MICROPLASTICS, CLOTHING, AND THE TOXINS YOU NEVER THINK ABOUT

Welcome And Meet Betty White

SPEAKER_03 0:05

Okay, so welcome to our podcast. This is a little bit different today because this podcast is a spin-off of our radio show. Can you show can you bring the dog? Can you just just for a second so we can see this is Betty? This is what this is why my wife's been distracted for the last half hour because of this. Is Betty on the camera? Yeah, yeah, okay.

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And I usually am not dressed like this.

SPEAKER_03 0:39

Yeah, we're going to a country concert tonight and play.

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Where are you guys going?

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We're going to see Ella Langley at the Greek Theater in LA tonight.

SPEAKER_05 0:46

Oh, wow. We'll probably be on the same flight.

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When do you we leave as soon as this is over? Okay. Done. Awesome. Yeah. So um.

SPEAKER_05 0:53

Oh, that's gonna be so fun. Well, you look hot.

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Doesn't she?

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Yeah.

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Doesn't she?

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Yeah. I was gonna watch her tonight. I was like, my hair's tiny. I was like, this is an outfit.

SPEAKER_03 1:07

I think I need to see it a little bit more often.

SPEAKER_00 1:08

Yeah. No one's like, you guys should have told me. I live right by there.

SPEAKER_03 1:12

Okay, but wait, tell us about this puppy, please. Okay. Not you, her. Not you, but you're just holding the dog, like. Can you tell us, tell us about this is Betty White? This is Betty White.

SPEAKER_05 1:25

Yeah, no, so in all honesty, I'm finishing my PhD, as you know, and I'm in the lab like a ton, and I'm like totally not with my social crowd or my friends. And so, Grayson, my daughter got her for me, so I wouldn't be lovely.

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It's like kind of pathetic.

SPEAKER_03 1:41

But she's so Betty White's one of those dogs that you can take with you everywhere. Yeah, and you know she's really well behaved.

SPEAKER_05 1:47

Yeah, no, she's a super good girl, and she's but she gets the zoomies and she goes like crazy and then she sleeps. Yeah, but no, she's super good. And like I've taken so far, she's been Arizona, Wyoming, Montana, Colorado, um, Boston, New Hampshire, Florida, and Arizona again. Isn't that crazy? She's been to seven cities in three weeks.

SPEAKER_01 2:09

That's incredible.

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But she's chill, she's totally chill, she's awesome, she's great, and it's I love I'm an animal freak. And so it has been re it is very hard for me to be away from my animals.

SPEAKER_03 2:19

And good for you to have animals, right? But she is she a purebred Dotson? Uh probably. Is she a mix or something?

SPEAKER_05 2:26

No, she her both her parents are docs in. Oh, yeah. But it's not like they're breeders or anything.

SPEAKER_03 2:30

You're where my wife started this app. You gotta do the whole thing.

SPEAKER_05 2:32

I know, no. I usually actually gave it to Grayson, too. Yeah, yeah. And she and she wants to go. Um She's one of the OGs. I love it. she wants to go to your guys' event.

SPEAKER_03 2:43

Oh, oh, the one on November 6th. November, yeah.

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I haven't got to be. Oh, good. Oh, good. You know what I'm saying?

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Gavin de Gras?

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Did we say that already? Did we already know that when you were we saw you in Cancun? Gavin de Gras is the headliner.

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I did not know that.

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Uh he's huge. And then we have this guy. Do you ever watch that show, America's Got Talent? Have you seen it? The the runner-up was this magician, this kid magician.

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Yeah, yes.

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He was he's from here. He's phenomenal. I had him on my show twice. He's gonna be doing magic. Super cool.

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No, yeah, let us know how we can help. We'll be there.

SPEAKER_03 3:10

Oh, wait, can we put Betty White in the green room over there?

SPEAKER_05 3:14

No, I want to be there.

SPEAKER_03 3:16

You can hold Betty White over there. I might run up the car. Thank you, Hailey Palmware, for coming on the podcast today.

SPEAKER_05 3:21

Absolutely. I love it.

SPEAKER_03 3:23

Yeah, you were you're awesome. You're awesome. So I'm so grateful.

Carpet Dust And Hormone Disruptors

SPEAKER_03 3:26

I have to tell you something. I feel like in this space of health, nutrition, longevity, and stuff, I feel like I've not that I I've heard it all, but I feel that I've like, I feel like I've seen enough, like I know enough. Yes. So I was I feel like I've heard so much of everything. But then yesterday I saw the freaking post you made, and that's really messed me up. It really has messed me up. The carpet post, the rug post.

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Yes.

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Can you give us the version of that? Can you tell me that?

SPEAKER_05 3:54

Yeah, so I think people have no idea what they're exposing themselves to. I mean, the plastics, but the biggest thing is the hormones, right? I mean, we're having young girls starting their periods, we're having men back converting testosterone into estrogen, we're having calcium scores that are through the roof and are fit individuals, and it's because of what we're exposed to. Like you are the filter, right? If you don't have a filter, you're the filter. All of us, you can shake your carpet and people say, Oh, that's dust. It's also plastics, particles, chemicals. I know. It blew my mind when I saw that yesterday. Wool. You got to use wool rugs. I don't even use carpet. I use a wool rug. Um, and I sun it or breathe my rugs regularly, which means you put them out in the sunshine. We naturally have the capacity, the sun helps our all of the chemicals break down into less toxic um things. It's one of the reasons why, like, if you have sun and you don't put shade on kind of your plastic furniture, it will all degrade, right? You want that to happen out in the open air. But yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:52

Okay, so you can't. Toxins are everywhere. I I I know. And and then so today, before I come in to see, I have a routine that I do before I come in to see. I sauna, I do all this stuff after I get off the air, I do workout.

SPEAKER_05 5:04

Oh God, you're not wearing plastic when you sauna. No, but no Lululemons.

SPEAKER_03 5:07

I get out, I get out of. Oh, Lululemon underwear, you mean?

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Yeah.

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I have Lululemon Underwear right now.

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Okay. Bit them off right now. Give them to your wife. This is bad for you too.

SPEAKER_01 5:19

What's it doing to my testicles right now?

SPEAKER_05 5:21

Well, you have beautiful children, so I think you made it up. I think you shot the gauntlet, no pun intended, right?

SPEAKER_01 5:27

Oh my god. Are you kidding me with dunwork?

SPEAKER_05 5:29

But so this is the reality. Like everybody goes, oh, you're such a downer or this is such a bummer. Like, what are we supposed to eat? Air and water, and we're gonna, you know, fry air. No, you have to be pissed off that your environment is being poisoned, right? And that you're being poisoned, and you have to take active steps to detox. You have to. It's not a trend, it's not optional, and it's highly nutrient-dependent.

SPEAKER_03 5:50

So, for example, like the underwear I'm wearing, what's it doing? Like, what do you mean? Are there's just little there's rubbing it in my skin?

