June 19, 2026

WE LET THE INTERNET INTERVIEW MY SON & HIS GIRLFRIEND

WE LET THE INTERNET INTERVIEW MY SON & HIS GIRLFRIEND
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Who said “I love you” first? Who takes longer to text back? And what happens when you put a couple with decades of marriage in the same room as a couple still figuring it all out?

In this episode, we sit down with our son Kemp and his girlfriend Catherine for a fun, honest, and occasionally hilarious conversation about dating, relationships, family, and all the little things that can make or break a romance.

From first impressions and awkward misunderstandings to future plans, money habits, and relationship pet peeves, nothing is off limits. We also compare dating then versus dating now, talk about staying connected in a world full of distractions, and share a few relationship lessons learned the hard way.

Whether you're newly dating, happily married, or somewhere in between, this episode is packed with laughs, relatable moments, and a few surprisingly good relationship takeaways.

00:00 - Welcome To The Couples Spin-Off

01:29 - Staying Present When Life Is Busy

02:46 - Meeting The Family And Surviving Five Dogs

06:01 - Who Said I Love You First

08:47 - First Impressions And DM Debates

11:33 - Spending Habits Romance And Green Flags

13:51 - Technology Dating And What Changed

15:19 - Five-Year Goals Vision Boards And Travel

18:05 - Dad Lessons Embarrassing Posts And Privacy

19:34 - The Best Side Of Kemp

20:32 - Family Mannerisms And Gross Jokes

22:13 - Pet Peeves Toilet Seats And Favorite Movies

24:26 - Future Marriage Advice And Communication

Welcome To The Couples Spin-Off

SPEAKER_04

Okay, so welcome to our podcast. This is a little bit different today because this podcast is a spin-off of our radio show. Okay, so this is uh the Couples Podcast uh featuring Blake and John J, Couples Podcasts on the radio station. But it's also going to be on my podcast, the John J. Van S podcast. And with us today, Blake, you and I are going to interview our son Kemp and his girlfriend Catherine.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_04

So I asked uh I went on uh social media and asked people to ask questions of you guys. But first I thought we would just see if there's anything organic that we want to come up with. If you, Blake, you have questions for them, or if you guys have questions for us. Because you guys are at the beginning of your relationship and we are at the end of ours.

SPEAKER_02

Really?

SPEAKER_04

Is there something I need to know?

SPEAKER_02

30 years in and we're at the end.

SPEAKER_04

We are I mean This is it? You know, there's very few couples that last as long as these two over here.

SPEAKER_01

Congratulations.

SPEAKER_04

You guys are quite impressive. So so I do have a bunch of questions for you guys, but I do have a bunch of questions for you guys, but Blake, do you have anything you want to ask them?

SPEAKER_02

I don't know. Kai, you put me on the spot.

SPEAKER_04

On the spot? You knew we were coming here to do a couples podcast.

SPEAKER_01

I have, but I hadn't think of it. I think I have

Staying Present When Life Is Busy

SPEAKER_01

one for you guys. So y'all are both very busy people. So again, like how do y'all keep it intentional whenever you do have the time to swim with each other? Because there's a million things going on, probably in your head of all the things you have to do. So, how do you make sure you're like in the moment with each other and not focused on all the little things going on?

SPEAKER_02

That's such a good question because now that you've been hanging out with us for the last month, you can see how we operate, which is which is very chaotic. But we try to be um, we try to put each other first and we try to like go to each other's things. So, like, because podcasts, I try to go with them, or we try to go run errands, or we try to do those things so that we're together. And on the weekends, we pretty much stay with each other. So whatever happens on the weekends, whatever's going on, we try to stay with each other. One of the things that I think saves our marriage is every Saturday and Sunday morning, we have coffee together and we play backgammon. And that's my favorite John Jay time.

SPEAKER_04

She also wants to make love at noon every day.

SPEAKER_02

Excuse me.

SPEAKER_04

Every day.

SPEAKER_02

I knew that was coming. Something totally inappropriate. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Just jokes. And I don't think that's me.

SPEAKER_02

I think that's you.

