an album out or just singles or just one album? Or how are you what are you doing?

SPEAKER_00 18:16

You so the agents like just on the touring side, and then my label, um the that deal is structured around the music that that comes out, and so yeah, it's it's project based. So each like option period I have with them is around like an album.

SPEAKER_01 18:30

So I just had my album can come out and do you run so you when you do the album, you give it to the label, and are they all like hey, track two, change the words, change this. Do they do any of that stuff?

SPEAKER_00 18:41

Um, some labels might be that involved. 10K has always been very like we signed you because you were doing something right. And so I feel like yeah, they really do distrust their artist. Um, they'll give their opinion if I ask for it. Like, hey, like which song do you feel like people you know in the office like the most? Like I want to know. Like I don't I honestly ask for input. Like, I want to know what people like because I feel like sometimes when you listen to them so much, it's hard to tell like what's actually catchy. Um but for the most part, I feel like they really it is on the artist these days. Like, I think they know that it comes down to just marketing on socials, so they kind of just trust us to do what we want, tease what we want, put out what you want.

SPEAKER_01 19:21

You definitely got a vibe going. Both of you guys. Oh, both of you gotta get you guys.

SPEAKER_00 19:25

Well, you're a great interviewer, interviewer. I feel like yes, yeah. This is I feel like this is the most comfortable

Posting Cadence, Stories, And Algorithm Stress

SPEAKER_00 19:30

I felt a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 19:32

Do you guys always do stuff together? Like, have you ever had to say, I got like if the cooking team takes off, you're gonna be doing cooking stuff and you're gonna be like, She's like, I gotta go on tour, and you're gonna be like, because cooking, that thing is freaking huge, right? Yeah, right. That's you guys are both doing stuff that's massive by itself.

SPEAKER_03 19:48

Yeah, no, they're all like all the things we have are like full, like double full time each thing. So it's really hard to like, yeah. Like when she goes on tour, I have to pre-film like two months worth of content at home, like just all day long. So I have stuff to post still while we're on the road. Um but yeah, we try to we try to, you know, stay together and sometimes she'll have to take a trip by herself for sometimes I go for a writing trip or like yeah, or like I've worked with Sony out for photo shoots or whatnot.

SPEAKER_00 20:15

And then yeah, which is actually nice because now that he has the cooking thing going, because he can film while I'm gone. Whereas before he'd just be bored, he's like, What am I doing when you're gone?

SPEAKER_01 20:22

It's interesting the way you said I got the impression the cooking thing was just something you're doing, but it's like you you have a commitment to it.

SPEAKER_03 20:27

Yeah, no, because at first I was like, Oh, I'm just gonna like try that. It took like six months, I was just like kind of like dabbling in it, and then like of one style of video that I made just like took off, and I was like, Okay, like let me try that. And so then that was like a year and a half, two years ago that the cooking actually took off. And since then it's just been like, I mean, just create like a whole thing.

SPEAKER_01 20:49

Do you have to post do you make is it a post a day? Like, what's the rule? What do you do?

SPEAKER_03 20:52

It's like every I do like every second or third day. Like uh a couple times a week.

SPEAKER_01 20:56

What about you with your your stuff? Are you posting every day?

SPEAKER_00 21:00

I try to. My my videos aren't as elaborate as as his.

SPEAKER_03 21:04

One of my cooking videos would take like eight hours total. Oh, yeah, cooking and filming, editing, it's like tasting a lot more of like a thing. Whereas like the couple stuff is like, you know, you shoot you know 10 minutes, hers is like quick videos, which they can be more elaborate, like we're doing a full like vlog of a day or something for that page, or if I'm like lower lift videos just to like it's it's easier on my video.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

You guys are literally pros at this now. It's so interesting to pick your brain on this stuff because it's new, but it's not, I mean, you guys are doing it, you know.

SPEAKER_00 21:34

We try but the algorithm changes all the time, so we're always trying to like figure it out as we go.

SPEAKER_01 21:37

You still hashtag stuff? Hashtag like, but they say hashtag.

SPEAKER_00 21:40

But I don't I don't really know.

SPEAKER_03 21:41

No, I do it just to make myself feel better because I don't think they do anything, but I'm like, I'll just in case, you know. Just in case it's still doing something.

SPEAKER_01 21:48

Will you post something on TikTok and the same thing on Instagram? Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:51

And then and then because I heard TikTok on shorts and then on shorts on YouTube onto Snapchat as well. Snapchat.