SPEAKER_05 5:55

So the skin is your largest organ. So do you wear you don't wear your underwear for 42 years because they do what? They break down, they fall apart. That's the breaking down process, right? Our skin absorbs that. So as things, if you get hot, if you get sweaty, right, and you're not wearing cotton underwear, the other trick that they're doing right now is they're calling stuff um organic cotton.

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Yeah.

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And that's the 10% of it that's cotton is organic, but the rest of it is plastic, lycra, um uh uh parabens, PVCs, like so. The rest of it can be poison, but if you like lace it with 10% organic cotton, all of a sudden your label says organic cotton underwear. You have to actually look at what the content is, you have to look at the tag, and it makes a huge difference.

SPEAKER_03 6:39

My son, uh my middle son is completely obsessed with all this stuff. And he bought me underwear.

SPEAKER_05 6:44

Nice.

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That is I for I wish I knew the brand. How loving is that? It's cotton underwear that he wears too, and he wears it in the sauna.

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And your sheets, I mean the sheets that you lay in.

SPEAKER_03 6:53

You're killing me right now. Well, it's not that hard. I just I just accepted the other day that the spatula I gotta get with the spatulus because of the plastic and the spatula.

SPEAKER_05 7:00

And you gotta be careful what wooden spatulas you get. You just are a brand, do you sell them on your website?

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I joked, I know.

SPEAKER_05 7:06

No, but what we do in our community is we go, so the other thing that's happening, it's happening big time in the supplement in the natural space, is Big Pharma, Big Food is buying up a lot of the brands, right? And they then take the brand identity, they take the brand loyalty, and then they adulterate the product. We saw that in Sieta, right? Brand. I mean, they look that brand is doesn't that just break your heart what's happening with the gray chips, the crortilla chips? I mean the PepsiCola chips now? Are you or Nestle that bought Thorn or actually Procter and Gamble bought Thor? Oh pure encapsulations.

SPEAKER_01 7:40

I mean, it's so pure encapsulations too? Oh yeah. You're killing me if there's some guys today.

SPEAKER_05 7:47

No, but like I had zero desire to go into the supplement space. I still I own mine 100%. Like, and I cannot tell you how hard it is to get raw ingredients. So I do help some other guys formulate. It is almost impossible to get what we want. Like we sell off, I call it crap. We sell off more than what we manuf what we bring in, more than what we put under our label. That's why we're not on Amazon, we're not in any store. We couldn't do the margins. You can't buy high quality raw ingredients and sell it in a retail environment. You can't.

SPEAKER_03 8:19

So all the stuff that I need, I can get on your website. Yeah. Like uh it's at haileypomary.com. Yeah.

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Can you spell it out?

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Because I know I spell it two different ways.

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P-O-M-R-O-Y. Uh-huh. First name, H-A-Y-L-I-E. But you can go Pomery Nutrition. Okay. You can go fast metabolism daily.

SPEAKER_03 8:34

Do you have all the stuff on do you have like melatonin on there?

SPEAKER_05 8:36

Absolutely. And melatonin is dirty. I mean, from a yo, but but good melatonin. So melatonin is phenomenal because everybody goes, oh, it helps you sleep, it helps you sleep. It helps compete with receptor sites, but also, so I'm in neuroimmunology. It is so good at immune modulation. That's why Kaiser actually during COVID, in their formulary, they started using melatonin when people were in a cytokine storm. So all these people that are dealing like with pots, but but we'll use melatonin during the day, right, to help regulate uh cortisol specifically. But also if people have a lot of different stress hormones and things like that. So I I can't speak for I I I used to develop for a total of 18 different companies. Unfortunately, all the different companies that I formulated for have all been bought out. It's heartbreaking. Things I gave my kids are have been bought out. We're holding on to our tiny brand. I'm gonna keep my name on it as long as I own it. I'm not selling it. We like we were talking as a family and as a company the other day, like we would have to rent warehouses, right, that were refrigerated so that we would have enough for our own family if we ever sold. But I

Sauna Heat Makes Exposure Worse

SPEAKER_05 9:40

it's just I don't have to, so I'm not going to.

SPEAKER_03 9:42

Okay, so I want so the stuff that I take, tell me if you can get this or you have it, like um magnesium.

SPEAKER_05 9:48

Yeah, so we have a very clean, specialized magnesium. Now, I don't believe you should take magnesium as a solo substance. It needs to have what they call cofactors. And if you don't take with a cofactor, your body strips those cofactors. So, for example, we use theanine and GABA.

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Yes.

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Yes, super important.

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I take a cytotheanine.

SPEAKER_05 10:08

Oh, so I love it blended and it works best in an in like an effervescent or an aqueous form. So ours is a powder form that has theanine and it has GABA in it, and it helps absorb. And you really want to make sure that it can have what we call cellular absorption, not just hang out in the bloodstream. So when we test, so our community, we run labs for everybody, anybody, whatever. We do it at cost, because I it's a pet peeve of mine that you have to beg your doctor and get gasolit to get a lipid run, you know what I mean, or pay your insurance. It's $11.60 to run that. It's $5.50 to run a thyroid panel. And people don't even realize that, right?

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Right.

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But like with magnesium specifically, you have to make sure that it actually gets into the cell. So as we formulated, we were running what we call RBC. We we looked to see what got into the red blood cell so that we could see if it was actually a permeable formula. So much of what you buy isn't. And there was a great magnesium product that we used for uh probably for decades in my clinic that recently sold. And it and it's awful, but uh heartbreaking. I guess I'll say this because it's full of uh, first of all, a terrible form of magnesium. They strip out all the cofactors because that costs money, right? So right away, if you're buying magnesium from a company, it's got 12 ingredients in it, big pharma buys it, let's say Procter and Gamble Gamble, um Pfizer's been buying a ton, Nestle's buying like crazy, and they strip, you know, eight out of the eight out of the 12 products, then there's it's a profit margin, right?

SPEAKER_03 11:32

Like they do, they make it cheap, they make it cheaper for them to make it cheaper. I mean, it happens with restaurants all the time when they're with franchises and chains. So when you buy the magnesium and the thinine or thinine, is it it's a scuba, it's not it's not capsules.

SPEAKER_05 11:45

So no, I would not do magnesium and expensive. So that means you gotta put it in water or something. You have to put it in some sort of liquid. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 11:49

So here's the thing for me is that I'm trying to reduce the amount of times I pee in the middle of the night.

SPEAKER_05 11:53

Yeah, but so if you're peeing too much in the middle of the night, your body isn't, your pH isn't balanced, right? You're not utilizing your minerals efficiently. So you should, you know, we always say uh drink and pee, no IV, right? Like you should stay hydrated so we don't have to give you intravenous hydration like we do if there's an emergency. Um, but you should have a nice balance throughout the day. And if not, there is there can be an indication that your electrolytes are off for sure.

SPEAKER_03 12:16

Yeah, I drink all I drink water all day and electrolytes all day.

SPEAKER_05 12:19

That's good, yeah. All day, but then but do you ever do any pH testing?

SPEAKER_03 12:22

I don't know. I just did a whole bunch of tests a couple weeks ago, and I'm gonna tell you why in a minute, but I did a whole bunch of electrolytes are dirty, dirty, they're another dirty one.