SPEAKER_04

Uh all right.

Meeting The Family And Surviving Five Dogs

SPEAKER_04

Well, here's a question for you guys. Actually, what do Catherine, what do you think?

SPEAKER_02

So your dad. So, Kathy, what in the world?

SPEAKER_04

So you've been you've been a part of the Van S family living with us for a little over a month, maybe a little over a month. So, what's been your perspective? What do you think so far?

SPEAKER_01

You know, okay, it's very different from the dynamic I'm used to, but in a good way. Like it your home is very like the environment, it's so homey, which is like obviously, but like I've never not felt welcomed or a part of it. You all make me feel very included, which I'm very grateful for. And yeah, it's just like a very loving environment. I can tell you guys love each other. I can tell that the brothers love each other.

SPEAKER_04

Do you think that it's too much? Like we do too much, is like I always feel like we're going 100 miles an hour, with the exception of like yesterday was calm finally. But do you think that there's a lot going on in this family?

SPEAKER_01

I can tell that each person has a lot going on, but it doesn't ever seem very chaotic to me, which it might to you guys, but I'm used to like I'm kind of all over the place all the time. So a million things happening at once is kind of how I operate. So it's it feels functional to me.

SPEAKER_03

I feel like we do a really good job of having family time.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_03

The family dinners in the morning, like you said, with the coffee and vacuum and even when like one person isn't here, like Dutch isn't here right now, we're still gonna have family dinner tonight. So it's like we still get like some sort of time together.

SPEAKER_02

Does it drive you crazy that there's five dogs all the time going together?

SPEAKER_01

I love it. I had a lot of dogs growing up too, but y'all's dogs just blend well together, so it's never like this big of an issue. Like our dogs in the past, we've had ones that don't get along or that are crazy, and I don't know, y'all's dogs just feel like part of the family.

SPEAKER_03

Now that they're old though, like she doesn't understand. Now that they're old and they're they're a lot more mellow. Like growing up, six dogs was way too many because they were all younger and running around and causing problems. She gets the fun part where there's like like Charlie doesn't do any that much anymore. Maggie just hides under Dutch's bed all day. Bella doesn't do anything. Yeah, they used to be pain in the asses.

SPEAKER_02

But you growing up, it wasn't just six dogs. I mean, we had the shelter in our house for seven years, so you grew up with 20 dogs running around.

SPEAKER_03

Like, that's what I'm saying. So, like now, she's like, Oh, like it's so great now. And I'm like, Yeah, now.

SPEAKER_01

But I'm also an animal person, like that's what I'm gonna do in my career.

SPEAKER_03

I have no idea what it used to be like. Yeah, it was crazy. No kind of animal.

SPEAKER_02

We literally had we literally had dogs in every room.

SPEAKER_03

I've heard, and I mean, it wasn't everyone's an animal person till puppies shit in your bed.

SPEAKER_04

So you guys knew you were coming on this podcast today, right?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Is there a reason you decided not to dress nice?

SPEAKER_03

You know what? I there actually is I I had a skin appointment before this. And I told you to look homeless. Well, last time I showed up to a skin appointment, I had pants on and I couldn't take the pants off in like a nice way to show like everything that needed to be shown. So I made sure to wear shorts. But what about the shirt? It's just a plain white t-shirt.

SPEAKER_04

I know. Okay, well, anyway.

Who Said I Love You First

SPEAKER_01

I'm just keeping it authentic.

SPEAKER_04

Here are some questions for you guys from from our audience. Um, I'm because you guys have been together now how long?

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, a little over a year and a half.

SPEAKER_04

So are you guys uh this I this isn't the question. I'm doing a pre-question. Are you guys at the I love you stage?

SPEAKER_00

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_04

You guys say I love you to each other? Yes.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, the question is who said I love you first?

SPEAKER_03

I did. I think if that's the kind of questions we're getting, it could just be me for all of them.

SPEAKER_01

That is so not true.

SPEAKER_03

It could just be the answer for all of that.

SPEAKER_01

That is so not true.