SPEAKER_01 21:56

And is it just you two doing it, or are there people helping you?

SPEAKER_00 21:58

That's just us. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:01

The only help we have is yeah, like um management and then like brand deal manager that that does the brand deal stuff. But posting, filming is all us.

SPEAKER_00 22:08

Music side, you also have like a business manager, yeah, the the agent, the label. That I feel like is a whole machine of itself. But yeah, our stuff we've kind of just like done.

SPEAKER_01 22:17

No, but the one like your personal one is that the label does that one? That's not you.

SPEAKER_00 22:21

Oh no, no, yeah. We run all of our socials. Like we post everything.

SPEAKER_01 22:23

What's the difference between how do you know what to put on stories or what to make on a post? That's always a stressful thing for me. Because I'm like, oh it's no big deal. It's a story, let me throw it away.

SPEAKER_03 22:31

Yeah, I feel like stories are just like like just day in the life, just like this is what I'm up to. Where a post for me at least is like a full, like you know, official you're looking to go viral, basically like a post where stories are just like you're just telling your followers like what's up because your stories don't reach anybody but your followers, so you're just like you know, checking and doing Q ⁇ A's or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 22:50

Well, I don't want to keep talking about Deus Rulu, but I learned so much from him too because the dude's got you know 50 million followers. Yeah, so we're we were shooting a a TikTok. And he goes, and we were it was he had the thing set up and the light on and his new song, he was using his new song, and he goes, get up here, get up real close because you want to get up real close and then pull back.

SPEAKER_00 23:07

Oh, yeah, like do like a little intro.

SPEAKER_01 23:11

And I was like, whoa, I never because I just I just do stuff, I never think about it, right? But you guys are like uh professional social media people, as well as musicians and artists. I mean, you're a creator with chefs being a cook. Would you ever look at getting uh certified or going into culinary school?

SPEAKER_03 23:27

No, no, no way. Have you ever had someone not like your food? Is she the only person who eats your food? It's either her or just neighbors. If I make like a bunch of something, it's usually like when we I make a bunch of sweets and we're like on a diet. I'm like, yo, we can't have this in the house, so I'll we'll just text a group chat in the neighborhood and people will just come and that's good. Usually good reviews.

SPEAKER_01 23:46

Do you put them on the taste test? Yeah, he's my neighbor's taste by cookies. No, not usually.

SPEAKER_00 23:50

But you know, we actually, yeah, our friends love his cooking. We always like have them come over and try something. He's it's really good. I feel like I'm pretty picky.

SPEAKER_01 23:57

So are the friends in your neighborhood your age?

unknown 24:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:00

Yeah, mostly, yeah. Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:01

That's why we haven't left Utah. We've just like we moved into a really great neighborhood and we just like love the friends and community we've made, which makes a difference.

SPEAKER_01 24:09

Walk me through your songwriting.

Songwriting Sessions, Hooks, And “Fingerprints”

SPEAKER_01 24:10

Is it just you? Do you have songwriters?

SPEAKER_00 24:12

I do, yeah. I yeah. Usually I go into a room with a producer and then a writer or two, and um I'll usually have like a concept in mind that I want to write about that day, or or some song references, and then yeah, the the the producer will start laying down some chords until it feels like a cool vibe, and then we'll start singing melodies over it. Um try to find like a really catchy hook melody.

SPEAKER_01 24:38

And then you ever get one in your head and you're like, I gotta, I got this, I got this, I gotta figure it out. Like, did you watch the Michael Jackson movie?

SPEAKER_00 24:43

I want to. I've been dying to see it actually.

SPEAKER_01 24:46

But they show how he's like he's got this dick dick, and he's do you see him working it out, working it out. He starts writing all these notes and he's putting stuff everywhere, and you see how he the writing process was for one of the greatest musical minds of all time.

SPEAKER_00 24:57

I know I need to actually want to do that more. I was just talking to my opener about how he says like he'll find a melody and like bring it into the room. And like when I was little, I used to just like yeah, write songs like that on my guitar. Um lately it's just been like you go into a session and you like write the song together.

SPEAKER_01 25:11

Like you sit down and go, Okay, guys, let's come out with something. And do you have like a yellow pad and a pencil or you were on a computer?