SPEAKER_05 12:29

You have to take a look at the bottom. I know I have yours, I love yours, the London ones. Yeah, yeah, those are. They're hard to manufacture though. Like we sell out of those all the time.

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Really?

SPEAKER_05 12:36

Oh, they're crazy. Like we have teams, we have some NFL, we have teams that buy a ton, and I'm always like, ah, let us know because it's it's so hard to get that raw ingredient. Like I go to Milan, we go to um uh the Italy is a great one. We get our like our enzymes are out of Belgium. Um, actually, England, our protein powder is a lectin-free chickpea out of Belgium. Like we have to globally source, and then we third-party test outside of the country, we third party test once they come in the country, and then we third party test once it's blended.

SPEAKER_03 13:07

Do you have like a factory also? Do all this stuff come in somewhere?

SPEAKER_05 13:10

You so we we use a manufacturer that we contract with. Oh, I don't own the machines. No, they're a German derived.

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Okay. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 13:17

So I'm hey, hi, I'm neurotic. I'm neurotic. But you've got to realize I've been in the clinical setting for 31 years. So it does not matter to me if I sell a supplement. It matters to me if I make a clinical change in a client or a community member.

SPEAKER_03 13:33

How about creatine?

SPEAKER_05 13:34

No, never.

SPEAKER_03 13:35

You're not into creatine.

SPEAKER_05 13:36

You couldn't pay me to take creatine. Why? There has been like a maybe.

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I keep hearing all these great things about creatine. Yeah, it's good marketing now, isn't it?

SPEAKER_05 13:43

Oh yeah, shiatine. It's great marketing. Yeah. Heard it. Sorry, I just probably gave somebody a huge plug. You couldn't pay me to do it.

SPEAKER_03 13:50

Oh, it's called chiotine. I thought you just made that up.

SPEAKER_05 13:51

It genuinely is.

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Oh, no, no, I haven't thought you made it.

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You couldn't pay me to do it. So it depends, like, so we are actually looking under the microscope. We're looking at the blood cells, we're looking at labs, we're actually doing, you know, working from a clinical perspective. I am in in an injury, have I ever used it? Maybe in my 31 years twice. Um, how it's being used now, I think it's extremely dehydrating. I think it can, I mean, we test cortisol curves after people have been doing

Clean Supplements And Brand Buyouts

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creatine on a regular basis. I will say, I think it plays. Um, if you have elevated genetic lip uh lipoprotein little A, and you have a tendency to get elevated um uh calcium score, I do not touch. Like I'm like, like, get it out. That's my that and and I could give you white paper after white paper after white paper.

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Because I heard it's the most tested supplement in the world, and it's supposed to be really good for you. This is one of those clips right here that's gonna go viral. But look who's testing. No, this is a viral clip right now.

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Look who's testing it, the supplement company, right? It's like we cannot be in natural health and act like Big Pharma. We need to stop it right now. Look, if we are into healing the body and not like, ooh, healing the body, although I believe in energy healing and all of that, if we're gonna practice true science, right? We have to give the body the nutrients so that it can repair. And we can't be just like Big Pharma where we're like, we're gonna give a pill and it's magical, and we're gonna fund a study and tell you you can make anything statistically look positive. I had a statistics professor just the other day in our um pharmacology department do a whole statistical thing and say it's impossible to get pregnant, right? Like you can manipulate statistics however you want. But we in the natural health industry have got to stop acting like big pharma and big food. We have to have science-based checks in place that show if you're going to use a nutrient, it has to make an impact.

SPEAKER_03 15:43

So, who are these people that keep saying the the creatine? I got also people that are selling it.

SPEAKER_05 15:49

Have you had one, have you seen, show me one study with someone that doesn't have a direct revenue stream?

SPEAKER_03 15:53

You know what's funny is I've never seen a study. I just heard. Yeah. I just heard that it's mostly. Plus, I'm not gonna go look at a study.

SPEAKER_05 15:59

Right. It's kind of like, you know, you saw me get really after um not eating, right? Like I'm a big, you've got to focus on food for fee for healing, you've got to focus on nutrients. Cleansing, detox, balance your immune system, building muscle, having this conversation is a nutrient-dependent event. So we're the only species, right, that the word diet is a dirty word. When you have, I worked with the black rhinos at the Denver Zoo, I work with the chimpanzee population at the Nebraska Zoo. When we talk about their diet, it's to create longevity, it's to increase their health, it's to increase fertility, right? So I always say diet is did I eat today? Like whatever it is that you want, we've got to lurk and turn towards food and nutrients. And because of our current environment, we also need to detox.

SPEAKER_03 16:43

And you how do you work with chimpanzees? What do you do with the chimpanzees?

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So I worked with to develop a nutrition plan. Yeah.

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Like hey, the monkeys like it.

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No, you know, we've got to realize that. So I always think of I every experience that I've had in my career, I think of it as um, it's been training for what we're dealing with right now in our environment, right? So learning how to keep an animal in captivity that isn't meant to be in captivity, healthy, alive, vibrant, fertile, right? Um, it was all nutrient-based. They weren't saying like get in a sauna and get a cold plunge. And you know, I'm sorry, not that I'm just saying we're like, plunge, monkey, plunge. No, right? They're saying what is the number one line of keeping anything under stress healthy? It's nutrients. When you get picked up by an ambulance, the first thing they do is stick nutrients in an IV, right?

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Period.

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So we have to realize that if we're gonna be under this kind of crushing stress, if carpet's gonna be an issue, if your Lululemon underpants are gonna be an issue, like we have to feed you right.

SPEAKER_03 17:42

Okay, wait, I won't jump back to this. So, sauna, Lululemon, I go, I get out of the sauna and I'm thinking about your video about the carpet. I put on my Adidas plastic slides. Okay, I walk into my backyard, I do the hot tub, I jump in the cold place.

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Get a cotton towel and lay it out.

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I put this, I put my slides back on, and then I go, I walk, I I walk to my I have a shower in the backyard and I stand on my plastic grass, right? And I'm sort of going, oh my God, I'm so then I go stand on a, I have a basketball court. I stand on the basketball court, that's it's sport court, it's plastic basketball court. Yeah. And I was trying to get some vitamin D in the sun, and I'm like, I'm getting the vitamin D, and I'm like, I'm just surrounded by plastic.

SPEAKER_05 18:19

And you're vasodilated at the time, right? One of the most amazing things about the infrared saunas is they increase our red blood cell, our capillary fill, right? So they actually help with nutrient delivery, they help with lymphatic drainage. I mean, you can see whether you do thermography or however your test, there is great tests on saunas, actual science, right? Um, so you're actually more open and receptive to the plastics than you ever were, right? Because your blood flows better.

SPEAKER_03 18:45

So I'm getting more plastic in my body after the sauna.

SPEAKER_05 18:48

So so those kinds of things is just check like I always say if you're if you don't have a filter, you are the filter, right? And when you're more susceptible, when you've come out of exercise, when you're hot, when the body temperature is increased, when you're doing something to increase blood flow, the toxins are more susceptible to you. And they manifest in the form of disrupted sleep, you know, blocked arteries, elevated LDLs for sure, right? Elevated cholesterol. We they're lipid-soluble, they're fat-soluble toxins, midsection weight gain, cellulite. Those are things that our body does in order to survive that fat-soluble toxic environment.