SPEAKER_03

Just I the I take so much initiative, which I learned from you. Well, but you said it first, not you.

SPEAKER_01

I was more of like I'm I don't think I'm a shy person, but I think I was pretty shy going into everything because it's all firsts. And Kemp has definitely been more of like a leader in the relationship and taking the initiative, and we've kind of been learning as we go. And so yeah, he did say it first.

SPEAKER_04

Did you say I love you back, or did you say, I know you do?

SPEAKER_01

Or ditto. No, I said it back. I said it back.

SPEAKER_04

Okay. What was your first impression of each other?

SPEAKER_03

Um Well, my first impression of her, actually, so I met her because I slid in her DMs and she didn't respond to me. So that was my first impression.

SPEAKER_02

He's iced about this.

SPEAKER_03

My first impression was that she didn't like me at all, and then it was just like, whatever, okay. Like you slid in her DMs and was like, what's up? So this was my line. And she claims it's a bad line, but I promise you it's fire. Okay. She put a picture of a farmer's market, like she was at a four, there's a lot of farmers markets in Hawaii where we went to school. And she put a picture of a farmer's market, like she's at a farmer's market. And I figured I would use something where it's not weird, and she has something to start the conversation. So I asked her about the farmer's market. And I answered, and she didn't respond for 10 days.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, no, no. He's wrong. He lies. I responded within like an hour. I told him where the farmer's market was, everything that he asked about it. And then he asked. No, no, no, that's not true. I actually, that's probably the best response you could have gotten from me because I wouldn't have answered anybody else. And then I did answer, and then eventually a little conversation happens. He asked me, What do you recommend? I'm like, I've never been in this farmer's market before. And I'm the kind of person that's like, I'm gonna tell you the truth. You were just but instead of answering, I was stressed. So I waited until I tried something and then I answered. And so that was a few days later. But I didn't ignore him. I didn't.

SPEAKER_04

Seems like you guys are off a little bit on that one. She says she responded in an hour, you said 10 days.

SPEAKER_03

No, how long did you leave my one of the messages? How we ended up.

SPEAKER_04

Wait, but so that was your I said, what was your first impression? She didn't respond to your deal. What was your what was your first impression of him? So I did when you guys first met in person.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's what I was gonna do when we met in person.

First Impressions And DM Debates

SPEAKER_01

So we met at one of the beaches on the North Shore of Hawaii. That was just like it was my roommate and I, his roommate, and then another one of their friends. So there was, or and both of my roommates, there were six of us. Three guys, three girls. And I honestly had no idea what to expect going into it. I was kind of just assuming, oh, we're all just gonna hang out as friends, like whatever happens, happens. Whenever I met him, I just immediately like he was just the nicest, funniest person I've ever met. And you could tell he was a genuine person, and it was somebody that I knew I'd want to like keep in my life and keep talking to and see where it could go. And so it was actually a really good first impression for me. But he also came off pretty shy, which he's not a shy person, and I thought he was for like the first two weeks.

SPEAKER_04

Who apologizes first after an argument? Have you guys had arguments?

SPEAKER_01

Not like anything crazy.

SPEAKER_03

The only thing we argue about, I feel like really, and it always comes back to me not listening. So I would say me.

SPEAKER_02

Like father like son?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I would say that's what it is.

SPEAKER_04

Uh who spends more money?

SPEAKER_03

I mean, I feel like that's really easy.

SPEAKER_01

Right, me.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. I mean, I just I eat the same thing every day if I can. Um, she loves to shop. I sit outside the store. Who's more romantic? Also me.

unknown

Right?

SPEAKER_03

Would you say that's also me?

SPEAKER_01

Well, like I said, he's very much the leader, so he's kind of the one that sets the dynamic.

SPEAKER_03

I would say also me. I'm trying to think of a romantic thing I've done, but now I'm blanking, of course.

SPEAKER_02

But you've put together a dinner for some of your occasions that I'm seeing.

SPEAKER_04

Who takes longer to get ready?

SPEAKER_02

Me.

SPEAKER_01

He complains about it a lot.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, what's the biggest green flag about the other person?

unknown

Green flag.