SPEAKER_00 25:17

You usually do like a like a Google Doc so everyone can see, like as you type, like everyone's getting it, and you can like see us. In the same room, you're like, Yeah, yeah, you're all in like the same shared dock. And then do you go, I think you should go, uh you do that kind of stuff? Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, you're you're all kind of humming like melodies over over the the chords or whatever is being played. Um, sometimes you'll have a mic like this, and you'll do it like a pass, you call it, where you'll just like sing something with like they'll throw like some crazy, not crazy, but they'll put like auto-tune on it so it sounds all vibey and you can kind of just like freestyle and see like what sounds catchy, and then you'll um go back if it if you like it. Um usually like everyone in the room might do a pass or something, and you pick like the coolest one, and then you start writing to that melody. Um, but it is, it's it's such a fun process. I actually just wrote a song on my off day in LA, and I really love it. So yeah, sometimes you're gonna be like, it's not out yet.

SPEAKER_01 26:11

You haven't cut it yet. It's you wrote it, you haven't got the melody, or do you have it?

SPEAKER_00 26:15

No, see, when you go in, you like literally like you'll finish the day with a song, like pretty good. Like, I mean my voice is on it, but it's not out yet. No, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:25

What what is it? Just a when it's a smash, I can go here. It came out on this podcast. She was talking about it. Do you have a name for it?

SPEAKER_00 26:30

Um, I guess I don't know for sure like if it'll come out, but I think I think I think it will because I really like it. But yeah, it's called Fingerprints. Um, was the title. That's great.

SPEAKER_01 26:39

See, when fingerprints is huge, I'm gonna be like, dude, Kim. You're like, we're all waiting for Times. The uh the Toy Story 5 song. You have you heard it? Like, that's gonna be crazy. You already know that's gonna be huge. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 26:50

Yeah, it's just gonna be, yeah, you already know it'll be big.

SPEAKER_01 26:52

Who are some artists that inspired you besides Miley and Wrecking Ball?

SPEAKER_00 26:56

Um, yeah, growing up, like I my mom actually did really love Michael Jackson. I was actually um just telling the crew, she she had told me that she almost named me Billy Jean because she loved him so much, which is really funny. Um, but uh other than that, like my parents just listened to like current like pop music. So I I grew up listening to like Arnie Grande, Selena Gomez, Justin Bieber, like all those like mega pop stars from that era. So that's what I grew up with. Demi Lovato. Really? No way. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 27:27

I'm in his movie, one of his movies.

SPEAKER_00 27:29

But oh, that's amazing. I know that's so crazy.

SPEAKER_01 27:31

That's probably so surreal to see how far he's there's a couple people like that, like Katie Perry. Like Selena Gomez.

SPEAKER_00 27:37

Yeah, see, all those were like the era I grew up listening to their stuff.

SPEAKER_01 27:40

Now they're massive, they don't return my calls. I won't do that if if I ever get Are there people you've collabed with or are there people that you've met on the way that are pretty well known that you're friends with?

SPEAKER_00 27:53

Ooh, um I like the my first tour that I opened for was Natalie Jane, and her and I have stayed close and she's a sweetheart. Um I'm trying to think. Like there's people like in the industry that like you collaborate with.

SPEAKER_01 28:09

Have you met any big names yet? Just have you been is there anyone you've met that you were starstruck? Have you met anybody?

SPEAKER_00 28:16

I met Zendaya when I was really young at like a little like meet and greet thing, and that was crazy because at the time she wasn't as big as she was now. It was just like she was just on Disney, and like, but now I feel like she's just like a massive celebrity so that's that's crazy. I met like little mix when I was young. That was really cool. But the the video of me singing wrecking ball, I actually performed in front of Cher Lloyd. It was like a contest I'd won to sing in front of her. Wow, so that was that was like really cool, yeah. To perform in front of her.

SPEAKER_01 28:43

Did you see Zendaya? It wasn't for Euphoria, it was for the movie that came out called The Drama that she popped into a surprise somebody's wedding. Did you happen to see that on social media?

SPEAKER_00 28:52

I think I see about yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:53

That's my co-host. She got married in Vegas and Zendaya popped in at her wedding. No way, that is crazy. Isn't that nuts to talk about? In fact, she just messaged me that I was with her this morning and she said that one of her YouTube posts with Zendaya got 10 million, so now she can be a creator or something. Now she get paid. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_03 29:09

Now she got monetized off.

SPEAKER_01 29:10

Yeah, now she can monetize off it. She was like all excited.