SPEAKER_03 19:26

So what do we do?

SPEAKER_05 19:27

Well, I'll tell you what we do, right? And we've had incredible clinical success. We have a community where we test. We don't just like blindly go, what are you gonna do? We do do cleanses and detox. They're incredibly nutrient uh dense. It's important that you feed the liver, the kidney, the liver.

SPEAKER_03 19:45

Is that the detox you sent me? Yeah, because I've got to do that. Okay. I was gonna ask you about it because that was just funny. I got all this blood work done.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:51

And I did the blood work, and then I did the other thing where they check all your vitamins. I forget what that's called.

SPEAKER_05 19:56

Yeah, neutral or something like that.

SPEAKER_03 19:57

Something like my doctor, you met my doctor. Yeah, she's amazing. So she did that. And then and I have a meeting with her in a couple days, but she texted me and she's like, You need to cut this all. I'm I'm doing too much, too many vitamins, too many whatever. She was cut, cut out. So I so I cut, so then you sent me the thing, and I'm like, okay, I don't want to do this yet because I'm meeting with her to go over things. Right. Then I thought, I'm probably gonna lose it a little bit at Thanksgiving.

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Right.

SPEAKER_03 20:19

You know, and then I thought, maybe I do the cleanse after Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_05 20:21

Amazing, amazing, amazing. Or even if you can do it before Thanksgiving, it increases your it increases your rate of burn. So I always say if you are gonna throw junk, have a roaring fire, right? Not a bunch of pile of wet logs. But what

Detox Cleanses Built On Nutrients

SPEAKER_05 20:35

is a cleanse?

SPEAKER_03 20:35

Tell me about the cleanse.

SPEAKER_05 20:36

So the cleanse is it's a very targeted and strategic food list. It's a style of eating where you're eating five times a day or you're doing a shake five times a day. I'm drinking mine right now. I just got off the plane.

SPEAKER_03 20:46

Is that the shake that I would have the same shake? Okay.

SPEAKER_05 20:48

So it has kale, spinach, arugula, it's got um pomegranate, turmeric, um alpha lipoic acid, things that are facilitate phase two liver detoxation. It's like a powder, put it in that. It's a powder. With water. Yep, yep, with water. It's lectin-free, chickpea base, but it has a ton of spirulina. Again, I think when you use an organic whole food product, one of the most important things is that it's we triple third-party tests, but it's third-party tested. You can have You're out of control.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

I know in a good way, though.

SPEAKER_05 21:14

But, but, but like we just had a person that came in and we did a 30-day cleanse with her. Her sex uh binding hormone globulin has been elevated and her pituitary hormones, which they What does that mean?

SPEAKER_03 21:26

Your sex is a good one.

SPEAKER_05 21:27

Um it's a liver hormone that is like this little protein carrier that helps carry hormones around uh the in the blood.

SPEAKER_03 21:34

But it's not like it makes her hornier.

SPEAKER_05 21:37

No, but it can make you not receive things in the receptor site. Okay. So it can lower libido, it can disrupt, it can so if it's elevated, it can actually impact, like you can be like, oh, your hormones are great, but your sex binding hormone globulin's high, and therefore you don't realize the benefit of your hormones, right? We see this a lot with people that have um perchlorates high. So we do a lot of testing. We do very specific and strategic. Testing. You're gonna laugh, but I actually developed this cleanse when one of my best girlfriends was diagnosed with breast cancer. We were actually both nursing still. We had two little girls, like she had her little girl, I had my little girl, she was diagnosed with metastatic breast cancer, and she had estrogen receptive positive cancer and a toxicity level that was through the roof. Her heavy metals, her plastics, her uh perchlorates were super high. We ran a whole uh host of toxicology labs. So the first thing that I wanted to do was help her body metabolize efficiently fat-soluble toxins. I also wanted to put binding agents, incredible high fiber. But remember, all of that, it's it's biochem. So my, you know, my third, second degree is in biochem. Sorry, I get confused. First animal science, then biochem, then public health, then nutrition, now neuroimmunology. But um I say that because like the biochemistry of how our body handles these toxins, whether it's the underwear or it's toxic-based, you know, breast cancer in this particular situation that was estrogen receptor positive. So I developed it actually first when she was going through that. She had gone through chemo. Um, she had this very high level of toxic exposure as well as hormone imbalance. Um, it's been since, like it got super trendy because I I'm really lucky. Um, we're a small family-owned company, but people like Jennifer Lopez and Robert Downey Jr., like they go on, they don't work for me, they don't, I don't pay them anything. But like when Jen was on um Most Beautiful Woman, she talked about this being so important. Oh, you mean when she was in People Magazine? And Robert did the same thing. Angela Bissett went on national television. Like the the reason why, you know, we're like I said, we're a tiny company. I'm a scientist, right? People like that that just thought, like, look, this has made a huge impact in our lives. Like when um Angela was getting ready for Black Panther, she went on like all these TV shows and was talking about her nutritionist and fast metabolism diet. And yeah, like it was but it's like like how kind is that, right? Right, right. How wonderful is that? I don't we don't have influencers in our space. Like I'm Haley, I'm me. Right. And and we're just fortunate enough to get to work with all these.

SPEAKER_03 24:07

We just named like three or four of the biggest actress in the world. Angela Bassett, Academy Awardner, Robert Dowdy Jr., at least been nominated before. Jennifer Lopez, one of the biggest movies and singers of all time. I mean, Robert Daddy Jr., he's gonna be in the big he is in the biggest movie of all time, event game. Yeah. But he's got the new one coming out.

SPEAKER_05 24:21

But how cool is that that someone feels that their health has been impacted and they're just that kind and generous. Right.

SPEAKER_03 24:28

They're not like a like a lot of times I'll see uh uh um a person I find.

SPEAKER_05 24:31

Oh god, look at all the influencers. Right. And I'm like, do you actually take that stuff? I have a guy right now, a client, right? I have two clients right now. I can't even say this, but they're they're um, they wouldn't take what their face is on. And I'm shipping right now to somebody that I'm like, didn't you face that in front of another company? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 24:51

But like, I you know, I I I it it's like I believe I buy this stuff, like I bought I like Huberman, I buy half his stuff, except for I bought the AG1 and then I heard it's not good. I know I stopped taking it. Yeah, you know, I stopped taking it because of Brian Johnson, who was pushing his own stuff.

SPEAKER_05 25:05

Yeah, yeah. You know, we're not like again, I'm in it. We we have this amazing community. Right. And I'll tell you, oh, so so this person with the hemo with the sex binding hormone globulin, like we she we did a 30-day cleanse with her because there was something.

SPEAKER_03 25:17

The 30-day cleanse you created. Oh yeah, for her. So she's like, I'm all in, Haley, I'll do it.