SPEAKER_03

Uh, how she treats animals and the way she does like things. Like every like what's um like if you're gonna do it, you might as well do it a hundred percent. Like I feel like that's the way she does everything, which is like like I really love that about her. Like, she's working in the dog shelter right now, and like like every bowl has to be spotless. Every dog has like it's it's crazy it's that's good quality. That's a green flag. Sometimes, like, I'm like, all right, let's just like let's let's move on, like let's like it's over, like let we don't have to be so anal about something, but like cleaning, like the kitchen, it doesn't have to be spotless all the time, but it has to be spotless all the time. What about you, Kathy?

SPEAKER_04

What's the biggest green flag about him?

SPEAKER_01

Mine is he's very attentive. He like the people he's around, he gives you his all, and you know, like he knows he's listening, you know he cares. Um if I ever bring up something like, Oh, I was trying to talk to you and you were on your phone, and I felt a little ignored,

Spending Habits Romance And Green Flags

SPEAKER_01

like it doesn't happen again. Like he he makes sure that you feel like cared for and like acknowledged.

SPEAKER_04

Who's most likely to fall asleep during a movie? I have a heart, I don't really nap ever, so most often what's something your parents don't understand about your generation?

SPEAKER_03

That's a great question. Um our generation. Do you have something?

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_01

Honestly, the only big difference is technology, but like I think it was easier, not like necessarily easier, but romance and chivalry was a bigger thing back then because there wasn't technology getting in the way. Like as he said, we met through Instagram, and I think back in the day before Instagram was his big thing, it would have been nice to meet in person and then just go off that genuine connection. But then again, we were able to meet in a way that we probably wouldn't have been able to otherwise.

SPEAKER_04

You don't think you would have bumped in each other in school?

SPEAKER_01

Well, we had previously. Oh, you had? We had. We had mutual friends, and I had seen him before, but we hadn't really talked or met, and so it wasn't really a thought in either of our heads.

SPEAKER_03

Well, she does like the marine biology, and she's really smart, and I was just baseline business with all the broken.

SPEAKER_01

We were kind of like completely different things.

SPEAKER_04

What are your biggest goals for the next five years, both of you?

SPEAKER_03

Well, that's a great question because I'm currently in the phase of life where I'm trying to figure that out.

SPEAKER_04

So you write down your goals every night and stuff, don't you?

SPEAKER_03

So but they change all the time, I feel like. I'm in it where I don't I don't know every day.

SPEAKER_02

Um you have different goals every day?

SPEAKER_03

I wouldn't say every day, but they change all the time.

SPEAKER_01

I don't like you have some goals you're working on right now.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so it's I have a question to that.

SPEAKER_01

Can I follow up to that? Oh, go ahead.

SPEAKER_04

No, well I asked him and I was gonna ask her. What are your biggest goals in the next five years?

SPEAKER_01

Like together or on our own?

SPEAKER_04

Either.

SPEAKER_01

So right now, I kind of just figured out what I want to do with my life, like the direction I want to go. So right now I'm working really hard to get into vet school. And so that's gonna be probably the next five years of my life as vet school, and then whenever I get out of that, I would like

Technology Dating And What Changed

SPEAKER_01

to be mentored, figure it out, become the best I can, and then hopefully start my own practice. So that's kind of like my five-year goal.

SPEAKER_04

That's a good goal.

SPEAKER_02

What was on your vision boards that you guys did this year, and have you accomplished any of it?

SPEAKER_03

So ours were mine was money was one on there. I know family, um church is on there, basketball was on there, uh, my own family my health was on there. So like just like wide things that I want, like wide scope things that I wanna really like have emphasis on. But there weren't any like specific have this done, have this done, that kind of thing. He talks about traveling, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And Japan was on there, so we were able to do that one. And he's got we've kind of built like a little bit of a bucket list of places we might want to go and hopefully.

SPEAKER_03

Guatemala now is one.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we just got that one today.

SPEAKER_03

Why? Because you can camp next to a volcano and you wake up when it explodes. You guys lived in an island where there's volcanoes all over the place.