SPEAKER_00 29:13

That's so funny.

SPEAKER_01 29:14

Yeah, yeah, that's that's amazing, man. So what's next? What's on the tour? Like tonight, you're you're

Influences, Starstruck Moments, And Industry Friends

SPEAKER_01 29:20

performing tonight and where are you performing and how how how's the vibe? How's the ticket sales? How's the whatever?

SPEAKER_00 29:25

Um, yeah, no, it's been such a vibe. Like, we it's my first time on a tour bus. Like, usually we've done like sprinter trailers this time we're on a bus, and so it's been really fun to experience that. Um, and yeah, my fans are incredible. So them just coming and showing up, meeting them is like my favorite part of the night. So that's been so fun. They bring the best energy. We had a show last night in San Diego, and it was like it was the smallest room on the run, but they like brought the energy. Like the crowds make such a difference.

SPEAKER_01 29:52

Yeah, where'd you play in San Diego? What place?

SPEAKER_00 29:53

Um, it was just the the voodoo room.

SPEAKER_01 29:55

Oh, the voodoo room.

SPEAKER_00 29:56

Yeah, so it was a little Oh at the House of Blues? Mm-hmm. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:59

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_00 30:00

Yeah, it was such a fun little tonight. What was the thing? No idea.

SPEAKER_01 30:04

Crescent Ballroom, I heard Crescent Ballroom. That's a great place. Yeah, it's great.

SPEAKER_00 30:07

Yeah, it's really nice. So yeah, super excited to tour it.

SPEAKER_01 30:10

So great. Congratulations.

SPEAKER_00 30:11

Thank you. Yeah, right now I've heard like it's you know, touring is really hard. A lot of artists are having to pull down tours. So I'm very blessed that like fans are coming and showing up. Um yeah, it's not like the shows haven't been like sold out. Like my first run, like we sold like almost every shop very fast. And like I think we're just in a different point in the economy right now where things are hard, but so I just feel blessed to be able to still go and and fans are coming and showing up.

SPEAKER_01 30:35

So there's a whole thing on on Gen Z not going to concerts and Gen Z not drinking. Right? You guys are health freaks, I'm sure you don't drink alcohol. Yeah, right. I don't drink alcohol, but Gen Z. Yeah, it's really big people into health and wellness and and they're not good. Concerts are expensive, so Gen Z apparently they're just not into it, you know, unless, you know, un your kid or Swift or something like that, right? Yeah, right now, but you know, that's that's a crazy thing. So you guys, uh how did your parents feel about all this? Like, you know, since they've known you guys since you guys have been together since you're 14. So like how do how do your your mom and dad are still around?

SPEAKER_00 31:10

Yeah, yeah. Um, they're yeah, such big supporters. I literally wouldn't be here without my mom. Like she was the one driving me to auditions and like I love that. Yeah, she took me to all my voice lessons. Like she's always been so passionate about music, never like pushed it on me like like that. I just like always have wanted to do this, and like we grew up with like not a lot of money, and so like I always felt like I wanted to become a singer so I could like help our help my parents pay for things or whatever it was. And so I don't know, I think it's really cool for them to to see how far it's gone off them just like taking a leap of faith with me and and and putting their money um into trying to help me develop this passion I had. So yeah, they're the greatest. They're going to come to the Atlanta show. And I'm so excited because last last tour they only saw my very first night. And

Tour Bus Life And Ticket Sales Reality

SPEAKER_00 31:55

I don't know if you know, but like first nights of of tour, there's so many things happening, you're having sound issues. There's like I'm running it through the for the first time, so there's always little hiccups. And I felt like they were impressed then. So I'm really excited for them to see. Of course they're impressed.

SPEAKER_01 32:08

That's their baby up there. Do you have brothers and sisters?

SPEAKER_00 32:11

I'm the oldest of four, so I have three, I have three younger siblings, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:14

Wow. What would we do?

SPEAKER_00 32:15

My sister came last night.

SPEAKER_01 32:16

Oh, she did? Yeah. Is she still here?

SPEAKER_00 32:18

Um no, she she came to she's going to school in San Diego, so she got to come to that show.

SPEAKER_01 32:22

Is she in in college in San Diego?

SPEAKER_00 32:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:25

Wow. Um when you guys said you were in college and you dropped out, where were you?

SPEAKER_00 32:29

We were just going to a community college um called Sierra College in Roseville, or Rockland.