SPEAKER_05 25:21

So she's in our community. She started with a 10-day, we looked at her labs on like, let's take it to 30. Five years of labs, five years of labs where her thyroid hormones were off, where her sex binding hormone globulin, which is really hard to modify because it's liver-based, right? Where her LDL was off, like resolved. Like, so that's where I just go, okay, it's nutrient dependent, you guys. People lose a lot of weight. That's where it got really popular, right? Every we was on extra 10 pounds in 10 days, how everybody gets ready for the red carpet. And I'm like, you can totally burn fat. Like you'll probably lose a good 14 pounds if you want to. Well, not if you do, but we do like either in body, we do DEXA scans. I love a um a lipid DEXA scan um adiposeite. So we check for visceral fat. We look where the fat is. If and if anybody like goes, how where do you do this? You can be a member for 30 days for free. Like we have such a high retention.

SPEAKER_03 26:14

But where do you do the DEXA scan?

SPEAKER_05 26:15

So we send it, we find out where you're at.

SPEAKER_03 26:17

Oh, so you and then you say go to this clinic here and then go, yeah, yeah, okay. Because I have the my doctor's got the in-body, I do the embody.

SPEAKER_05 26:23

I like the in-body. Is it like the 820 or something?

SPEAKER_03 26:25

It's the one where you stand. I know she said it's the it's the expensive one. You stand on it, you do the thing, and then you're super important.

SPEAKER_05 26:33

So if we're gonna put somebody on a cleanse and a detox, what I want to do is burn fat, but carry away that toxin so they don't retox, right? That's how you get weight loss that lasts. Like people cannot eat, people can do juice cleanses, but if you don't do nutrients, you're not so like our goal is to build muscle during those 10 days, scavenge fat, and help rebalance the hormones.

SPEAKER_03 26:53

Like so you're also exercising.

SPEAKER_05 26:55

Yeah, you feel like amazing. Yeah, yeah. I've had people do cromagras and you know, all kinds of crazy fun things while they're on the cleanse.

SPEAKER_03 27:02

Your friend that was so she did had the cancer so and the thyroid thing. So you you you're detoxing, you're cleansing, and it is just kind of like resets everything, kind of it does reset.

SPEAKER_05 27:12

But the other thing, so you've got to first remove the toxic exposure. So when we talked about carpet and underwear, right? You've got to remove we so we do an assessment. We have like kind of your 10 points that you look at. We do this every 10-day cleanse challenge, and we do a free challenge twice a month. Like just how to cleanse and detox, right? Um, we suggest that people grab the kit if you want to do like a full-body one. But we go through 10 points of things and really easy. Like, I don't want to be a Debbie Downer. My people live in the world. I live in the world. I flew, I'll fly three times today, right? Like it happens, but I also, you know, had an autoimmune disorder, was on a ton of medications, had massive health crises, and I feel like a million bucks.

SPEAKER_00 27:52

John Jay is getting an MRI total body longevity scan. It'll scan from basically his head all the way down to mid-thigh.

SPEAKER_02 28:00

My father died at the age of 66 of a massive heart attack. My mother died at the age of 66 with uh glioblastoma. Here I am, a dad of free young boys. They're really young. So I've been obsessed with my health pretty much ever since. So I'm really excited about the full body scan. I'm excited about the heart scan, but I'm also excited about the full body scan to make sure there's nothing up here. It'd be great to be two for free. So I'm really excited to get those results. I feel pretty good about that.

SPEAKER_00 28:27

The whole process takes about an hour from start to finish. It's a very easy, painless procedure. Just have to lay there quietly and try to be as still as possible.

SPEAKER_02 28:36

And I always feel at ease when I come to Simon Med. It's like family here.

SPEAKER_03 28:43

But you also have been doing stem cells too, right? That's the city. Yeah, I love stem cells from Rafael Gonzalez.

SPEAKER_05 28:48

Rafael Gonzalez, my befivel. Absolutely. Like I use Restem. We all, I mean, I'm super open about that. And I have sent clients to Moscow, to France, to Spain. Like I've been in the stem cell space for over 25 years. I love that. I love when I hear this from you. And I and for me, when it was time for me to get them at a terrible car accident, when it's time for me to get them, I went to Restem. And I can go to anybody, right? So, and I that's just being but like I look at it like when Robert or Angela or Jen like were like, this is what I use, you know, as part of my regimen. They didn't do it because they're endorsing me. I'm not doing it because I endorse, you know, anybody, but it's that's what I use for my.

SPEAKER_03 29:26

too?

SPEAKER_05 29:26

No, I'm no I'm not saying that. I'm saying like when they talk about our products and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 29:30

But you go, you went to Restem, which you rehelp with his with his Robert or Robert uh Rafael Gonzalez's time.

SPEAKER_05 29:35

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 29:36

So you've been doing stem cells for that long, so you believe, absolutely believe in something.

SPEAKER_05 29:39

Yeah, so I didn't do stem cells personally until probably four years ago. Um, but I've had clients. I've I so presented them 20 years ago in Moscow.

SPEAKER_03 29:48

Absolutely. But here's the thing when people ask me about stem cells, like I believe 100% in the stem cells. But they're like, do you feel different? And and I don't know if I feel different, but I know that my life is different. Yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_05 29:59

So so remember, and and even Dr. Gonzalez was talking about this, it's all nutrient-dependent, right? Like you're doing exercises. So I I just had I had a client this morning, believe it or not, in Fort Lauderdale um at 7 a.m. Um Like you were there with him this morning.

SPEAKER_03 30:12

I was there with him this morning.

SPEAKER_05 30:13

I had a private client that actually flew in from Colorado. I met them in Fort Lauderdale, and then I jumped a plane to come to you. Thank you. Um love it. But um we were talking about like we always do an assessment in October's a big month for our community. We do like our labs and we make sure we're we have a plan to wrap up the end of the year. We look at our goals, um, all of those kinds of things. And we were talking about her activity level, her VO2 max, her strength, her hormone ratios. Like we have what I like is like lower on the estrogen, higher on the progesterone, midline in the um uh testosterone for a woman. I don't believe in pellets. Everybody hear that loud and clear. They're full of toxins, that's how they're time released.

SPEAKER_03 30:55

What about troches?

SPEAKER_05 30:57

If they're not, if they're not, if they're clean, yeah, totally game. Um, but like we have like her like all dialed in and her ratios, and she's like, it's weird because she goes, I can't put my finger on it, but I definitely am younger, like feel younger, stronger today. Like I just had all my labs run. Like, they're so much better than they were in my 20s when I was four. I feel like full disease, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:18

And I think

SPEAKER_05 31:19

And we got older.

SPEAKER_03 31:20

Yeah, that's how I feel.

SPEAKER_05 31:21

And we got older. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:23

I feel like I'm in much better shape, much better everywhere than I was back then.

SPEAKER_05 31:26

Cognitive. I mean, like I now I don't I I don't tolerate anything but feeling fan-fricking tasty.

SPEAKER_03 31:35

Do you drink at all?

SPEAKER_05 31:36

I really don't.

SPEAKER_03 31:37

I don't either.