SPEAKER_04

Not once.

SPEAKER_01

There aren't really like, yeah, there aren't active ones on Oahu, but neighboring islands.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, Kemp, this is from uh this is a Kemp specific question. What is something your dad taught you that you appreciate now but didn't appreciate growing up?

SPEAKER_03

Um one thing like dad used to do all the time, and I don't even know if mom used to do this, so like we'd

Five-Year Goals Vision Boards And Travel

SPEAKER_03

like get in the car, like us and Jake and Dutch, um and he would just always talk about how much like he loves like our mom and you, like without you even being in the room. So like he would just like make sure that when we have a significant other, which for me is Catherine and a woman, Jake and Dutch, I'm not totally sure, but that when we do that it's someone that likes and has cared about like our mom.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, that's nice.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, now on the flip side, what's something your dad says all the time that drives you crazy? Um do anything to drive me crazy.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know, yeah. I don't think I do anything to drive you crazy. There's nothing like off the top of my head that drives me. Um you leave yogurt lids all over the place in my house.

SPEAKER_02

It doesn't make the trash into the trash. It's it's so wild. So wild.

SPEAKER_03

It's just like weird, because like I get with like into the trash. But when they're just like you found a way to put the yogurt in the trash, but the lid isn't in the trash.

SPEAKER_02

No, he doesn't put the yogurt in the trash. I do.

SPEAKER_03

But then you leave the lid. Someone leaves just the lids around. Weird.

SPEAKER_04

What's the most embarrassing thing about having a dad who's on the radio?

SPEAKER_03

Um, honestly, I don't even think it's the radio stuff that's crazy. Some of the social media stuff I feel like I get sent a lot. Um the stuff I send you? No, like the stuff you'll post. Um people send it to you? Normally it's just like teammates, friends. Uh the dances recently have been one. You just I don't know. Do people know that it's an AI? Hope people are in the mom's laughing over there, but she's the one like that's the she's the target audience for AI. And she thought she thinks everything, all people who post AI videos of dogs and stuff dancing. Oh my god, it's she's the kind of person that believes all of it all the time.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god, the two dogs, the golden retriever, Chuck and Barry, and the they're hilarious.

SPEAKER_03

So, like I just those videos are.

SPEAKER_02

So funny.

SPEAKER_03

Nothing like that's embarrassing, really.

SPEAKER_02

Does it bother you that you live in a glass house?

SPEAKER_03

No, because I don't like I don't feel like I have personally anything that's like like so private and like we have anything going on. Like, I don't know, it just when you've when it's been that way since you were born, it doesn't like really bother you that way.

SPEAKER_02

I think that's a good question for Catherine.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, for me.

SPEAKER_02

Does it bother you that you have entered the glass house?

SPEAKER_01

No, I think I'm a pretty open book, so whenever I hear y'all's family, everything that goes on and it's on the internet, it's just whatever.

SPEAKER_03

Like it's badass, I think, when like I think it's happened like twice, maybe where like someone comes up to me and they're like,

Dad Lessons Embarrassing Posts And Privacy

SPEAKER_03

oh, like you're John Jay's son, or well, we were at the Cardinals game and someone said, Oh, like you're Kemp's corner, and I was like, and she was right next to me, and I was like, You get that?

SPEAKER_01

Like, it's actually happened a few times. So be like, Kemp's corner? Kemp's corner. Kemp's corner needs to light it up.

SPEAKER_04

Uh, what advice from your dad turned out to be right?

SPEAKER_03

There's a lot, I feel like. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

Um schmoozing dad day.

SPEAKER_03

Uh leaving places early. It's been great advice. Nothing good happens. It's funny because like, as like I've got he used to say nothing good happens past like 8 p.m. And then like I've gotten to college, and like our coach, I would say, like, nothing good happens past 12 p.m. and I was like, the way I was raised, it was 8 p.m. just because like of who he is. So like he'll say that, and I'll be like, like, what happens in between that gap of 8 and 12? Like, I don't know, but like, yeah, but like that's one I feel like that has really been a he used to like always tell me like the health stuff. Like I wish he wishes he knew like, especially when I was like growing up and I was like a teenager and before college and stuff, when he would be like like telling me all about the health stuff that matters, like sleep and rest and recovery and all that stuff. And I like I feel like I see it now, especially with Dutch, where they just blow them off, and then like eventually, like you're like, Oh, like that stuff really is important, it changes lives.