SPEAKER_03 32:35

I mean, it's not even a real.

SPEAKER_00 32:36

Yeah, we were gonna do we were gonna do that and then like transfer. Yeah, I we actually both got like pretty well, I know I got pretty decent grades.

SPEAKER_03 32:43

But I didn't he he did once we started dating. I was like, I'm gonna go to school for business. No idea. Like zero because I'm like, yeah, I'm you're supposed that's you know, it's funny.

SPEAKER_01 32:56

As I'm a I'm a parent, I have three boys, and I'm going through this right now with my kids. Like, as a I never understood, like now I understand my parents were like, what are you doing with your life? And I'm like, I know what I'm doing. And my kids, like, they hit their direction. I have such a pain in my stomach, so I'm so worried about them. Right. So I understand how your parents feel, but they got to be so happy that you're on the road doing it.

SPEAKER_00 33:17

No, it's such a blessing because yeah, it's crazy to be in the position we are now to like be able to help our families when when they need, and then like I don't know, it's just yeah, it's a dream come true to be able to do what we're doing. And his mom, it's weird because we we've been together since we were 14. So his mom like also kind of raised me in a way, and so like she came. Um she just got married and went on her honeymoon in Europe, so they got to come see me play in London. Oh my gosh, how cool is that! So cool. And she was crying the whole time.

SPEAKER_01 33:45

Oh my gosh, yeah, that's so awesome.

SPEAKER_00 33:47

Yeah, so sweet. But yeah, I'm really excited. My parents are gonna be, I think they haven't seen like we have a screen this time and a whole lighting package, and I'm excited for them to see the show and like how much work's gone into it.

SPEAKER_01 33:57

God, that's that's so great that you're close with your mom. Yeah, that's what you can tell you. I have this whole theory that if you're close with your opposite sex parent, that you're a good person. So that's good.

SPEAKER_00 34:08

I've heard that, like to watch how they treat their mom because

Parents, Dropping Out, And Getting Married Young

SPEAKER_00 34:10

how they'll treat you.

SPEAKER_01 34:11

It's really important.

SPEAKER_00 34:12

Yeah, and you've always been nice to your mom, so that's good.

SPEAKER_01 34:14

Where is your sister going to school? I went to college there.

SPEAKER_00 34:16

Uh San Diego State.

SPEAKER_01 34:17

That's where I went.

SPEAKER_00 34:18

Really? She loves it.

SPEAKER_01 34:19

My nephew and my niece go there right now. Oh, really? Is she the sorority or anything?

SPEAKER_00 34:23

She wasn't. She dropped out because she she realized quickly that it wasn't for her.

SPEAKER_01 34:26

It wasn't for me either.

SPEAKER_00 34:27

The sororities, yeah. I think she was just like, this is kind of mess.

SPEAKER_01 34:30

Well, if she needs a friend over there, I can introduce her to my nephew and my niece.

SPEAKER_00 34:33

They're oh yeah, what what grade are they?

SPEAKER_01 34:35

They are uh one's a freshman, one's a sophomore.

SPEAKER_00 34:38

Okay, I think she's a sophomore. She's finishing her sophomore year, I think.

SPEAKER_01 34:41

My nephew's on the rugby team. He's like 6'5, 300 pounds, and he's the biggest sweetheart you ever met in your entire life.

SPEAKER_00 34:46

That's so funny. She just started dating a guy that's 6'5, and that was like her biggest like thing about it. She was like, Do you see our height difference?

SPEAKER_01 34:52

What if it's my nephew?

SPEAKER_00 34:53

Imagine. I don't know if she mentioned him playing rugby, but that would that'd be so funny.

SPEAKER_01 34:58

What about you, Sam? Brothers and sisters?

SPEAKER_03 35:00

I have an older brother, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:01

And what's his what's he do for a living?

SPEAKER_03 35:03

He just kind of has been traveling around doing seasonal work, seeing the country. Just like doing his own thing. Yeah, which is really good for her. It's been great for him.

SPEAKER_01 35:10

What does he think about you and your what does your mom think about your cooking videos and stuff?

SPEAKER_03 35:14

I mean, she loves it. Yeah. I think um starting doing social media when we were so young, um, and like kind of going to college and doing all that, when we told her we're like, yeah, we're gonna drop out and like quit our jobs. It was, I think she was like, she was down for it because we I had two jobs in high school. We were doing, and then we went to college, had a couple jobs while doing social media. And so it was really just like proof of concept, like, okay, we made it like we were like after making money like one month. I was like, give it six more months of making money on social media, and then we can like call it quits with calling.