SPEAKER_05 31:37

I don't tolerate it. Like it's the Indian me, I'm not sure, but like I'm glad I don't. Indian native. We have Indian and Irish, and it's like wouldn't be a good drinker anyway. My body has never tolerated it. And my kids don't either. It's kind of funny. We joke about it. Like, even when they went away to college, they were like, We got your genes. I'm like, sorry. Um, I don't, it's like such a detriment to your health.

SPEAKER_03 31:58

Are your kids very involved in this space now that you started?

SPEAKER_05 32:00

They started very yeah. My son actually runs, he's the COO of my supplement company, which is amazing. Yeah. And my daughter does a lot of our marketing stuff, so they're very involved. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:10

But are they very do they live the lifestyle?

SPEAKER_05 32:11

Absolutely. Wow, that's great. What's nice is when I travel with them, like we're like, do you have a shake? Do you have a probiotic? Like, it's

Probiotics That Actually Stay Alive

SPEAKER_05 32:17

so funny. Probiotics, because probiotics are a weird space. I'll just say that in the supplement space. If yours aren't blister packed, which ours are, if they're not nitrogen purged, like you're not getting much that's alive, period, right?

SPEAKER_03 32:28

They just Do you sell those too? Do you gotta keep them refrigerated?

SPEAKER_05 32:31

Mm-mm. Because they're uh nitrogen purged. It's a super expensive pain in the ass process, but it's the way to make sure that they're alive. And there's a couple tricks. Like I always say, tell people, grab your enzymes, go home and grab your enzymes, and you can do this to mine. Grab your enzymes, and if you open them up over oatmeal, it should liquefy your oatmeal. That means you have a decent enzyme or a good enzyme. Mine will make your oatmeal like syrup, watery, right? The other thing with a probiotic, open it in milk. And if it if the lipids don't scatter, you don't you see the separation of lipids, your probiotic's not doing a damn. I live it, I like honestly, it saved my life.

SPEAKER_03 33:08

Well, it's like my beautiful wife over there who has your puppy in her lap. She uh she had a hysterectomy about a year ago. And then she's had some issues where the doctor said she has to have probiotics or something happens. So she takes the probiotic every day. And if she doesn't, things happen.

SPEAKER_05 33:23

Big difference, yeah. Yeah. So one of the things that we find with probiotics too, if they're not alive, they have what really good, what we call transient benefits, which means as soon as take them, take them, take them, take them, they work.

SPEAKER_04 33:34

Right.

SPEAKER_05 33:35

But as soon as you stop, they don't re-inoculate. So they don't re-culture. So the goal is to reculture so that you're you're um getting ones that actually stick, they actually start to form colonies and they actually compete with either the bad bacteria or the bad fungus or the bad parasitic stress.

SPEAKER_03 33:52

So you have to take them every day? I mean, it's something for the rest of your life?

SPEAKER_05 33:55

Well, it depends because we have so much exposure, especially to what they call surfactants, soaps, right? Like there's soap. If you're not, you'd say you No, don't tell me soaps, dude. So let me tell you a little

Glyphosate And The Gut Bug Trap

SPEAKER_05 34:09

fact. You're gonna love me. Do you think glyphosates are bad for humans?

SPEAKER_03 34:14

If I can't pronounce it, yes. So I don't know what a glyphosate is.

SPEAKER_05 34:16

Roundup. Do you think Roundup is bad? Yeah, do you think it's bad for the human uh being? Yes. It is not.

SPEAKER_01 34:22

Roundup the spray?

SPEAKER_05 34:24

Okay. I let me tell you the trick here. So when they made Roundup, it was actually first developed as an antibiotic because it disrupts a metabolic pathway called the shikamate pathway. Humans don't have a shikamate pathway. That's how they got away with selling it, exposure to human population. But our gut bugs do. So it doesn't kill us, it kills our immune system, it kills our gut bugs. And if you go to the manufacturer's science, the science of how they went through the FDA to actually get it approved, it was because it disrupts the shikimate pathway. And they said humans don't have that metabolic pathway, so humans are fine, weeds do, but so do your gut bugs. So it kills your immune system.

SPEAKER_03 35:05

So it is bad for humans.

SPEAKER_05 35:07

Absolutely. Right, right. It kills all of your fluoride.

SPEAKER_03 35:10

They lost millions and millions of mega.

SPEAKER_05 35:12

But the way they're getting away with it is they say, nope, the humans don't have a shikimate pathway. And our drug mechanism is shikamate pathway disruption. And we but but like people need to take the next leap and say, read their own science and realize that it so because we're all exposed to so many glyphosates, you're constantly killing your gut bugs. Many years ago, when I was first practicing, I would say even 25 years ago, we used to be able to reinoculate with a probiotic about every three months. But we didn't have the shikamate pathway disruptors that we have now. And and it's not only in Roundup, there's a lot of other um um anthohometic, um antiparasitic, um, anti-uh microbiota chemicals out there that are destroying our gut flora, right? So you do need to re-inoculate. So, like in our shake, we have pre and probiotic in every shake. We also have phase two, phase one liver detoxification in every shake. Because you're trying to get rid of the toxins, you're trying to burn fat, increase your rate of fat burn. Think about it this way if fat is a safe place for you to store toxins, you will be weight loss resistant unless you bind your toxins. Because your body will say, if I open my fat cell, which is full of triglycerides, and I release that into the bloodstream, I'm going to repoison. So, what the what we do in like in the 10-day cleanse or the 30-day cleanse is we want to entice the opening of the triglyceride, release of the triglyceride. We want to bind that toxin and we want to heal the gut, the liver, the brain. We want to work on the mechanisms of the body so it can detox more efficiently. So I don't mean to belittle the weight loss. The weight loss is awesome. Like we have people, we have we call it 10-day cleanse junkies that are like bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, repent for 10 days, like lose the 10 pounds, and then they're like, woohoo! Like, because it also speeds up your rate of burn. So, like, you're better with your like I had a guy that called me, he went to Outback Steakhouse and he just finished a cleanse. And he's like, I had to call my son to have him pick me up because I had a glass of wine. I was knocked on my ass from the alcohol because of the liber metallic.

SPEAKER_03 37:13

Tell me, don't eat the blue and onion. I love the blue and onion.

unknown 37:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 37:16

So, anyway, so so the goal is is to optimize your health, burn fat. Fat is a powerhouse of energy in our bodies.

SPEAKER_03 37:25

I've heard that before.

SPEAKER_05 37:26

Yeah, when you whether your cholesterol is.

SPEAKER_03 37:27

Grass-fed butter, yes.

SPEAKER_05 37:29

Am I grass-fed butter? I so I, you know, I I raise grass-fed uh organic um cattle. So I have Angus, 100% uh genetically Angus, and I have all heritage grass, and we water the grass with an aquifer. So, yes, I have I have beef. I like beef.

SPEAKER_03 37:48

How do you know if your body without being can you tell if your body needs probiotic without getting it tested? Is there a side effect?

SPEAKER_05 37:54

Is there something I I yeah, like so a couple things. One, coating of the tongue. Um, any any body odor, right? Like if your gut microflora is good, you don't get BO, right? You don't get um bad breath. You don't get, you know, you can have like periodontal disease, but guess what that is? That's a bacteria overgrowth.