The Best Side Of Kemp

SPEAKER_04

Catherine, what's the best thing about Kemp that nobody sees?

SPEAKER_01

I actually so one of Kemp's friends came out too once and asked how I'm able to deal with Kemp not being emotional. They're like, he's just very yeah, they said that you're very to yourself, you're not emotional, so like there's not like affection or emotion there. And I was like, what are you talking about? Because I think Kemp's one of the most affectionate, caring people I've ever met, and he's also very disciplined and determined. And I feel like a lot of people just brush past that and don't realize. And I don't know if he's just more affectionate because it's me, but I never got the impression that he didn't, he wasn't like an emotional, affectionate person. But some of your friends have said that to me. So that's something I at first I was like, oh my gosh, like, is he not emotional? And then I kind of paid attention to it. I was like, yeah, no.

SPEAKER_04

I see him with you, and I think he's extremely emotional and loving towards you.

SPEAKER_01

I agree. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Uh Catherine, here's another

Family Mannerisms And Gross Jokes

SPEAKER_04

question. What's something John Jay does that made you think, yep, that's definitely Kemp's dad?

SPEAKER_03

That's a great question.

SPEAKER_01

Definitely the humor. Kemp says some gross things sometimes, and I know exactly where he gets them from. Or just like jokes he says. Um actually, it was funny because whenever we were watching the interview you were doing, there was a mannerisms where I was like, Wow, Kemp does that all the time. Like, it's like looking in the mirror.

SPEAKER_03

You know what I do all the time, and I catch myself doing it is the thing when you're standing against a wall and you put your back leg up. Do you know what I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_04

I mean, I do I don't recall. I mean, I know I do it, but you do it all the time.

SPEAKER_03

He does that all the time. And I like will catch myself doing it, and I'll be like, like, oh, like I know exactly where I get that from. You know what I've talked about.

SPEAKER_02

Usually like at an event or something.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, there's something I do that I I I get it from my dad, and it's the weirdest thing. Like, he'll do this with his nose. Have you ever done that before? I do that. You do that? It's like my dad would sit there and pinch his nose with his two fingers, and I'd be like, I would just look at it. Somehow I do I find myself doing it all the time. Uh let's see, here's another one. Catherine, this is just for you. What's Kemp's dream job?

SPEAKER_01

See, this is the worst time to ask that. Because I would have had a very solid answer, but now he's kind of changing his mind. So I think as of right now, with all the changes, maybe just owning his own business and seeing where that can take him. Um, but I do know that he also thinks. About uh maybe being an agent or starting the grad assistant to get into that. So probably either sports agent or some kind of sports management and then maybe his own business.

Pet Peeves Toilet Seats And Favorite Movies

SPEAKER_04

Okay. Kemp, what is Catherine's biggest pet peeve?

SPEAKER_03

That I do, or like or in general, um, not lifting up the toilet seat. Oh, you don't know. I don't know if that's my biggest. Well, that's like I don't know if that's her biggest, but that's just one that stands out because like especially I've never done that my entire life. And now like she gets on me for uh putting the toilet seat down. Putting the toilet seat down.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, that would be kind. And he's sometimes he doesn't lift it and then he pees on it. Oh yeah, like I don't want to sit in that clothes, thank you. And then I have a dog that goes, puts his mouth in it and drinks it.

SPEAKER_03

But that's probably not her biggest. Disgusting.

SPEAKER_01

Um well I was raised in pretty much an all-girl house, so I've never dealed with it. Right, like that's never been a thing.

SPEAKER_04

And he was raised at all pretty much an all-girl house.