SPEAKER_00 35:45

Because I went we were actually living with her, like we lived we like for six months after we got married, we were living with her while we had a townhouse getting built. So yeah, we were there like being like, Oh well, we're gonna drop out.

SPEAKER_03 35:55

Yeah, well, she was definitely scared at first, obviously, as a parent would be, but it was just like just showing her like this is like working and it's every month it's getting bigger and bigger. So it's like let's just like go full in on this. College can is always gonna be there type of thing. Never went back.

SPEAKER_01 36:09

Well, and then yeah, oh, it's paid for you to build the townhouse.

SPEAKER_00 36:12

Oh, wait, so ask that again? Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 36:14

Oh, you said you were building a townhouse.

SPEAKER_00 36:15

Uh initially, when we we uh first got married, we moved into a townhouse. We live in a like a regular house now, but but initially the fact that you could do this is paying for that.

SPEAKER_01 36:25

Oh, it's like that's what you're doing.

SPEAKER_00 36:26

Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, yeah. It was crazy that we were like, we yeah, got our first like home in a sense when we were 19, it's insane.

SPEAKER_01 36:32

Because what'd you parents say about getting married so young?

SPEAKER_00 36:34

I was gonna say that when we were in high school, he told his mom that he was gonna propose, and she was like, not till you have a degree. And he was like, No, like we're gonna get married because like we're I'm I grew up religious, and so I wasn't like I'm not supposed to live with anyone. Um, and we were like waiting for marriage as well until I get married, and so um yeah, we just wanted to get married really young.

SPEAKER_03 36:57

Both of our parents like like my mom loves her, her parents love me because we were together for four years through high school. Like, we're basically like we're gonna get married, right? You know, you can't do it. It's just crazy when it's your age.

SPEAKER_01 37:09

Was it a big wedding? Was it a simple wedding?

SPEAKER_03 37:11

We actually, it was it was uh November 2020 when we got married. So it was during COVID. Wow. So we actually had a really cool, like not elopement because our parents were there, but we were in Yosemite on like the side of a cliff. It was nuts, and her dad married us. We'll just send you pictures.

SPEAKER_00 37:26

Yeah, my dad got his like the little like day license so he could officiate, and it was just like our immediate family.

SPEAKER_01 37:31

You guys are very unique. But then we did have a wedding like six months. We had a real wedding real one. So everything about you guys is so like wild and meant to be. It's I I really hope I hope both your careers go massive. Oh, that's so sweet. That's so cool. That's so that's so it's so different.

SPEAKER_00 37:47

Thank you. No, I feel like we're really lucky. Like, I think about all the time. Like, my brother's 15 right now, and I'm like, I don't think we realized how young we were. We could have grown in very different directions, but I think we've really just grown together, which has been really cool.

SPEAKER_01 37:59

Well, especially boys mature way later. So he had been a disaster. Like, you play video games? No, you don't play video games.

SPEAKER_03 38:07

No, that's on my mom, though, because I was not allowed, which I'm grateful for that, actually. Growing up, I was like, Mom, why can't I just like play some Call of Duty? Right. Didn't allow a number. Now I'm like, yeah, I'm grateful I didn't get sucked in because you can get sucked in pretty bad on the microphone.

SPEAKER_01 38:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:22

Yeah, my brothers play, yeah. One of my brothers.

SPEAKER_01 38:25

Well, when you see your brother at 15, are you like, I can't believe we were together at 15? That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 38:30

Yeah, I'm like, I can't even imagine like when you that's like he could be meeting his wife right now. That guy was younger than you. Like, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 38:37

Ridiculous. Yeah. But is there is there anything that you've done along the way that you ever make a mistake? Do you ever go, man, that was a mistake. We're not doing that again.

SPEAKER_03 38:46

I think there's been nothing detrimental. Maybe some small things like maybe working with uh some people that like in the moment felt right, but then it was like, oh, that wasn't like the greatest. But it's I think all those things happen for a reason. Everything happens for a reason because through those hard things, maybe you met someone through that person and it and it made things better. But nothing like crazy. I feel like we've just kind of been just rolling with the fives and just like you haven't done anything where you get up there and stand on a certain politics.