SPEAKER_03 38:15

What about uh uh scraping your tongue? Do you believe in that?

SPEAKER_05 38:18

Um oil pulling, scraping the tongue, I think it's great. I think it I think it can stimulate, but my whole thing is why are you needing to, right?

SPEAKER_03 38:25

Oil pulling is a legit thing. I think that was.

SPEAKER_05 38:27

It is, no. So so think about it. SIBO oil, right? Is that what it is? Um I like I'll use like an organic olive oil. I I if you have, if you so like with my SIBO clients, this is why our community uh small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. So everybody's always worried about lower intestine, large intestine, right? When people talk about the gut microbiota. Our small intestine is actually what produces our natural GLP1. And so one of the biggest things with this food noise issue that people have, and then they go on this horrific shot, right? Is we are having low GLP1 production, but it's because the bacterial overgrowth in the small intestine. Everybody forgot about the small intestine for a while. I'm not sure why. Like we're super focused on that. But anytime you're having heartburn, acid stomach, um, grinding of the teeth, that's a huge one to look out for. Um individuals that have um, you know, constant chapp lips, they have thirst issues, any salivary enzyme hit or indicator, if they don't have sugans, which is an autoimmune disorder, um, we look at are they producing enough lipase? Are they producing enough hydrochloric acid? What's going on in the pancreas? And we always nurture and look at small intestine. Now, oil pooling, because whatever we're exposed to in our tissue, we have a response, right? So if we bathe our mouth with those lipids, our body will produce more lipophilic, lipid-loving enzymes. So I like it.

SPEAKER_03 39:53

So how often do you do it? And how do you do it?

SPEAKER_05 39:56

So I would I usually like a happy birthday to me. Like, so I'll put it in my mouth. I would say at least three times a week, a couple times a week. Uh-huh. Happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me, happy birthday. Yeah. And I try to actually change, like, if there's if with if a person has like a real coated tongue, if they're prone to mouth ulcers, um, I like an organic raw sesame oil.

SPEAKER_03 40:17

Everything you're saying, I'm like touching, feeling my feeling in my face.

SPEAKER_05 40:20

So so like I I keep telling you, come into our community. You it's haileypromer.com forward slash member. We have a membership community. It's in circle. A lot of people are familiar with that platform now. We got the heck out of Facebook because of some issues with privacy and stuff like that with people. Um, but like ask us anything.

SPEAKER_03 40:38

Well, like, well, what about your I know you have like a few bestsellers. Is any of this stuff any of your books? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 40:45

I brought you, I think, seven of my books.

SPEAKER_03 40:46

Oh, wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 40:47

So wow. So yes. So I I I know.

SPEAKER_03 40:52

Is everything we talked about in your books? Yeah, because I want to go back to the box. Actually, I could just rewind and watch this again.

SPEAKER_05 40:57

They are, but but like genuinely, that's so when I went through my massive health crisis, right? I was so alone. And we like I'm old. We did not have like the internet and influencers and stuff like that, right? So I'm like in the library or meeting with doctors or pounding down doors. I was at like, I was at Brigham, I was at UCLA, I was at Mash Gen, I was at Harvard. Like, I was just like, who will talk to me and not think I'm absolutely crazy and help me unravel this autoimmune disorder that I have? Who will have these conversations to me? What does the science actually say? I was all over Europe looking and hunting and searching, and whether it was in Austria or Germany or wherever, right? It was lonely. It was scary. Like I lost part of my right kidney function. The option was to get my spleen removed and go on Ivy care chemotherapeutics. I was on 60 to 80 milligrams of prednisone every day. Oh my God. Yeah. So, like, so my whole thing is I don't want people to be without resource. Doesn't mean I have all the answers. Right. But I have so no problem saying, I don't know, but let's get you to somebody. I just got uh one of our community members into this a stem cell trial while they'll receive stem cells for free. Um yeah, there was an angel donor that gave um enough treatment for 16 individuals. And so one of my community members, she's not a client or anything, but like she's in our community and we started talking about stuff, and she's non-med responsive in the to rheumatoid, um, her rheumatoid factors are through the roof. And I'm like, you know, hey, why don't you talk to Dr. March and Carissa and Dr. You know, let's see if this is this is a good idea. Um we so we offer labs, like we don't do any markup, we're not like a lab company. I literally just say, why don't you go to Quest? Here's my requisite, have at it. I I I just believe everybody should have an access to that.

SPEAKER_03 42:41

You're right. They should. What do you think of the full body MRIs?

SPEAKER_05 42:44

Um, like a PRNO scan or something like that.

SPEAKER_03 42:45

Yeah, like that. There's like I do a thing with Simon Med.

SPEAKER_05 42:48

Yeah, I don't think they're bad. I don't think they're bad. To find out just whatever. I don't think they're bad. Like I'm not afraid of data. So we run an we have a sheet which is annual labs. And I will tell you, in the annual labs, we run like CEA, CA125, like the cancer markers for breast, ovarian cancer. We run PSAs, we run specialized um uh prostate uh uh tissue antibody tests because I like I like data, right? So we put that in our annuals. I have gotten pushback with some of the docs that we've worked with over the years that say, gosh, you know, you're just looking for trouble. And I said, no, I'm looking for opportunity to get this person feeling incredible. Like we I have seen people with and you, you know, with massive diseases and cancers and cholesterol and heart disease just completely turn their lives around. Like I I have so much confidence in the human body that I'm not afraid.

SPEAKER_03 43:42

Well, yeah, I mean you're a living result of that.

SPEAKER_05 43:44

Yeah, but I had I just shake it off. Like it's better sometimes to bury your head in the sand. Um, but in our in our annual lab, like even the um Galilea right now, the Galleria, saying that wrong, um, it's like uh I had a client that came in, scratch that wasn't a client, community. member and there's just some things that he was talking about and I said hey why don't you run through he's got colon cancer like he had been in for a colonoscopy they said well there's some polyps we'll watch him let's recheck you in three years and I'm like why don't we actually just play science here and why don't we just like ask your blood what's going on and why don't we run these tests and you know I back to his doctor he went right and we said like what do you think about this and I will say in that situation the doctor was lovely. I mean lovely um that's not always the case people are very gaslit people I I I got super sick I got E. coli at a fabulous restaurant in downtown LA that I loved um and I go to UCLA like I have all my doc friends there they're so good to me right there was a doc that wasn't any he didn't know me I didn't know him he was a jerk and he said I can tell you don't have E. coli and I said well I have I go in the clinic and I'm at immunology we're immune suppressed like I need a HEP and I need an E. coli test he says I'm not I'm not doing it you don't look like you have it and I said well we're not gonna play psychic medicine today we're gonna play science and you're gonna run my labs and he said I'm you're not gonna tell me what to do and I said then you're fired like and they brought in somebody else I said you call my doc. Like she's lovely you say I love her to death she said run whatever she wants. I had E. coli like I if I weren't ballsy and onry and I really don't care like I like I love those that love me back right type thing I would have walked out of there just you know felt shameful felt needy felt you know like I was complaining about my health and and think you not have E.