SPEAKER_01

So that's normal for him and not for me. He normally doesn't go in a toilet, he goes in a bush outside. Oh intended. No, he'll walk past the bathroom to go outside in the bush. I guess it's so strange.

SPEAKER_04

Kemp, what's Catherine's favorite movie?

SPEAKER_03

Okay, she like is not a big movie person, but I would say top gun.

SPEAKER_01

That's just because I watched it recently. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

What would you say your favorite movie is?

SPEAKER_01

I think I have a few. But I don't, he's right, I don't really watch movies or TV, and it's usually recency biased if I do. But I would say of all time, probably the first Fast and Furious or The Hangover.

SPEAKER_04

Hangover's great.

SPEAKER_02

I love the hangover. These guys love the hangover.

SPEAKER_01

I really liked whatever we just watched. The Michael Jackson one I thought was pretty good.

SPEAKER_04

Do you know his favorite movie?

SPEAKER_01

This guy watched too much TV. Favorite movie?

SPEAKER_03

You have a favorite movie? I would I haven't I don't know if I have a favorite movie, but I have an answer that I always use with stepbrothers. Oh, that's great.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I yeah. That's great. That was the first movie we watched together. I fell as into the whole thing.

SPEAKER_02

The three of the boys can rattle off that movie where they always do, and I never know what they're talking about.

SPEAKER_01

Now I'm catching on.

SPEAKER_04

If you could give one piece of advice to your future married selves ten years from now, what would it be?

Future Marriage Advice And Communication

SPEAKER_03

Interesting, I think. We should go to bed and wake up at the same time every day.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Ooh, like that one.

SPEAKER_04

You think that's okay. So you plu that's advice.

SPEAKER_02

Wait a minute. Does it count if you go to bed at the same time, but one stays up and reads and then gets to sleep?

SPEAKER_01

You know what? I think that does count. Doesn't it count? I think so. But I think I know where he's going off of. Why are you laughing?

SPEAKER_03

Because I just know that's something he complains about, is him going to bed and you staying up in the world. But he wears a map.

SPEAKER_02

We all do have design schedules.

SPEAKER_04

You have mom, there's places all over the house to read. She wants to read in bed with me.

SPEAKER_02

Because we have a because I want to be close to him. I'm like that too. And and I want to be in my own comfy bed and go to the body.

SPEAKER_04

But she moves when I want to then wakes me up and whatever. You know, that's a whole other concept.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I think Kim's going off that one because whenever we first met, I'm very much a night owl. I would go to bed at 2 or 3 a.m. He's in bed by like seven. Yeah, it was definitely an adjunct. It's dark outside.

SPEAKER_04

But you think it's better going to bed early. So much better. So much better than that.

SPEAKER_01

Well, yeah, I like it now, but that was never a thing. Like even in high school.

SPEAKER_03

Five or six, then you can get it so much done. And then I freaking love it. I love getting up to eat. Not these days, but it's good.

SPEAKER_01

Like in Hawaii, it's getting up at five, going to bed at seven. It was really hard for me to catch up to, but I got there, and it's actually it is a lot better. I definitely function better. But my advice to us would be just listening. I think the small things end up adding up and they matter. And so if you're just being attentive, I'm one of those people that I like just being observant and reading the situation. And I think that really helps and pays off. Because if I say something once or point out something once, I don't want to have to point it out a hundred times, which he's pretty good about that. Or if I ask for help on something, I don't want him to be there on his phone not listening and not helping, and then I have to say it 10 times and then he finally is like, oh what? I don't like that.

SPEAKER_02

Oh that's nice that you learn that before you get married because 30 years in, it's a tough one.

SPEAKER_04

What do you mean? Oh, their phones like this didn't exist when we were dated.

SPEAKER_02

I know. We had to actually talk to each other.

SPEAKER_04

That's a big thing, you guys. You got to communicate. That's my advice to you. Agreed. Anyway, that's it. That's a good podcast, right there. We can wrap it up, couples podcast. Thank you, Catherine. Thank you, Kathy. Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you.

SPEAKER_04

All right. Okay, so welcome to our podcast. This is a little bit different today because this podcast is a spin-off of our radio show.