SPEAKER_01 39:17

No, we just stay.

SPEAKER_03 39:17

Yeah, we stay just like out of everything.

SPEAKER_01 39:19

I feel

Haters, Rage Bait, And Wild DMs

SPEAKER_01 39:20

like social media is not meant for the what about haters? You haven't done any haters yet?

SPEAKER_00 39:26

Oh, yeah, you'll I try I try not to read the comments because I will get in my head, especially about my like like my voice, or people will comment about like how I sound or this and that, and it's so easy to get in your head about it. So I try not to read the comments.

SPEAKER_03 39:37

Honestly, I rage bait, like I like I like try to get people to hate because it pushes my video higher. I'll say things wrong or like to make something wrong just to get people to comment, and then I was like, yo, you're just like making my video get more views. Thanks.

SPEAKER_00 39:49

I think it's easier on that.

SPEAKER_03 39:50

I think when it's like But when it's her singing, it's like her voice and her passion.

SPEAKER_00 39:54

But people are brutal. I feel like you should remind yourself that I would never say something like that about someone. So if someone's in a place to say that about you, it's just like they must have some stuff that they're working through themselves.

SPEAKER_01 40:06

You are so mature. It takes a lot of long time for people to get that.

SPEAKER_00 40:10

It's easier said than done. I it'll still get to me sometimes, but you have to just remember that, like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:15

Well, what about have you got any weird people slide in your DMs, both of you? I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. You do something like that.

SPEAKER_03 40:21

I've had someone ask for like dirty socks and underwear, and you're like, that's I mean, I could go to my DMs right now and find like someone trying to buy feet pictures like to be fast.

SPEAKER_01 40:29

For you of Europe? Yeah. Probably. Hey man, did you guys watch Euphoria? That's what Sydney Sweeney did. I know.

SPEAKER_03 40:33

I'm like, how much can I make off this? Like, I saw some girl painting.

SPEAKER_01 40:37

She went to Coachella and paid for her whole trip selling feet pictures on the way to Coachella.

SPEAKER_03 40:41

I'm like, I'm thinking I'm mixing out something. Yeah. That's crazy.

Where To Follow And Get Tour Tickets

SPEAKER_01 40:45

Wow. Yeah. That's great. Well, I'm real happy for you guys. Uh, if to find you, to follow your tour, where should people go?

SPEAKER_00 40:52

Um, just on my website, jessicabio.com slash tour, is where you can get tickets, or you can find us just at Sam and Jess, Sam Jose, Jessica Bio.

SPEAKER_01 41:01

The the cooking is Sam Jose. Is that is Jose your middle name? My last name. It's your last name. So now you're officially Jose.

SPEAKER_00 41:07

I legally, it's Jessica Jose. I've just kept bio because my music's already all been listed under that. So I've just kept it like that on socials.

SPEAKER_01 41:14

Did anyone ever bring up Scott Bayo?

SPEAKER_00 41:16

People do. And you know what? I don't know if we're like actually related, but like my dad and him look very similar. So I wouldn't be surprised.

SPEAKER_01 41:23

What's your dad's name?

SPEAKER_00 41:24

Croy Bayo.

SPEAKER_01 41:25

Croy?

SPEAKER_00 41:26

Croy, yeah. Okay, so I know there's LaCroix.

SPEAKER_01 41:29

Oh, there's Scott Bayo. Then he I think he has a cousin named Jimmy and Joey Bayo, and they're all like famous actors in the 70s.

SPEAKER_00 41:35

So they they I don't know, they they kind of have a similar like look. Like I wouldn't be surprised if like there is a relation, but well, they'd be proud of you, the Bayos.

SPEAKER_01 41:44

Uh you go by their, they've been saying their name wrong the whole time.

SPEAKER_00 41:48

Yeah, because it's Italian, so that's why it's bio. Right, right. But yeah, I don't know, because I think the he says Scott Bayo.

SPEAKER_01 41:53

Right. Well, I'm so grateful you guys came in. Thanks a lot.

SPEAKER_00 41:56

Of course, thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_01 41:57

I mean, just sit on this podcast until you drop your uh till you perform at the Super Bowl, and I'll be like, I had her first. Yeah, yeah. Thank you, Scott. Thank you. Of course, of course, thank you guys. Thanks. Thank you. Okay, so welcome to our podcast. This is a little bit different today because this podcast is a spin-off of our radio show.