SPEAKER_03 45:37

coli you had I had E. coli you said something earlier uh so the GLP1s that's bad.

SPEAKER_05 45:43

Man, they've

GLP1 Drugs And Fasting Pushback

SPEAKER_05 45:44

been around for a long first of all let's get it really clear there is zero peptides in those it is a GLP1 RA. It's an agonist it is not a GLP1. It is a synthetic manufactured molecule that sits in the receptor site and mimics just like plastics mimic your sex hormones it mimics a GLP1.

SPEAKER_03 46:04

So why they call it a peptide how can they get away with that?

SPEAKER_05 46:07

Many moons ago when they were first manufacturing it they were injecting peptides the problem is a peptide has a very short half-life in the body meaning the body breaks it up really fast right so our GLP1 which is produced in our body only lasts somewhere between two and four hours that's why I am a huge advocate for eating within 30 minutes of waking and eating every three to four hours. I am not a faster you know that about me at all. I have yet to find anybody get well and I always say you do it to your dog you're gonna lose your dog you do it to your child someone's gonna come take your kid away you do it to your best friend you're not gonna have a best friend very long don't do it to yourself.

SPEAKER_03 46:43

Eat right um well it's funny because I've you and I have been at the same seminar where another person gets up there and talks about fasting and how great it is.

SPEAKER_05 46:50

Yeah we used to like hey I've been around doing this a long time we used to call that an eating disorder and perpetuating that perpetuating that especially in young individuals is dangerous. And we are the only species if you did that try it to your dog like try like you know what I've decided I'm not gonna feed my dog anymore and we're gonna go run the track and we're gonna go because it's gonna produce some sort of enzyme that was a very isolated study by the way that everybody jumps onto I I could I don't want to be mean everybody's got their own path right um I'm not an advocate because I'm in clinical setting and I've got to get people like feeling well the whole dog analogy makes perfect sense. Or you've never tried to your kindergartner don't feed your kindergartner for 18 hours and tell me you don't have more physical emotional toxic hormonal stress than your darn kindergartner.

SPEAKER_03 47:33

You do right so no GLP ones what about the new one have you heard of that Retta?

SPEAKER_05 47:38

Yes well be a miracle yeah says Sue the people make it you're killing me with that yeah so one thing if you ever there's a couple great books so when I was in the pharmacology department at NSU it was I loved we had an um um ethics and research right course and this guy was phenomenal um and he talked about like 89% of science uh um is not replicable right that that 90% of the physicians on the science papers know nothing about it they're paid to be on it right so it's like they're presenting for these big pharma companies and they weren't anywhere in or involved in the study like over and over and over again. So you have to be very careful and also we need to be like realistic like we all just need to use common sense like nobody's deficient in that that's not why you're gaining weight right you are avoiding the what your body's trying to tell you is a problem.

Peptides NAD Data And Final CTA

SPEAKER_03 48:36

What about peptides in general do you like those?

SPEAKER_05 48:38

I do like peptides peptides are interesting. Yeah as long as they're truly a peptide as long as it's not been adulterated and as long as it's it's it's administered properly one of I mean there's a couple dead giveaways if you take it a pill it's probably been adulterated right because it's got to pass the gut stomach. So you got to mix it with the baristatic water type of deal or yeah so no so so injectable right so our so the only thing like our so even like with when we do um in our multi right we wrap it right with it we it's a chelated mineral and we wrap our uh vitamins with an amino acid so it can actually permeate into the gut. A lot of this it's a super expensive raw ingredient that a lot of people don't do but you're not gonna change an RBC zinc or an RBC magnesium in an actual client if you don't do that. So like I can't give you a multi and be like using a multi sound great at the it's like the cap is worth more than what's in the bottle. Right? Because so you have so you have to have those cofactors in order to actually engage with the body. What happens is peptides is a very short chain of amino acids derived at it it's like a it's like a protein snippet if you will um what do we do when we eat as soon as we put protein in our mouth what happens we starts to we masticate we chew it starts to dissolve it goes into our stomach acid is produced it starts to dissolve we've got to get that peptide into the bloodstream so either like sub Q is a really good our body with a very trace amount has a very strong response to it.

SPEAKER_03 50:08

So do you ever do you ever do peptides?

SPEAKER_05 50:09

I haven't done them yet I've done like everything what about NAD plus no killing you I love alphaic acid I I don't like this like so so maybe all my problems are digging so in general plus has there ever been is there anybody that's ever need does there anybody's ever needed NAD plus possibly like but like it should the world be going I need N A D plus no like um I you know I used to own an IV key massive IV chelation suite right for cardiovascular issues for heavy metal toxicity um one of my my the top cardiologists that was with me in that practice um again we were running scans we were running echoes we were running you know calcium scores we weren't just going magic magic magic how does it feel again I'm not saying that everybody has to do that but that is personalized medicine that's designer medicine not taking everything is not make a healthy body right now you know this is the second time I've interviewed you on this podcast I would like there to be a third and a fourth so anytime so if you're coming back through here I feel like because I know I know that we're wrapping up but my God you are unbelievable. Well the biggest thing is is like you should expect nothing less than feeling 100% 110%. Right.

SPEAKER_03 51:31

And just because how much do you sleep?

SPEAKER_05 51:33

Do you sleep get eight hours more or less you know I I I try to like I it and I I don't believe in this but like I can go balls to the wall on five or six like I mean tons of energy feel amazing again I look at my labs I test my pulse socks monitor your sleep you got one of these or whatever I don't I don't so you're gonna laugh I'm sensitive to EMF stuff. Oh yeah okay I don't even have a clock in my room so like no matter so I change time zones a ton no matter where I go I wake up at like five o'clock like and and what so it's awful for me is if I go to bed at one I wake up at five I go to bed at nine I wake up at five like my clock just kind of I someone said the other day you're one of those what's the when your feet hit the ground the devil says oh shit she's up like I don't I don't go I go right right right I want to give it let's give out the the stuff for your community for is haileypomory.com pomorenutrition.com yeah forward slash member okay come join me for 30 days like it's free download everything ask us a million questions get your labs run do whatever you want to do like just play along with us um we start everybody with a 10 day cleanse I cannot wait for you to do it it is life changing like you're gonna laugh yeah I like I can't wait because people are like I get these texts and they're like day one day two like you know like this is do I have do I have to do all my five shakes I'm full and I'm like yes you have to do all five shakes because you taper up to five shakes and then like day six so why didn't you have me do this before I feel amazing blah blah blah my belly might you know and I'm like right I mean if Robert Jr does it I'm in I'm in it's it's a it's a really cool kick start cleans up your palate cleans up your gut cleans up your liver it gets things moving so fast.

SPEAKER_03 53:12

Well thank you for being on my time. I mean I really do appreciate you you made a special trip out here and I'm I'm so excited I'm so glad you did.

SPEAKER_05 53:18

Absolutely always good to see you.

SPEAKER_03 53:19

Thank you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_05 53:20

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